Coilover height for track

[imprezaworks]

After doing Oulton today im looking at raising the front, it sits too low. It isnt scrubbing on corners but i 'think' it would handle better ad although its not a fashion show, look better too. Also when measuring the height is it best to do it on the shock. The drivers side does need to be a touch higher. Appreciate any thoughts

 

[Greeny.]

As long as your not running Ktec coilovers you should be fine Seriously though, rake, front lower than the back imo.

 

[imprezaworks]

I'm running b14's, it does sit too low tbh. The back looks fine, I only want to adjust the front really. But a general good measurememt all round would be ace

 

[Greeny.]

I've always had mine to low at the back tbh, will try and set my BC's correctly when they arrive!

 

[imprezaworks]

I will measure the front and back tomo

 

[bloke]

get it corner weighted

 

[imprezaworks]

Any recommendations carl

 

[JamesBryan]

@Brett had his corner weighted at Blink Motorsport, Dan.

Seemed to have done a decent job. Although some people have had problems there so I've heard.

 

[imprezaworks]

Yeah I've heard that too. Corner weighting make a massive difference mate?

 

[JamesBryan]

I'd say so yeah.

Better balance under braking and cornering.

 

[imprezaworks]

Ok cool. Will see what Brett comes back with. Appreciate the reply mate

 

[imprezaworks]

Not the best pic but that's how my car sits

 

[bloke]

quick bit of reading...http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/understanding-corner-weights/
only the first one that came up on a search.

 

[imprezaworks]

And the clearance with 15's and 195/50 tyres

 

[NorthloopCup]

Corner weighting makes a huge difference to how the car drives mate.

 

[imprezaworks]

Excellent mate thanks

 

[NorthloopCup]

You want to aim to have the wishbones parallel with the ground as well ideally.

 

[imprezaworks]

Any recommendations up North (Liverpool)

 

[bloke]

Corner weighting makes a huge difference to how the car drives mate.

we used to run mki/ii escorts with paving slabs in the boot years ago:tongueclosed:

 

[NorthloopCup]

Any recommendations up North (Liverpool)

Afraid not mate. I do all my own work you see.

 

[imprezaworks]

Cheers anyway

 

[StuOwen86]

I was thinking of going to Blink myself as I'm not too far from you and don't know of anywhere local. Probably won't be before I go Oulton on Tuesday so will have to see how it goes then get it done and the see how it is when I go back on the 3rd February.

How was it today weather seemed decent.

 

[Brett]

Ok cool. Will see what Brett comes back with. Appreciate the reply mate :smile:

I had mine corner weighted before I tracked it. What I can say though is the car behaved brilliantly, a guy who races a Clio in tintops also took it out and said it was a well sorted car.

I'd recommend it overall definitely.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Def need to get it corner weighted, all this measuring malarky is a complete waste of time. My car sits all over the place (wonky), but that doesn't matter.

 

[imprezaworks]

I was thinking of going to Blink myself as I'm not too far from you and don't know of anywhere local. Probably won't be before I go Oulton on Tuesday so will have to see how it goes then get it done and the see how it is when I go back on the 3rd February.

How was it today weather seemed decent.

Was lucky with the weather, how's it looking for Tuesday?

 

[imprezaworks]

I had mine corner weighted before I tracked it. What I can say though is the car behaved brilliantly, a guy who races a Clio in tintops also took it out and said it was a well sorted car.

I'd recommend it overall definitely.

Thanks for the reply. How much did they charge mate?

 

[StuOwen86]

Looking ok for Tuesday lol but don't believe the weather man.

 

[imprezaworks]

Fingers crossed it will be fine mate. Enjoy the day

 

[TarkMalbot]

I understand that getting the corner weights as good as possible by increasing or decreasing the preload and that keeping the wishbones parallel is best for the roll centre etc but what height from wheel the arch does this usually end up at or as a base to get started. I have adjustable coil overs but don't know what height to set it at as a starting point.

 

[imprezaworks]

That's pretty much what I'm after too. From what is plain to read is that if you get it corner weighted for me it becomes useless if you have a passenger which I allways do, bar when I'm out for a run on my own at weekends etc.

When I say useless I don't mean it quite like that if you know what you mean

 

[bloke]

chances are if you get your car corner weighted it will be better than it is now even with a passenger.

 

[JamesBryan]

Or just get them to add ballast weight to account for the weight of your average passenger when they do it.

 

[imprezaworks]

Ok cheers. I need to pay more attention when reading

 

[Tony Hunter]

But then if you are then being that picky, not all passengers weigh the same.
So don't start getting carried away with yourself, by going over technical.
When I do passenger laps, I don't alter the set up, once the car had the basics done it's fine.
Can still scare passengers with bad handling car :wink:

 

[imprezaworks]

Ha ha. Cheers tony

 

[-Jamie-]

That's pretty much what I'm after too. From what is plain to read is that if you get it corner weighted for me it becomes useless if you have a passenger which I allways do, bar when I'm out for a run on my own at weekends etc.

When I say useless I don't mean it quite like that if you know what you mean

You are not really going to notice it on the road, Corner weighting only really comes into its on on track, When you are on the limits and pushing the car hard. I went through several geo setups when i had my Fiesta on coil's and you did not really notice the difference that much on the road, On track it became a lot more apparent though

 

[imprezaworks]

Ok cheers. As its going to be a track only car it makes sense getting that done. Any idea on rough costs?

 

[Tony Hunter]

It can be very time consuming, up down, up down, wheels on off, on off etc etc. It's mainly all labour costs.

I agree, not too Important on the road, but if you don't get enough weight on the front and even, you have brake problems, ie snatching and wheel lock.
But what do I know.

 

[imprezaworks]

I'd go with whatever you suggest tbh

 

[Tony Hunter]

Get a height that is sensible, not too high, not too low, make sure you have some rake on it (back slightly higher than the front) then get it weighted. At least you will have a starting point. Get it corner weighted for two people if that's what you want, it won't upset the balance that much.

Happy days, go and enjoy.