197 Cup unveiled

[MarkCup]

Do any 172 cup owners think this is any good?

I like it a lot.

Spec dependant (escpecially the weight saving) could be tempted.

 

[Jay]

Fair play to Renault for making this. Looks like they have listened to people, wanting it in white / stripped etc.... Will be interesting to see how much weight it saves compared to a normal 197.

I must admit it's not one for me, I'm getting older and like all the comfy / fancy features.

 

[Fletcher]

I quite like it

 

[Graham Gooch]

I couldn't live without aircon. Once you've had it you'll never want to be without. Why be slightly uncomfortable for the sake of 0.01 of a second to 60!!

Lol I agree and I therefore slap myself. I've grown used to it now, last 3 cars having it and well I certainly wouldn't want to go without now.

 

[Chili Red]

Ha! You know you can't go back once you've had it .

 

[Ollie82.]

Unfortunately for me, there's just no way I could live with a 197 just now. I know the 182 is hardly the last word in grand touring, but I need an all rounder that's sweet on the motorway, as well as rapid and great fun on a windy road.

However, there's no denying that it can't do anyone any harm to have the option of a Cup.

I must have missed something here....Roy weren't you gettin the new CTR??
Is that all been cancelled?

 

[Graham Gooch]

Ha! You know you can't go back once you've had it .

I know, I'm weak I wanted to slap you on the bum bum though!

 

[MarkCup]

I've not used the aircon on the Omega once sincd I've had it.

You use it beacause you can more often than not. Not because you need to.

 

[ja.jack]

it said the esp is able ot be completey shut off. i tohught the standard 197 could also do this?

i also think white will be a cost option.

Incoherent with excitement? How very sad.

 

[Graham Gooch]

Aircon has more uses that cooling you though.

Very handy at clearing the screen and also when its raining and cold, stopping the car from fogging up.

 

[Ollie82.]

Im thinking white or blue but with the Speedline wheels done in white.....

 

[Ad]

I like that a lot, but as said, compared to the R27... it would have the be the R27.

The white does look awesome.

 

[Munson]

Unfortunately for me, there's just no way I could live with a 197 just now. I know the 182 is hardly the last word in grand touring, but I need an all rounder that's sweet on the motorway, as well as rapid and great fun on a windy road.

However, there's no denying that it can't do anyone any harm to have the option of a Cup.

I must have missed something here....Roy weren't you gettin the new CTR??
Is that all been cancelled?

I cancelled the CTR ages ago dude. My circumstances have changed somewhat. I may still get one but it won't be for another year at least. I'm living the good life in Europe just now, and don't really need a new car anymore

I'm also earning a fair bit more than I projected for this year. A 350z might be on the shopping list soon enough

 

[Ollie82.]

Ahh fair enough. Didn't know you had cancelled it, hence my confusion!

350Z is an educated choice. Why it is compared to the RX8 i'll never know.

 

[GazCB]

I like the wheels but how boring does it look? Apart from the wheels and the cooling vents, it looks like a regular clio

 

[Ollie82.]

To be honest i don't think the black wheels do it any favours.

 

[Chili Red]

I'm also earning a fair bit more than I projected for this year.

Oooh if you have spare money I can spend it for you

 

[Munson]

I'm also earning a fair bit more than I projected for this year.

Oooh if you have spare money I can spend it for you

I could spend it on you if you like? How much are we talking? :evil:

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'm suprized no one has addressed the issue of what the 'standard' Racing blue is going to look like.

Racing blue, matt black wheels, black wing mirrors and bump strips! Thats going to be a dogs dinner!

 

[Revels]

Oooh if you have spare money I can spend it for you

I could spend it on you if you like? How much are we talking? :evil:

£2.50 for a bottle of red?

 

[Munson]

Hence why white is likely to be a cost option. Chancers FFS!

 

[Revels]

I'm suprized no one has addressed the issue of what the 'standard' Racing blue is going to look like.

Racing blue, matt black wheels, black wing mirrors and bump strips! Thats going to be a dogs dinner!

Shite is the answer. They should make white wheels an option, too.

Thousands of 197 versions of Christopers going around!

 

[trailerparktrev]

Looks good, if the price is right. But I am glad I ordered the R27 - I had a feeling the Cup was going to be announced imminently as I was told that production on the R27 has been shifted forward by a month to get the 500 done and dusted and out of the factory.

 

[Marky_]

Sounds alright!

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'm suprized no one has addressed the issue of what the 'standard' Racing blue is going to look like.

Racing blue, matt black wheels, black wing mirrors and bump strips! Thats going to be a dogs dinner!

Thousands of 197 versions of Christopers going around!

Will they all be photograph wh*res too!


Only joking, love you really Chris mwah x

 

[Munson]

All the press shots will always have the Xenons blazing

 

[cat171]

^
So true, either that or it'll be on a track (or amybe both)

 

[Shindig]

i still like the look and shape of the old models, but it does have appeal for sure....

 

[Ollie82.]

I think i'd have it in white and then get those speedlines powdercoated in white as well....then it would look something like a stickerless cup racer.

Racing blue with white wheels would look good but as you rightly say, thats Christophers trick.

 

[Dansta]

looks shite. give me a R27 in white instead thanks. Front looks sooo bland, looks like a white 1.2 from the front.

 

[polarbert]

Looks like it's going proper lightweight though, the second to last pic even has fog-lights deleted. Be nice to have a proper lightweight hatch.

I doubt that. Its still got the f**king hundreds of airbags in them.


I think it looks pretty bad to be honest. I mean black door mirrors, black side strips. It just looks like a standard base clio III to me. For some reason it looks higher than an R27 as well.

 

[polarbert]

Oh and removing the key card and electric door mirrors :rofl: I'm sorry but when the time comes for me to remove the tiny electric motors that power the mirrors, I'll chop my fingers off.

Its a very useful feature thats just going to piss a lot of people off by not having it.

 

[Ollie82.]

Remember the 172 Cup though......less in it so it sits higher on its springs!

Looks like its the same case with this!

 

[Munson]

TBH polarbert I agree to an extent. All this seems like desperate weight saving because they know the enhine doesn't offer enough torque for the weight. Saying that, I can't complain as at least they are willing to try. However, a suggested low rent interior and no AC, in a car that apparently moveed the game on for comfort etc. seems a little pointless. It isn't a light car compared to older hatches, so this attempt at reducing mass almost seems a joke. I don't see them cutting weight from the R26 Megane. If anything they are increasing it with the new Lux stuff. Saying that, I can't honestly complain because they do appear to be trying. In reality though, perhaps they're just trying to fookin' sell some!

 

[Graham Gooch]

I think your thinking too much about this car.

I like Renaults approach, at least they are TRYING to make a heavy car lighter, certainly goes against leftfield for alot hot hatches that have been released.

 

[Munson]

I think that's pretty much what I said Luke TBH. I agree it's all good

 

[Graham Gooch]

I'd bet my last £10 that it will stunning in the metal....lol.

 

[Munson]

It will be. I already love the 197 and in white it will look stunning

 

[Graham Gooch]

I love the 197 too. Don't get the credit it deserves IMO More to do with Renault UK than Renault as a whole though I think.

 

[seb]

the fact is it will be fecking sexy time in your pants when it comes out with proper pictures.

I can't wait tbh. looks immense.