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Unpleasant experience with AVO teething



  Clio MK2
Friends,
I am a friend from Taiwan. I ordered AVO shocks from the UK. The front springs are 550 IBS and the rear springs are 300 IBS. After that, the nightmare began:
1. In February this year, after the installation was completed, there was a huge noise, but there were potholes, bridge cracks, and protrusions! The shock absorbers are badly infected on the body. After dismantling, it was found that it was an AVO product error (gasket and retaining bolt), which caused the head of the pillow ball to be damaged correctly. So I contacted the AVO team and they offered to send a set. Give it to me, I look forward to it.
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2. Due to a construction error, the screw on the rear shock broke, so I ordered two more rear shocks.

3. After 20 days, the product will be sent to Taiwan. At the same time, in order to ensure that the weight of the spring water will not be too high, I purchased spring water with 450 IBS in the front and 250 IBS in the rear. However, to my delight, I received a set of used pillow dome tops, full of rust spots, but the gaskets and bolts are indeed new, I still have the product on the car, tested it and it still emits a huge noise Noise, after dismantling the solution this time, a bad situation was found, the front shock absorber leaked oil in the lower right corner. (As of today, every inspection has found oil stains)
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3. Later, another gentleman from the AVO team contacted me and he asked me: "Can you send us a picture of the side of your car? The car is on flat ground. This will help us see the riding condition of the car The height at which it is.
Also, can you tell us if you get the knocking noise over small bumps at low speeds below 10 mph?
and dips in the road (potholes and seams in the tarmac .)
from Manhattan or just one?".

Here's my reply:
I don't find this a hassle, and I'm glad you guys are willing to fix it. I can provide some results of my tests.
1. I once made a mark on the damper rod and looped it around. The markers didn't touch the bottom, but there was still sound.
2. Rear shock, the sound comes from the rebound, but I adjusted the rear damping to the softest, the spring has almost no preload, keep it in the slack state, the knock sound is still the same.

3. I'm here to answer your question:
Whether it's a pothole or a strip on the bridge, the front shock absorber is obviously compressed, but I have 75mm of travel to absorb it, but it can't be absorbed effectively, and it still produces induction sound. I'd really like to know if there is something wrong with your suspension?

4. This is my current height
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Ultimately, the reason I no longer want to reply to these messages, AVO told me:
The dampers supplied to you should be MTS40SA 80-12, for track and competition. From the standard ride height - 40mm, the distance from the bottom of the strut to the underside of the top clamp should be 45.7cm, we just need to check the front if you can please check and we can see if we have sent you an order the correct damper.
If they measure 50.7cm, they are standard ride height dampers and will run too long at the lower ride height, requiring you to raise the ride height to see if that improves.
drive and noise. My only external concern is the 7" long, 17.8 cm, and 550lb springs that come with the kit.


There are a few reasons I'm ditching this AVO RT8004 Coilover:
1. A set of shocks should be delivered to the customer without issue and can't Wrong kit provided.
2. Modifying the shock absorber, in addition to increasing the performance of the vehicle, it is also a great thing to lower the chassis and improve the handling. According to the current height, the current installation already complies with AVO's standard "from the standard ride height -40mm". Too high is really incongruous.
3. If the shock absorber is disassembled, it is found that it meets the specification of "standard height from the ground - 40mm, and the measurement should be 45.7cm", but the sound still cannot be resolved, and I don't have other shock absorbers to use.
4. If the damper is disassembled and the specifications are found to be wrong, it proves again that there is a big problem with the quality control of the AVO-damper.

I feel very tired during this time. This is my personal experience. I hope everyone will be very cautious when choosing AVO Coilover. I think there is a big problem with their quality control.
 

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  Clio MK2
朋友們
我是一個來自台灣的朋友。我從英國訂了AVO避震器。前彈簧為550 IBS,後彈簧為300 IBS。之後,噩夢就開始了:
1、今年2月,安裝完成後,出現巨大噪音,但那坑洼、橋縫、突起!減震器嚴重嚴重地感染在身體上。拆解後發現是AVO產品錯誤(墊片和留置螺栓) ,導致枕球頭部正確損壞。於是我聯繫了AVO團隊,他們表示願意寄出一套產品。給我吧,我期待著。
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2.由於施工偏差,後避震器上的螺絲斷了,所以我又訂購了兩個後避震。

3. 20天后,產品將被發送到台灣。同時,為了保證泉水重量不會太高,我又購買了前450 IBS、後250 IBS的泉水。不過,讓我高興的是,我收到了一套了二手枕球頂,滿是鏽斑,但是墊片和螺栓確實是新的,我仍然把產品放在車上,經過測試,它仍然發出巨大的噪音,拆掉這次解還發現了一個不好的情況,前減震器,右下角竟然漏油了。(直到今天,每次檢查都發現有油漬)
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3.後來,AVO團隊的另一位先生聯繫了我,他問我:“你可以給我們發一張你的車第三個的照片嗎?車在平地上。這樣可以幫助我們看到行駛情況汽車所在的地方的高度。
另外,您能否告訴我們,在時速低於10英里/小時的低速行駛中,小顛簸處是否會出現敲擊聲?
並在道路上傾斜(經常坪上的坑洞和接縫。)
是來自礦業還是只是一條?”。

這是我的回复:
我不覺得這很麻煩,我很高興你們願意解決這個問題。我可以提供一些我的測試結果。
1.我曾經在反彈桿上做了一個記號,然後把它繞了一圈。標記沒有突破底部,但仍然有聲音。
2.後避震,聲音來自於回彈,但我把後部的震動調到最軟,彈簧幾乎沒有預載,保持在減震狀態,敲擊聲還是一樣。

3.我在這裡回答您的問題:
無論是坑洼還是橋上的條狀,前面的避震都是明顯壓縮的,但是我有75毫米的行程來吸收一下,但是並不能有效吸收,還是會產生感應聲。我真的很想知道你的避震是否有問題?

4.這是我現在的身高
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最終,我不想回复這些信息的原因,AVO 告訴我:
提供給您的地震器應該是MTS40SA 80- 12,用於此次和競賽。距標準旋轉高度-40毫米,從支架底部到頂部夾頭下側的距離應為45.7厘米,我們只需要檢查前部如果您可以的話,請檢查一下,我們可以看看是否已向您發送了正確的響應器。
如果它們的尺寸為50.7厘米,則它們是標準的移動高度加速度器,並且在較低的移動高度下運行會提高太長,因此要求您的移動高度以查看是否有所改善。
驅動和噪音。我唯一關心的外部問題是隨套件提供的7英寸長、17.8厘米和550磅的彈簧


我放棄這套AVO RT8004 Coilover有幾個原因:
1、設置擴展器交付給客戶應該沒有問題,並且不能提供有錯誤的套件。
2、支架支撐器,除了增加車輛性能外,降低成型、提高操縱性也是一件很棒的事情。根據目前的高度,目前的安裝已經符合AVO的標準“底座標準行駛高度-40mm”。高了確實不協調。
3、如果拆掉了減震器,發現符合“標準離地高度-40mm,測量應為45.7cm”的規格,但聲音仍然無法解決,而且我沒有其他減震器可以使用。
4、如果將阻尼器拆開發現規格有誤,則再次證明AVO-阻尼器的質量控制存在很大問題。

這段時間我感覺很累。這是我的個人經歷。希望大家在選擇AVO避震的時候要非常穩定。我認為他們的質量控制有很大的問題。

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  Clio MK2
朋友們
我是一個來自台灣的朋友。我從英國訂購了 AVO 避震器。前彈簧為 550 IBS,後彈簧為 300 IBS。之後,噩夢就開始了:
1、今年2月,安裝完成後,出現巨大噪音,但那坑洼、橋縫、突起!減震器嚴重嚴重地感染在身體上。拆解後發現是AVO產品錯誤(墊片和留置螺栓) ,導致枕球頭部正確損壞。於是我聯繫了AVO團隊,他們表示願意寄出一套產品。給我吧,我期待著。
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2.由於施工失誤,後避震器上的螺絲斷了,所以我又訂購了兩個後避震。

3. 20天后,產品將被發送到台灣。同時,為了保證泉水重量不會太高,我又購買了前450 IBS、後250 IBS的泉水。不過,讓我高興的是,我收到了一套了二手枕球頂,滿是鏽斑,但墊片和螺栓確實是新的,我仍然把產品放在車上,經過測試,它仍然發出巨大的噪音,拆掉這次解還發現了一個不好的情況,前減震器,右下角竟然漏油了。(截至今天,每次檢查都發現有油漬)
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3. 後來,AVO團隊的另一位先生聯繫了我,他問我:“你可以給我們發一張你的車側面的照片嗎?車在平地上。這樣可以幫助我們看到騎行情況汽車所在的高度。
另外,您能否告訴我們,在時速低於 10 英里/小時的低速行駛中,小顛簸處是否會出現敲擊聲?
並在道路上傾斜(停機坪上的坑洞和接縫。)
是從曼哈頓還是只是一條?”。

這是我的回复:
我不覺得這很麻煩,我很高興你們願意解決這個問題。我可以提供一些我的測試結果。
1. 我曾經在阻尼桿上做了一個記號,然後把它繞了一圈。標記沒有觸及底部,但仍然有聲音。
2.後避震,聲音來自於回彈,但我把後部的阻尼調到最軟,彈簧幾乎沒有預載,保持在鬆弛狀態,敲擊聲還是一樣。

3.我在這裡回答你的問題:
無論是坑洼還是橋上的條狀,前面的避震都是明顯壓縮的,但是我有75mm的行程來吸收一下,但是並不能有效吸收,還是會產生感應聲。我真的很想知道你的避震是否有問題?

4.這是我現在的身高
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最終,我不再想回复這些信息的原因,AVO告訴我:
提供給您的阻尼器應該是 MTS40SA 80- 12,用於賽道和競賽。距標準行駛高度 -40 毫米,從支柱底部到頂部夾頭下側的距離應為 45.7 厘米,我們只需要檢查前部如果您可以的話,請檢查一下,我們可以看看是否已向您發送了訂購的正確阻尼器。
如果它們的尺寸為 50.7 厘米,則它們是標準行駛高度阻尼器,並且在較低行駛高度下運行會太長,因此要求您提高行駛高度以查看是否有所改善。
驅動和噪音。我唯一關心的外部問題是隨套件提供的7英寸長、17.8厘米和550磅的彈簧


我放棄這套AVO RT8004 Coilover有幾個原因:
1、一套減震器交付給客戶應該沒有問題,並且不能提供錯誤的套件。
2、改裝減震器,除了增加車輛性能外,降低底盤、提高操控性也是一件很棒的事情。根據目前的高度,目前的安裝已經符合AVO的標準“距標準行駛高度-40mm”。太高了確實不協調。
3、如果拆開減震器,發現符合“標準離地高度-40mm,測量應為45.7cm”的規格,但聲音仍然無法解決,而且我沒有其他減震器可以使用。
4、如果將阻尼器拆開發現規格有誤,則再次證明AVO-阻尼器的質量控制存在很大問題。

這段時間我感覺很累。這是我的個人經歷。希望大家在選擇AVO Coilover時要非常謹慎。我認為他們的質量控制有很大問題。

This is the pillow ball top seat they sent me, also damaged
 

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hopgop1

ClioSport Club Member
I'm not a coilover expert by any means, but have you fitted coilovers with very high spring weights to a car for road use, or even worse, city driving? Can't help but feel you'd be better with standard suspension, or the standard bilstein b14s.
 

RSRowe

ClioSport Club Member
  Megane 250 Cup
Those spring rates are pretty high, but you would expect the product to be delivered actually built right.

Unfortunately your experience seems pretty typical with what’s happening to Megane owners of recent, since Avo started offering coilovers kits for them.

As above, a set of Bilsteins would probably suit you better if it’s just road driving.
 
  Clio 172
Thanks @RSRowe considering I was looking at AVO for my dedicated track car knocking / noise is no issue but weeping oil (assuming failed seals) is a big issue.
Trying to find a step up from Spax but not as expensive as AST
 
  Clio MK2
這些彈簧剛度相當高,但您會期望交付的產品實際上是正確構建的。

不幸的是,自從 Avo 開始為他們提供避震套件以來,您的經歷似乎與最近梅甘娜車主所發生的情況非常典型。

如上所述,如果只是公路駕駛,一套 Bilstein 可能更適合您。
摩托車可以輕鬆地通過我所經過的道路。巨大的聲音會讓駕駛員產生誤判,因為減震器吸收震動的能力不夠。我最後換成了425IBS和250IBS,也發出了很大的噪音,所以我認為Coilover製造了問題,他們的態度,他們沒有積極處理。
 
  Clio MK2
這些彈簧剛度相當高,但您會期望交付的產品實際上是正確構建的。

不幸的是,自從 Avo 開始為他們提供避震套件以來,您的經歷似乎與最近梅甘娜車主所發生的情況非常典型。

如上所述,如果只是公路駕駛,一套 Bilstein 可能更適合您。
摩托車可以輕鬆地通過我所經過的道路。巨大的聲音會讓駕駛員產生誤判,因為減震器吸收震動的能力不夠。我最後換成了425IBS和250IBS,也發出了很大的噪音,所以我認為Coilover製造了問題,他們的態度,他們沒有積極處理。
Motorcycles can easily pass the roads I pass by. The huge sound will make the driver misjudge, because the shock absorber does not absorb the shock enough. I finally changed to 425IBS and 250IBS, which also made a loud noise, so I think Coilover created the problem, their attitude, they didn't actively deal with it.
 
  Clio MK2
Thanks @RSRowe considering I was looking at AVO for my dedicated track car knocking / noise is no issue but weeping oil (assuming failed seals) is a big issue.
Trying to find a step up from Spax but not as expensive as AST
Those spring rates are pretty high, but you would expect the product to be delivered actually built right.

Unfortunately your experience seems pretty typical with what’s happening to Megane owners of recent, since Avo started offering coilovers kits for them.

As above, a set of Bilsteins would probably suit you better if it’s just road driving.
In the end, I changed to 425IBS and 250IBS, and it made a huge noise. I adjusted the damping to the softest, but the problem was not solved, so I think it is Coilover that caused the problem, and their attitude is not to actively deal with it.
 


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