Tuning advice cams ,itb or rs2/sm inlet

[basket491]

hi guys just looking for some advice really and see what people's opinions are whilst I rarely post on here I have ran a trophy last year sold my stage 2 Megane and now decided for another 182

Trying to decide which route to take with regards to tuning I 100% want to stay away from turbo or supercharge so my options are

Itb I do love the idea of it's although it's a lot of money and second hand sets rarely Come up for sale

I have been looking at the sm2 inlet from turkey which is a basic copy of the rs2 isn't it ? What's people's experiences with these ?

Upgrading the cams ? Yet again not overly expensive. It have read stories of people not being able to run cat 428s with the rs2 inlet which I think If I went for cams would eventually happen plus has anyone ran piper cams before ?

I will soon do a build thread when I get time
I've done most the standard modifications to the car eg induction mapped exhaust system
And stripped the car out with a cage and running two recaro pole positions along with suspension upgrades

Just trying to find the best value for money with performances

Thanks

 

[imprezaworks]

@bloke

 

[bloke]

sm inlet 201bhp with standard cams on a phase 1, sm inlet on 172 cup with standard cams 195bhp.

 

[imprezaworks]

Do that then

 

[Fletcher]

I am in the same boat as you. I also don't want boost for my 172. I did want a RS2, but now think I will end up going down the ITB route and very much like the look of PMS itb kit.

 

[basket491]

Thanks for the info @bloke what's your opinion of the sm inlet ? The seller has said in eBay he can do it for £480 posted just like how simple it is to fit am I correct in saying you don't need to run a cable throttle like you repulsive with itbs

I think if money was no object I would go down the itb route but can't justify chucking that much money at them just looking for the best value for money basically

 

[Mikeyjp]

i thought the RS2 was making a come back

 

[imprezaworks]

£480 is a bargain imo. What's the rs2 price £1000 ish?

 

[bloke]

Thanks for the info @bloke what's your opinion of the sm inlet ? The seller has said in eBay he can do it for £480 posted just like how simple it is to fit am I correct in saying you don't need to run a cable throttle like you repulsive with itbs

I think if money was no object I would go down the itb route but can't justify chucking that much money at them just looking for the best value for money basically

it's not bad to fit, done a few now and got a couple more to fit as well. couple of little things to sort as you go along but nothing major. who you getting to map it for you?

i thought the RS2 was making a come back

it is apparently, but just keeps getting delayed. to be honest i think they've missed the boat though, for the price of the sm and results so far i think they will lose a lot of sales to the sm now.

 

[basket491]

I'll get Chris at Efi to map it mate doesn't seem like a major job to fit who have you used to map it mate ?

Do you still have to redrill any holes as the eBay seller has assured me you don't anymore and it's a direct fit to the 182 ?

Have you ran any with cams Aswell ?


I think at nearly half the price of the rs2 it's a no brainier yes the rs2 does look better but as long as the sm does the job

 

[bloke]

had both mapped by chris. no drilling anything. did mine first on standard cams and then threw a set of cams in.

 

[basket491]

Oh good to hear will be making the right choice then


Spot on think I'll order it now.

What cams did you use and how noticeable were they ?

 

[bloke]

colombo & bariani, had them in another engine so pinched them. although gains on the graph were negligible could be felt more when driving.

you fitting yourself?

 

[basket491]

Ok and no issues at all

Will be me and a friend who is very knowledgable with clios

 

[Drakec]

I was one of the first people to get the sm inlet my car made 186bhp with a sports cat nothing else modded on rs tunings rollers. £450 is a right deal i paid £850 for mine.

 

[imprezaworks]

Anyone got a link

 

[Jekyll]

And pics of it fitted?

 

[bloke]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152017357467?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

[imprezaworks]

Thought it was £480?

 

[basket491]

He's actually put it up yesterday it was £509 plus delivery and then he said £480 delivered if invoice through PayPal


Did you have to reroute the battery or could you use a smaller filter ?

 

[basket491]

If go on the 1sold yesterday it does show £510

 

[bloke]

fits with standard battery.

 

[basket491]

Ok cheers do you have to run a actual cable for the throttle aswell noticed on that pic it has a cable throttle ?

 

[imprezaworks]

I have messaged the seller, was curious about him being interested in a group buy. Carl have txt you mate

 

[imprezaworks]

Ok cheers do you have to run a actual cable for the throttle aswell noticed on that pic it has a cable throttle ?

That's a phase 1 isn't it

 

[basket491]

I've messaged him saying I'll take one for £480 hopefully I still can before everybody buys one now

 

[basket491]

That's a phase 1 isn't it

Thought that just after I put the message on

 

[bloke]

Ok cheers do you have to run a actual cable for the throttle aswell noticed on that pic it has a cable throttle ?

nope, mine is phase 1. if you're interested i can do a drive in drive out on them, you drop the car to me and pick it up with it fitted and mapped by chris.

 

[ADS_V6]

1 was one of the 1st along with @Drakec ,too purchase this and the inlet was classed as s**t by people on here and the other forum.So i bought a used rs2 and after seeing the results and cost of the sm inlet.Its a nobrainer,really unimpressed with rs2,sorry await the hate brigade.If their on ebay for 500 their a steal.

 

[bloke]

1 was one of the 1st along with @Drakec ,too purchase this and the inlet was classed as s**t by people on here and the other forum.So i bought a used rs2 and after seeing the results and cost of the sm inlet.Its a nobrainer,really unimpressed with rs2,sorry await the hate brigade.If their on ebay for 500 their a steal.

still gutted for you over the whole episode with this!!

 

[ADS_V6]

still gutted for you over the whole episode with this!!

Ive moved on but never again Carl also you have to spend 200 on engine mounts,you have too run it on a certain pipercross filter otherwise rs2 wont work lmfao.I was debating selling it but i think i will get sod all for it @bloke

 

[bloke]

Ive moved on but never again Carl also you have to spend 200 on engine mounts,you have too run it on a certain pipercross filter otherwise rs2 wont work lmfao.I was debating selling it but i think i will get sod all for it @bloke

sell the rs2?

 

[ADS_V6]

sell the rs2?

Yep

 

[Mariusz]

I have messaged the seller, was curious about him being interested in a group buy. Carl have txt you mate

Interested in one of these and would be all over a group buy, just don't tell the OH :tonguewink:

 

[bloke]

thing is you'd have to replace it with something or would you jst go back to standard inlet?

 

[basket491]

Hopefully he can make more on a group buy as Looks like only 2 left

 

[Mariusz]

Ive moved on but never again Carl also you have to spend 200 on engine mounts,you have too run it on a certain pipercross filter otherwise rs2 wont work lmfao.I was debating selling it but i think i will get sod all for it @bloke

Can you run the SM inlet on standard mounts? What about the filter, does it have to be a particular manufacturer?

 

[ADS_V6]

Can you run the SM inlet on standard mounts? What about the filter, does it have to be a particular manufacturer?

Standard mounts any filter

 

[ADS_V6]

thing is you'd have to replace it with something or would you jst go back to standard inlet?

Standard yep,what about the smaller rad.Ill pm you Carl thanks you been a big help over past months :up:

 

[bloke]

no problem.