Ride height - what is best?

LIL B · Sep 2, 2011

Can you even get a dual perch design with extended top mounts on the RS fail boat?

pure-motorsport · Sep 2, 2011

Colin Satchell, Sandy Brown and myself work very closely on all things Clio but we all work for ourselves. Sandy is an absolute genious with everything engine related (wait to see what he's cooking up in the F4R department with us) and Colin is a machinist/fabricator extrordinaire. We try not to go down the same route as everyone else with tuning and try to do something a little new and different.

Gouldy · Sep 2, 2011

i have been out in my 182 this afternoon. all i can say is; i cant wait till its been put back up and lowered about 30mm.
the ride is shocking.

seized coilovers FTL

Kam. · Sep 2, 2011

Colin did a great job on my Pug 205

Are you going to be selling a clio version of his gearlevers then?

Sir_Dave · Sep 2, 2011

pure-motorsport said:
Colin Satchell, Sandy Brown and myself work very closely on all things Clio but we all work for ourselves. Sandy is an absolute genious with everything engine related (wait to see what he's cooking up in the F4R department with us) and Colin is a machinist/fabricator extrordinaire. We try not to go down the same route as everyone else with tuning and try to do something a little new and different.

I'll keep an eye on your site then

To be honest, something new in the F4R arena is always nice to hear about, especially from someone who can get over 200ATW from a 1.6 ....

Oh, & the fact that you are all Cornish (like the best of us, cough cough) is all the merrier.

Kam. · Sep 2, 2011

Sir_Dave said:
especially from someone who can get over 200ATW from a 1.6 ....

Thats not the clever part. Sandy has the knack for getting broad powerbands and making them very driveable at the same time.

pure-motorsport · Sep 2, 2011

There may well be a gearlinkage in the pipeline, also some engine mounts and rose jointed adjustable front wishbone package.
I think it must be something to do with not getting out very much that makes us Cornish produce such good stuff!!

Sir_Dave · Sep 2, 2011

Kam Racing said:
Thats not the clever part. Sandy has the knack for getting broad powerbands and making them very driveable at the same time.

Oh yus, very fond of his work tbh.

Although to be fair, im quite old, so remember the days of his 309, & a certain TWT & Batfink on the PGAC

Jonny1*2 · Sep 2, 2011

Gouldy said:
Wrong, as that car stands there the car has 15mm front rake. (the car does not sit like this any more)

you are making the common mistake of measuring rake from arch gap.

Wasn't going off the arch gap, which is way to low regardless. Car just looks too flat to me

Sam@BTM said:
Remember kids, if your car is too low the dampers wont have enough travel and the result is poor handling.

What sam said

shiftspark · Sep 2, 2011

pure-motorsport said:
Colin Satchell, Sandy Brown and myself work very closely on all things Clio but we all work for ourselves. Sandy is an absolute genious with everything engine related (wait to see what he's cooking up in the F4R department with us) and Colin is a machinist/fabricator extrordinaire. We try not to go down the same route as everyone else with tuning and try to do something a little new and different.

Looking forward to all this ! Did you have some bike boddies for the F4R at some point on your site ?

Gouldy · Sep 2, 2011

Jonny1*2 said:
Wasn't going off the arch gap

yes you were,

This has ran its course, im out.

Gally · Sep 2, 2011

Sir_Dave said:
Yup.

FYI, these are three of the best handling FWD cars ever:

I always knew which way this thread would go.

.Kev. · Sep 2, 2011

Sir_Dave said:
Yup.

FYI, these are three of the best handling FWD cars ever:

Amen......

Jonny1*2 · Sep 2, 2011

Amem indeed :approve:

Gouldy said:
yes you were,

This has ran its course, im out.

Of course I was sweetheart.

DannyR · Sep 2, 2011

Gouldy said:
that has about 30 to 40mm front rake. spacers wont help the handling in any way and if anything the weight of the spacers will be increasing rotating mass. equal arch gaps are a common misconception of "rake" unfortunately thats not how it works.

car looks nice though, im assuming you are going for looks rather than handling with this set up?

You have VMaxx coil overs so I would say you can't criticise!

Equal arch gaps weren't planned just how it was, it's slightly different all the way around. I've used this setup on all three clios I've had, two predominantly track cars. Handled very well.

Coby. · Sep 2, 2011

I need to adjust mine again as I've just replaced the fronts and will be going back down to 15"s tomorrow

I won't be going too low but definitely aiming for a bit of stance.

Coby. · Sep 2, 2011

How mine used to sit last time it was on 15's

Will be going a touch higher this time though I think but keeping a bit of rake.

Fletcher · Sep 2, 2011

Coby. said:
The Fletchbus is sitting nicely I think

Hai

Still surprised on how it looks- handles, as I haven't touched the H&R's since completely stripping it out!

Coby. · Sep 2, 2011

I'll be aiming for a similar stance as I'm sticking some OZ F1's on 15" on tomorrow

p@blo · Sep 2, 2011

pure-motorsport said:
There may well be a gearlinkage in the pipeline, also some engine mounts and rose jointed adjustable front wishbone package.
I think it must be something to do with not getting out very much that makes us Cornish produce such good stuff!!

Absolutely champion, will keep an eye out for updates

Fletcher · Sep 2, 2011

Coby. said:
I'll be aiming for a similar stance as I'm sticking some OZ F1's on 15" on tomorrow

Good stuff mate.

p@blo · Sep 2, 2011

Fletcher said:
Hai

Still surprised on how it looks- handles, as I haven't touched the H&R's since completely stripping it out!

About how I want mine Fletch. Was running the rear as as high as the spring collars would allow

Have the spacers now though so can lift it a little.

Fletcher · Sep 2, 2011

p@blo said:
About how I want mine Fletch. Was running the rear as as high as the spring collars would allow

Have the spacers now though so can lift it a little.

What suspension are you running Paul?

p@blo · Sep 2, 2011

ASTs dude. Fronts feel a little soft (fine for road use mind) & rears have a quirky size spring so there's not sufficient pre-load at the minute. Rear spacers arrived today & upping the fronts 20n too, so hopefully it'll feel a little sharper next time out

chrispy.clio · Sep 3, 2011

I set my suspension up the proper way years ago

Needs doing again really as the car is much lighter.

But if you want your car to handle well then you have to set up the coilover heights with where the weight is been placed.

Jonny1*2 · Sep 3, 2011

^^ nice :approve: did the team know you were using it

chrispy.clio · Sep 3, 2011

Jonny1*2 said:
^^ nice :approve: did the team know you were using it

Well I used to set up the supension up on the race cars so I'm sure they didn't mind me doing it on my car

Really good equipment but rather expensive!

sideways danny · Sep 3, 2011

I miss having corner weighting facilities. Definitely on my list of things to buy quite soon

chrispy.clio · Sep 4, 2011

sideways danny said:
I miss having corner weighting facilities. Definitely on my list of things to buy quite soon

Ooo do it dan, then I can show you how to use them whilst setting up my car

Jamie86 · Sep 5, 2011

Sam@BTM said:
Remember kids, if your car is too low the dampers wont have enough travel and the result is poor handling.

Exactly what I was getting at early on but someone decide to quote flawed aeronatuical aerodynamics theory instead.

sideways danny · Sep 9, 2011

chrispy.clio said:
Ooo do it dan, then I can show you how to use them whilst setting up my car

LOL, I was corner weighting cars for crash testing 12 years ago

used to do our own stuff out of hours too

chrispy.clio · Sep 9, 2011

sideways danny said:
LOL, I was corner weighting cars for crash testing 12 years ago used to do our own stuff out of hours too

Haha I was playing with action man and toy cars 12 years ago! So you win!

Let me know if you get corner weighting scales in the next 6months and you can do my car

edewer · Sep 9, 2011

Had my old one corner weighted and definitely felt a LOT more poised and responsive. Once the current one's how I want it I'll be getting it set up again

ripp · Sep 28, 2011

many in this thread have far greater experience with coilovers than poor me, could some of you guys take a look here http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?603059-What-s-your-ride-height-GAZ-GHA-owners and perhaps tell me what's wrong?
thx!

Cueball · Jan 5, 2012

I have 60mm front and 45mm back with 16 inch wheels and 205 45 tyres and mine scrapes the arches and I even ripped the black protective covering around the arches to try and help and it's helped quite abit but still rubs on a sharp bend. going to higher them when abit of nice weather arrives.

Cueball · Jan 5, 2012

or just get 195's as I need new tyres anyway!

Fred@BTM · Jan 5, 2012

we've got fancy intercomp wireless corner weight scales, cool toy to have

stephen chadwick · Jan 5, 2012

does anyone move/ modify the bumper brackets to stop them rubbing on corners? yet to see anyone tub there arches like allot do on driftworks

ripp · Jan 5, 2012

yes I had a go at this
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?602639-Bumper-bracket-mod-DIY
hope will be useful to you

stephen chadwick · Jan 5, 2012

ripp said:
yes I had a go at this
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?602639-Bumper-bracket-mod-DIY
hope will be useful to you

thanks bud il do that soon

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