newbie with a clio cup race car

[BIGASH]

Thanks Ian i’ll get my thinking cap on!

 

[ian-speedy]

Thanks Ian i’ll get my thinking cap on!

You need this in your life so buy it

 

[ian-speedy]

My car is nearly ready for pembrey a week today , noticed a few clio's doing it so they are getting popular , see Andrew off here is doing it as well , good luck and will see you on the day.

will decide in the next few months if I'm going to keep mine , plan on doing Epynt in march with it and decide from there as I bought a WRC Impreza today , p/x'd my GTR for it so going to play with the big boys now lol

 

[BIGASH]

Best of luck for Pembrey Ian! Would be a real shame if you got rid of the Clio but you've certainly not had an easy time with it.

Impreza looks great, anymore details of it? Never really seen specs of wrc cars

 

[Chi]

Wow impreza looks like it's about to take off

 

[Andrewclio]

Cheers Ian, ye I finally took the plunge and entered lol doesn't look like the weather is going to be up to much tho!ha

Shame to hear your selling the clio, but what a car to replace it with! Looks stunning, I bet that's a flyer!!

 

[EVOgone]

What happened at Pembrey Ian?

 

[ian-speedy]

What didn't happen lol , misfire on the first stage , found water in the spark plug hole , loads of spins as it was so Slippy , then the rear drivers side bearing collapsed , changed it and it did it again which put us out of the rally , not the best of rallies but sh1t happens !
Andrew didn't fair much better but I'll let him tell you about it lol

 

[EVOgone]

What didn't happen lol , misfire on the first stage , found water in the spark plug hole , loads of spins as it was so Slippy , then the rear drivers side bearing collapsed , changed it and it did it again which put us out of the rally , not the best of rallies but sh1t happens !
Andrew didn't fair much better but I'll let him tell you about it lol

thats rallying...!

did the car handle funny before the bearing let go? Guess you running the std discs/bearing rather than the bigger cup racer ones?

 

[ian-speedy]

No I'm running the larger Laguna rear hubs , the pin must be bent to have the bearings go like that , the only problem now is the disc broke I don't have any spare so I'll have to fit the standard discs with the small bearings now , unless anyone has a disc ??

 

[BIGASH]

Nick at Puremotorsport has just made a kit to allow bigger rear bearings so if you are struggling to source spares then that's probably the best option. Sorry to hear about your bad luck Ian

 

[EVOgone]

No I'm running the larger Laguna rear hubs , the pin must be bent to have the bearings go like that , the only problem now is the disc broke I don't have any spare so I'll have to fit the standard discs with the small bearings now , unless anyone has a disc ??

Very strange.... I have put std discs on and the car feels like to rear wheel steers.!!! very strange. They are new Mintex not Renault ones so maybe its that as everyone says to use OEM ones, strange as they are new but it feels terrible and i have the washers on the right way. One point was that the washers needed for the Cup Laguna hubs was different to the one for the std discs. Did you you the right washer?

 

[ian-speedy]

It's the washer that was on the car when I bought it , and have been on for the last 3 years with me , so I can safely say they are the right ones lol , as I have said , I think the stub axle is bent when I hit it that side in jersey and bent the axle.

i find it strange you say you find a difference between the Laguna hubs and standard clio discs with the smaller bearings , I ran the standard discs while I was finding what they used on the race cars , then ordering them in and I didn't notice any difference in how it drived

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

The scoob look awsome Ian.

 

[eastlmark]

I too had to swap to 172 discs and hubs due to a broken disc on the cup racer. Despite being told the discs would be a straight swap, the sealing washer at the rear of the hub on the originals was way to large and fowled the bearing so I had to fit the 172 items in order to get a free rotating wheel. I still have the hubs with good bearings (and the washers), but no discs or studs, if you are interested.

 

[coleman]

We need more pics of the Impreza.

 

[ian-speedy]

Uploaded a stage from the weekend last night , you can hear the wheel bearing making all kinds of noises , and the backend wanting to do its own thing lol , made it interesting to drive !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUn9uv5sR7w&feature=youtu.be

 

[ian-speedy]

don't have many at the mo , just a couple

 

[sam JFM]

Video looks a laugh!

Have you decided your getting rid of the clio?

 

[ian-speedy]

Video looks a laugh!

Have you decided your getting rid of the clio?

no not yet , I'm using the Clio on a rally in march so won't decide until then

 

[sam JFM]

no not yet , I'm using the Clio on a rally in march so won't decide until then

Which event have you got planned for March? I'm hoping to do an event around then

 

[ian-speedy]

Which event have you got planned for March? I'm hoping to do an event around then

I'll be doing the Tour of Epynt in the Clio , then the week after I'm doing West Cork in the WRC

 

[EVOgone]

Will be interesting what you find when looking at the hubs, if the they were bent etc? They are Laguna ones if you havent got the FAG part numbers just let me know.

 

[ian-speedy]

I can't go back to Laguna hubs now as one of my discs broke when the bearings collapsed , unless you know of any discs.
If not i'll buy a pair of genuine renault 172 rear discs and use them

 

[Porkie]

Love your new WRC Ian. Looking forward to seeing some more pics and videos of you playing (and I bet beating!) the big boys!

 

[EVOgone]

I can't go back to Laguna hubs now as one of my discs broke when the bearings collapsed , unless you know of any discs.
If not i'll buy a pair of genuine renault 172 rear discs and use them

Managed to find a brand new pair in France in the Alcon boxes myself as they are hard to source.

It supprised my how insecure the Hubs are on the bearing you would think its a nice secure fit.

 

[sam JFM]

Can you not get some discs made ian?

 

[MG cup]

I'm pretty sure the laguna mk1 rear setup with separate bearing/disk is what they were fitted with later on.

 

[EVOgone]

Discs are bespoke Alcons not renault ones. b**ch to get hold off.

 

[eastlmark]

Managed to find a brand new pair in France in the Alcon boxes myself as they are hard to source.

It supprised my how insecure the Hubs are on the bearing you would think its a nice secure fit.

One of mine broke and was going to get some made but would have needed to sell a few sets and decided there wouldn't be any demand as most have already switched to the 172 set up. Its a very simple disc so would not cost so much but would need to order 10 pairs or so. I gave up and fitted the 172 ones, no bearing issues as yet. Still possible I might get them done in the future but thought the wheel bearing was obsolete anyway, is that not the case?

 

[ian-speedy]

The bearing is from a 1999 Laguna , very easy to source , the discs aren't , do you want to sell your good disc ?

 

[EVOgone]

The bearing is from a 1999 Laguna , very easy to source , the discs aren't , do you want to sell your good disc ?

I can get some made from the guys who do the Alcons and have the drawing etc but was 120 quid each roughly.

 

[eastlmark]

The bearing is from a 1999 Laguna , very easy to source , the discs aren't , do you want to sell your good disc ?

Bare in mind the other disc failed due to corrosion/ fatigue (probably due to years of no use) at the point where the swept area meets the mounting ring and completely parted company -result that he hub still turned freely when the brakes were applied. The other side is likely to be in similar condition and is probably due to fail. £ 20 + carriage if you want to give it a go or £150 for the hubs c/w bearings as well.

 

[EVOgone]

Bare in mind the other disc failed due to corrosion/ fatigue (probably due to years of no use) at the point where the swept area meets the mounting ring and completely parted company -result that he hub still turned freely when the brakes were applied. The other side is likely to be in similar condition and is probably due to fail. £ 20 + carriage if you want to give it a go or £150 for the hubs c/w bearings as well.

Mine cracked there too.

 

[ian-speedy]

Thought i'd update where I am with the car , after the last rally in Pembrey the front panel was bent , so was the rad , although not leaking , so have cut the old cross member off and welded a new one I had on a spare shell , bought a new golf alloy rad and modified it to fit same as the last one , I have also bought the axle strengthening kit from Pure motorsport as I'm bending these really easily , and after the bearings collapsing thinking it was a damaged pin after hitting the wall in Jersey I have changed the stubs , and fitted genuine renault discs and bearings.

I'm doing Epynt next week so hoping for a good result on there , its going to be televised again for motors TV , then the week after i'm off to Ireland to do the West Cork rally , was planning on taking my WRC Impreza to that one but its not running right and we can't seem to find out what it is , so will have to go to a specialist to be done , no doubt i'll be ass raped with a bill !!

Should have kept it simple and stuck with the clio

 

[Chi]

post on the impreza thread. . Lots of clued up chaps on there

 

[Andrewclio]

Nice work on the rear beam Ian. I was planning on doing this too, they bend so easily!
Sorry to hear about the impreza, I wasn't able to get down pembrey as I had to work, I heard you where having a few issues, hope it isn't to costly!
I'm up epynt next Sunday but only spectating. Hopefully you'll get a dry day up there. Bloody freezing last year

 

[ian-speedy]

I did Bovington yesterday thinking the Impreza was fixed and it got worse , bloody thing.
There is nothing on my car that is on a standard one so doubt anyone has had the same issue , I think something electrical is breaking down , or a loom issue , hope its not a loom !

 

[Kenny.s]

Regards the WRC car, are you 22B.com? plenty guys on there that would be able to help or suggest where or who to speak to.

Rear discs for the cup racer/laguna hubs can be made from the standard 172 disc. I've got a pair that have had the bearing machined out. You've obviously got the facilities to do this quite easily. While it's maybe not as good as an Alcon disc it lets you keep the bigger bearing for very little cost.

 

[182Trophy]

Have you ever driven this on the road? I saw a car exactly like this in Bridgend a few months back see.