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Is the phase1 a future classic?
- Thread starter chipz172
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not read the thread but i suppose that will help with what i say.
i'm a renault enthusiast, i always enjopy seeing an RS on the road, since driving a 172 i notice more and more, i doubt a ford fan will share the same enthusiasm, yet theres no denying be them rarer than alot of other fast hatchs they arent RARE as such. owners can get a little too protective and rose tint things...
they are more of a classic than the phase two arent they with them being older, raw, etc but the williams boys can come on here and say the same about the ph1.
but one mans classic id another mans shed, totally down to personal perception
i'm a renault enthusiast, i always enjopy seeing an RS on the road, since driving a 172 i notice more and more, i doubt a ford fan will share the same enthusiasm, yet theres no denying be them rarer than alot of other fast hatchs they arent RARE as such. owners can get a little too protective and rose tint things...
they are more of a classic than the phase two arent they with them being older, raw, etc but the williams boys can come on here and say the same about the ph1.
but one mans classic id another mans shed, totally down to personal perception
completely agree!!
Danith
ClioSport Club Member
MX5 ND2/220 Trophy
i think it will be. but not yet. one thing it is tho for sure is the best bang for buck on the used performance car market fo' shizzle. Leather seats, 2.0 170bhp, chunky styling, old school throttle cable and clunky gearbox for not a lot of ££££. Williams is a classic, but not these yet. Awaits the tirade of conflicting opinions and subsequent smartarse cliosport abuse! This is just my opinion. classics to me are 205s, 5gts, escort turbos, etc cos they're what I always wanted when I was learning to drive!
Clio 172 ph1
+1!
Although saying that, the same didn't work for the Peugeot 309 GTi (my last car!) - it's the ugly sister of the 205 and only real Pug fans are into them it seems...
If it becomes a classic it'll be a while before it does, for now it's just an amazing bargain ^_^
As for quantity, there are SO MANY 205s and Golfs, and they are regarded as modern classics, so no reason why that would stop the Clio from going the same way
I saw another ph1 172 on the road the other day and got really excited, ha, unfortunately we were driving up a dual carriageway in torrential rain so neither of us fancied a play really :S
Clio 172 ph1
Mine (with me in it, on the Nurburgring)
I do miss it, but the Clio is such fun, much faster and smoother! Haven't had a chance to test the handling yet mind...Edit: Sorry, completely off topic
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Probably
Evo 5 RS
I love mine to bits, but you need to look at it from a real perspective my lovelies
For a car to be a real classic it needs to have appeal. Just because the car itself is awesome to drive and puts a smile on your face doesn't mean it has classic appeal..or 'iconic' appeal ..
Looks: It's a Clio
Any mechanical engineering feet that made it ahead of it's time?: It's a clio
it's a clio
For a car to be a real classic it needs to have appeal. Just because the car itself is awesome to drive and puts a smile on your face doesn't mean it has classic appeal..or 'iconic' appeal ..
Looks: It's a Clio
Any mechanical engineering feet that made it ahead of it's time?: It's a clio
it's a clio
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I'm biased and hope that the 172 cup becomes more sought after. Being one of, if not the last car to be manufactured without ABS. OK, its hardly a drivers car in a real world. Maybe the blue will do it. Even though the silver ones are less common, I would say a blue cup would be preffered.
I am saying all this in the hope that the values pick up. If they go much less, I would probably keep it as an ornament when I get a new car.
I am saying all this in the hope that the values pick up. If they go much less, I would probably keep it as an ornament when I get a new car.
Nope the ph1 won't be. the trophy has the limited numbers and rep to become 1 an maybe the 172cup. All of peoples arguments like chavs owning them has all happened to rs turbos and 205's but there still classics now. Look at the escort cosworth 90% of owners are chavs. Lol
172 Ph1, Lupo GTI
Its good, i'll give it that but being a modern car it does not give that same buzz the older generation did. Its a fault of most modern cars so eventually the goalposts of what a classic is will somewhat have to be redefined. It treads no new ground but refines it. True classic = no, modern classic undoubtedly.
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Given enough time all the 1*2's will become classics.
Also why does everyone seem to assume that a car has to be a performance car to become a classic?
Also why does everyone seem to assume that a car has to be a performance car to become a classic?
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
A few more winters and we'll be auctioning the Cup's at Christies in London.
so you think the clio extreme could be a classic? lol
The inferno could be a classic case of what colour not to paint a car.
youre just not man enough to pull it off gal.
a yellow puma at that. you were half a step away from working at toni and guy. lol
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Yes, in 30-40 years just like the 2CV's, old mini's, Ford Anglia's etc are now....
To be a 'classic' you need to be the type of person that contines to keep a s**t,rotten,uneconomically viable car on the road due to love or which then rises in price because its one of few opposed to one of many.
Sierra cosworth 3 doors seem to be a good buy when I looked a little while ago. They used to be nearly 10k opposed to 3-4k for a sapphire. Now a sapphire demands around 5 and a 3 door about 7. There are many many Ford fans who seem to be pay silly money for that badge.
I used to work with a guy who did banger racing. He would be cheap mk1,mk2 escorts and go through several a season. He is kicking himself now as a poverty spec one makes fairly decent money now.
Sierra cosworth 3 doors seem to be a good buy when I looked a little while ago. They used to be nearly 10k opposed to 3-4k for a sapphire. Now a sapphire demands around 5 and a 3 door about 7. There are many many Ford fans who seem to be pay silly money for that badge.
I used to work with a guy who did banger racing. He would be cheap mk1,mk2 escorts and go through several a season. He is kicking himself now as a poverty spec one makes fairly decent money now.
think of the type of character and history of all those cars. now think of the clio extreme which has neither.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
ph1 FTMFW!!!!
realnumber 1
ClioSport Club Member
Doesn't matter, if you saw an extreme in 30 years time you would still deem it a classic. Albeit not a very nice/great one. Take the mk2 Ford Cortina for example. looked s**t, went s**t and had no character. Same with something like the Austin Allegro yet they're still classed as classics now. The "history" of them is something that comes with time!
think character...furthest car from mind is the old agro. altho did have an equipe back in the day, was pretty cool in an odd way.
also think ford prefect...character....anglia...none.
both classics due to their age.
mk1 granada, again no character compared to the likes of the mk1 capri. both still classics.
mk1 mini, classic....bmw mini....never going to be.
much like the ph1 172 imho
