172ff v rx-8 (231)

[BRUCEY]

my mate gets a rx-8 today, are they much quicker than mine, if i have a play will i get my arse handed to me?

 

[Gym thread]

yeh :approve:

 

[chetannathwani]

for sure man - my mate has got one and they are fast.

 

[chris_p]

which version? they're not much, if any faster! i do love them though, my next car for sure

 

[Merk]

ridiculously fast.

 

[CrippsCorner]

VS section anyone!? :star:

172 = 172bhp, 0-60 7.0, 1035kg

RX-8 = 227bhp, 0-60 6.2, 1394kg

The RX will have it. It weighs a fair bit more but almost a second quicker to 60.

 

[chetannathwani]

red line at 9k - power through out the whole range, he got the 231 and mean sounding exhaust.

Nice cars, but drink oil and very thirsty on petrol. he gets around 25mpg in "normal" driving!!!

 

[Ex-User (19928)]

^ More like 20mpg.

They are far from fast. One thing that does bemuse me is why people will post a thread asking for the result of something that they're going to do in the near future?

Why not just do it ffs..

 

[CrippsCorner]

I've heard they're s**t cars to be fair.

LOOOVE RX-7's though, my favourite jap car ever :approve:

 

[BRUCEY]

what about the 192? would there be much difference between mine and that?

 

[BRUCEY]

^ More like 20mpg.

They are far from fast. One thing that does bemuse me is why people will post a thread asking for the result of something that they're going to do in the near future?

Why not just do it ffs..

im ever so sorry

 

[Dooby]

clio is faster than the 192 and the 231 wont pull away till the top of third

 

[Gym thread]

rx8 will out handle and outperfom the clio, the 190ish version maybe not such a difference but look on the bright side you get 10-15 mpg more and your tax band is 2 or 3 lower

 

[Fletcher]

The RX8's are pretty quick, good old 1.3 wankel

 

[vtgrrrs]

Not much in it to be fair. I kept up with a 190 version (I guess it must have been that) in a lightly modded vts a few years back. If anything I was gaining which surprised me at the time.

A 182 would be faster than that version and about as fast (maybe faster?) than the 230 version although I never got a chance to try it.

 

[realnumber 1]

The 231 was as quick as a 350z which was as quick as a M3 round the top gear or fifth gear track if not both lol.
The clio wouldn't stand a chance against one lol.

 

[dan.taylor.1]

and who is it jsut said 182's actually run their so called figures, dont most the 172's run about 160 ish?

 

[vtgrrrs]

There's no way on earth a RX8 is as fast as an M3. The RX8's handle well but they weigh a hell of a lot more than a clio.

The Fiesta ST was about the same speed as the Focus ST round the 5th gear track. I know what the fastest car is in reality though!

 

[jmsonline]

Doubt theres much in it, down to the driver. Yeah its got 231bhp but it weighs 350kgs more! Uses oil like petrol and needs a tanker behind it!
Plus clio has more torque and bhp per tonne than either the 190 or 231!

 

[realnumber 1]

There's no way on earth a RX8 is as fast as an M3. The RX8's handle well but they weigh a hell of a lot more than a clio.

The Fiesta ST was about the same speed as the Focus ST round the 5th gear track. I know what the fastest car is in reality though!

Sorry you are wrong, and a fool if you think a 1*2 would be close.

Start from 6 min

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[len_beach]

In the corners, the RX8 would be gone but in a straight, a poorly driven RX-8 would be easy pickings.

My (midly modified- granted) 172 was quicker than my mates 230.

Although his nickname was Gay Tony so it may indicate that he's a Mincer and he can't drive!

 

[vtgrrrs]

Vid not available? Also, I don't need to 'believe' it when I've experienced it. Also, applying basic Maths (power to weight) and looking at performance figures the Clio would more than stand a chance.

Let's not forget that Top Gear reviews as entertaining as they are, are not without prejudice.

 

[jmsonline]

If you look at the lap times on their board.....
bmw m3 1:31.8
rx8 1:31.8
......focus rs 1:32.2

 

[realnumber 1]

If you look at the lap times on their board.....
bmw m3 1:31.8
rx8 1:31.8
......focus rs 1:32.2
Renault Clio Cup 1.33.8

 

[vtgrrrs]

Yeah, but a Focus ST got 1.34.9, a Civic type r 1.36.5! A Monaro got 133.5 for ffs!

Different 'Stigs' probably with different conditions to be fair. For example the Focus ST posted a slower time than the RS, yet was allegedly faster round the Nurburg.

As many have stated, there's probably next to nowt in it with the 230.

 

[MarkCup]

So, 2 seconds is pulled out by the Mazda over 2 miles!

Have you any idea how close the Clio would be for the first mile, or how insignificant any difference on the road would be?

They're heavy...based on the above but with the Clio at a correct 1,110 kgs, the power to weight is;

Clio 155 bhp per ton
RX8 163 bhp per ton

So long as you get someone in the Mazda who's happy to cane it to the limiter in every gear...it would just edge it, but the Clio is always going to be as good as stuck to its arse while it does it.

 

[Waitey]

So, 2 seconds is pulled out by the Mazda over 2 miles!

Have you any idea how close the Clio would be for the first mile, or how insignificant any difference on the road would be?

They're heavy...based on the above but with the Clio at a correct 1,110 kgs, the power to weight is;

Clio 155 bhp per ton
RX8 163 bhp per ton

So long as you get someone in the Mazda who's happy to cane it to the limiter in every gear...it would just edge it, but the Clio is always going to be as good as stuck to its arse while it does it.

+1 they aren't amazing. 190 ones aren't that fast at all. The 230's aren't supercars.

 

[cat171]

So, 2 seconds is pulled out by the Mazda over 2 miles!

Have you any idea how close the Clio would be for the first mile, or how insignificant any difference on the road would be?

They're heavy...based on the above but with the Clio at a correct 1,110 kgs, the power to weight is;

Clio 155 bhp per ton
RX8 163 bhp per ton

So long as you get someone in the Mazda who's happy to cane it to the limiter in every gear...it would just edge it, but the Clio is always going to be as good as stuck to its arse while it does it.

At last, some sense added to the thread ! :approve:

 

[sean_d]

A could beat me mates RX8 in me 172 if a wanted to, its an import so limited to 112 :rasp:

 

[chris_p]

i know what i'd prefer own lol, and its not french!

 

[ForceIndia]

Not much in it. The hi-power will pull very slightly. They handle well, but do roll a lot. I'd much rather have a 350z.

 

[RDH]

red line at 9k - power through out the whole range, he got the 231 and mean sounding exhaust.

Nice cars, but drink oil and very thirsty on petrol. he gets around 25mpg in "normal" driving!!!

No way. These things have absolutely no torque and there's nothing in the engine until about 5/6000 rpm

 

[chetannathwani]

ok ill give him a race (on a track) next week, see how it goes.

 

[Revels]

and you dont have a 172FF.

 

[chetannathwani]

good point, i can see why your an admin. allow this battle for the 172, your on your own.

 

[Revels]

I didnt mean you, I meant the OP.

 

[Si]

In the corners, the RX8 would be gone but in a straight, a poorly driven RX-8 would be easy pickings.

My (midly modified- granted) 172 was quicker than my mates 230.

Although his nickname was Gay Tony so it may indicate that he's a Mincer and he can't drive!

well said. in threads like this... although they are sometimes quite far fetched... people seem to forget that a lot of people can't really drive. lol. chances are if he's just bought it he wont be used to it and wont really wanna bin it so you'll have a good chance imo.

not that i condone racing. bad times.

 

[bill]

ridiculously fast.

lol

 

[R20 CWH]

driver skills will be massive in it and of course choice of road. straight line rx8 will pull away

 

[BRUCEY]

I didnt mean you, I meant the OP.

what u mean i dont have a 172ff?