172 cup vs ek9

[Pasty]

anyone ever had a go with an ek9? im off out with my mate this weekend he's just bought one and reckons it will destroy all?

 

[Christopher]

Rubbish. I'd know.

From a roll, the cup will pull. The 9's about 40lb ft down on the Cup... and torque talks.

From a standing start though, it'd be closer. Not bad for an N/A 1.6.

If he quotes the old "5.7secs 0-60" thing... that's timed from the Race Base car. Not the regular EK9.

Regular EK9's are high 6's to sixty. About the same as a Cup. I know which i'd rather have though, and it's not the brand that I currently drive. EK9's are awesome, awesome cars...

 

[Pasty]

Rubbish. I'd know.

From a roll, the cup will pull. The 9's about 40lb ft down on the Cup... and torque talks.

From a standing start though, it'd be closer. Not bad for an N/A 1.6.

If he quotes the old "5.7secs 0-60" thing... that's timed from the Race Base car. Not the regular EK9.

Regular EK9's are high 6's to sixty. About the same as a Cup. I know which i'd rather have though, and it's not the brand that I currently drive. EK9's are awesome, awesome cars...

I agree, it looks the b****cks! hes one for getting cars looking awesome so when he's finished with it im sure it will look even better.

all we have done so far is lower it (a lot) and test fit his new wheels. engine mods will come soon. Then I think it will be a seriously quick car!

couple of pics:

 

[Liambo-235]

That looks tidy already!

Not sure on the spoiler though, any more pictures of it?

 

[Fletcher]

Looks very clean.

 

[Pasty]

spoiler is VERY marmite. I didnt like it to start with, but its definately grown on me already. looks so mean coming down the road, its got a hell of a lot of presence. ill try and find some more pics

 

[Christopher]

I agree, it looks the b****cks! hes one for getting cars looking awesome so when he's finished with it im sure it will look even better.

all we have done so far is lower it (a lot) and test fit his new wheels. engine mods will come soon. Then I think it will be a seriously quick car!

couple of pics:

Your mate is clearly a hero.

Looks awesome!

 

[Gally]

More pics now! That could be mint! I think it's pulling the spoiler off easy!

Hero you say Turner? I agree!

 

[Pasty]

 

[Gally]

Suddenly the spoiler looks like an air brake!

 

[Pasty]

haha i wondered how long it would be before someone said that!

 

[Tobs]

lower the spoiler mate

mmmmmm love ek9s honda at its best

 

[mattjk]

About 7.9 to sixty with that stupid ironing board on the rear! get rid, will be doing no favours for fuel economy either!

 

[thesaint]

Hi guys,

New the forum....

I have just sold my Civic EK9 1998 on 86,000k - Needed some cash to start a new business. Ended up with an 01 Clio 172 on 46k miles to keep me going.

I have done about 200 miles in the clio thus far.

Honestly, the EK9 is a very different car, the noise levels are much higher and the suspension a little more harsh.

My EK9 has a stage one tune all HKS parts, and was running 6.1 to 60. So it's clearly a bit quicker than the clio.

Also never had a problem with the Honda in 3 years of owning it.

I have inherited lots of issues with my new Clio, which is going to renault at the weekend.

Handling wise the EK9 is IMHO the best handling FF car in the world, better than the DC2 - which I know lots of people rate as the best FF handling car out there.

I do like the mod cons though, which an EK9 wont have as standard.

The clio's ride is much easier on the spine and the ear drums!

Very different cars IMO.

Thanks
Simon

 

[thesaint]

PS

Your friends black EK looks the business, maybe drop the spolier a tad! But looks in great shape for a '98!

Let us know what you think of it when he's finished...

 

[superbenji88]

I hear many people say its a good car. But can you really get a better performance car for the pound than a 172?

 

[Cli*****_on]

Will be very little between it. In the corners the LSD on the ek should help quite a bit though.

 

[.Ben.]

 

[The Boosh!]

Id have an ek9 type R race base B over my 182 anyday. If insurance wasn't an issue and parts wern't so expensive

Really do love them

 

[Cli*****_on]

Yep, LSD only on the type r.

 

[Ian_182]

Great looking car and very clean for a 98

 

[Hixle]

Amazing cars. My mate is currently in the process of importing one too.

 

[Glenn182Trophy]

i owned a 2000 plate ek9 rx and i would say its a better car than the cup all round but its double the price and older so you could buy 2 clios for a decent ek9 and i doubt there will be much difference in performance on the road between the 2.the spoiler on your mates ek looks like the origonal on brackets i would personaly put it back to standard and theres one big problem with the ek as standard its a bit snap happy

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Much prefer the Ek9 and imo i reckon it would be a little bit quicker driven under the right conditions on track

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Yep, LSD only on the type r.

And JDM Ep3

 

[Pasty]

i owned a 2000 plate ek9 rx and i would say its a better car than the cup all round but its double the price and older so you could buy 2 clios for a decent ek9 and i doubt there will be much difference in performance on the road between the 2.the spoiler on your mates ek looks like the origonal on brackets i would personaly put it back to standard and theres one big problem with the ek as standard its a bit snap happy

what do you mean snap happy?

 

[Dan R]

I really do wish the 0-60 thing would just be scrapped cos it means absolutely nothing. I mean how often do u actually race from a standstill and even if u do how many times do u think youll actually achieve the figure thats given for the car. Most wont cos u need a pretty much perfect start!! and im not talking about reno figures im talking about the likes of evo mag etc that abuse the car to get their figures.
A true test is the one that most will do which is along the lines of 30-100/120mph.
0.5 secs quicker in the real world is none existant

 

[Thewitt]

Am I the only one that prefers the original wheels???

 

[inferno182cup]

Torque? when has a clio ever had any Torque!? thats the problem they have!!

 

[Pasty]

Torque? when has a clio ever had any Torque!? thats the problem they have!!

they have lots compared to this when its not on vtec!

 

[Glenn182Trophy]

Pasty Re: 172 cup vs ek9
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what do you mean snap happy?

i mean the back end is a bit twitchy on the limit with not a lot of feed back when they go.i never span mine when i had it but ive got 3 other mates with them and all have said the same unlike my dc2 which had a lot more feed back on the limit

 

[Glenn182Trophy]

oh and i prefer the origonal wheels compared to those even though i changed mine for volk te37

 

[inferno182cup]

how much do you class as lots then Pasty?

 

[iarno]

I've had a little play with a 172 cup and there's nothing in it tbh.
I had a Williams before my EK and imo, the EK handles better and is certainly more fun to drive which is quite a statement!

 

[mr bognor]

Am I the only one that prefers the original wheels???

+ 1

 

[gaz44]

I really do wish the 0-60 thing would just be scrapped cos it means absolutely nothing. I mean how often do u actually race from a standstill and even if u do how many times do u think youll actually achieve the figure thats given for the car. Most wont cos u need a pretty much perfect start!! and im not talking about reno figures im talking about the likes of evo mag etc that abuse the car to get their figures.
A true test is the one that most will do which is along the lines of 30-100/120mph.
0.5 secs quicker in the real world is none existant

Hear ya!

 

[Pasty]

how much do you class as lots then Pasty?

i dont know figures, but i do know that the clio feels like its got much more grunt low down in the revs, and overtaking quickly at motorway speeds (65-85 mph) feels easier in the clio and doesnt feel like you have to change down a gear.

 

[GeeUK]

Hello guys....

Any old timers remember me?

Used to have a 1.2 16v Clio on a Y plate. Lots of tasteful mods. Then moved to a 275hp Starlet turbo.

Well now I have an EK9 too

No way I can really fault the car, except for the relative low torque in stock form. However, I have changed to a B18C engine from an Integra which is a straight swap.

Due to the increased displacement is picks up a lot faster now and is easier to driver. I can not directly compare to a 172 though, as I never ended up owning one.

You can view any pictures and see my progress since I bought it back in January at my blog: http://project-touge.blogspot.com

 

[ForceIndia]

They do nothing for me. Nothing. I'd rather have a DC2 all day.

 

[GeeUK]

They do nothing for me. Nothing. I'd rather have a DC2 all day.

Educated analysis due to experience of them both or just fancy the look of the DC2 over the EK9?