RACELAND COILOVER DISCUSSION THREAD

[clio carl]

righto, firstly this is a thread for the people who bought these to discuss how they, fit, preform, and general experiences with them on and off track, i dont and i repeat dont want the whole ktec/pricing discussed here, any comments will be deleted.

me n da are fitting mine on sunday, which im quite looking forward to, saw jon r's vids on track and they preformed with no glitches apart from scrubbing at the front, so clearly with these, u have to be careful how low u go on the fronts from what has alredy been said. would be nice to establish how low u can go without scrubbing ect.

 

[Fred@BTM]

cheap and cheerful, not much more to say LOL

 

[clio carl]

hi fred. just wanting a straight thread about these as ive bought some myself and would like to hear what peoples thoughts are, driveability wise and ride heights ect.
i noticed from your comments on another thread about not messing with them untill they have settled, think you said 1000 miles or something?

 

[Focie]

I would of said these sound like more of a budget street based coilover myself, if they are that soft as someone said do they offer much performance gain on track, surely people would be looking for something stiffer if they are going on track??

Only my opinion from what others have observed don't have a set myself,

 

[W111ALG]

I am going to hopefully get them fitted this weekend as well. Going to roughly set them up camber wise on my garage floor, let them, settle in over few weeks then get them professionally set up. Can't wait, never had coilovers before only aftermarket springs...

 

[domjolly]

got mine the other day will be fitted next wednesday! havent had a set of cilovers before! but this look good value for money at the moment! some well made kit for the price

 

[clio carl]

agreed, i have seen both vmaxx and ktec, and these are just as well built, and imho a quality product, which i was pleasantly suprised at when i opened the box, they dont appear cheap and cheerfull to me.
i would have thought these would be ideal for fast road use and occasional track use, agreed not for the hardcore trackday person.
the inbetweeners if you pardon the pun.

 

[domjolly]

agreed, i have seen both vmaxx and ktec, and these are just as well built, and imho a quality product, which i was pleasantly suprised at when i opened the box, they dont appear cheap and cheerfull to me.
i would have thought these would be ideal for fast road use and occasional track use, agreed not for the hardcore trackday person.
the inbetweeners if you pardon the pun.

+1 and people like me that just want it lowered lol more than 30mm

 

[clio carl]

lol, yes for those who dont like tractors

 

[Ellzy]

Yeah same, all I want to do is slamm my car lol

 

[Focie]

I have had a budget set of coilovers before and i have to say i was pleasantly surprised with the quality they certainly have come down in price and seem well made, it will be interesting to see what these coilovers are like over time, things like corrosion of the threads etc

 

[domjolly]

so what size alloys have you all got then with these i have 16" and not sure how much to lower actually im not sure how much to use these lol

 

[clio carl]

indeed it will be interesting to see how these develop over time.

i have 16's prima racing alloys with toyo proxies 45 profile .

whilst im fitting them on sun i will try and get some measurements to post up as to what they are lowered to, then once they settle i will raise or lower them depending on scrubbing ect, n make a final measurement..

 

[Ellzy]

so what size alloys have you all got then with these i have 16" and not sure how much to lower actually im not sure how much to use these lol

Yeah same, standard 16's

 

[MarkCup]

Just to be clear, jon_r's scrubbing wasn't down to ride height, it was down to cornering load.

So the height at which they don't scrub for some, will probably mean they will for others...all depending on driving style?

I was impressed by jon being impressed by them and his car looked OK on track. Certainly I've seen more firmly setup Clios, but as a road/track compromise I think they're a great option and cannot be ignored for the price.

I'm need new springs/dampers all round judging by how wallowy my Cup was - full RRP from Renault or a set of these from K-Tec? Easy decision.

 

[clio carl]

thanks for clearing that up mate, from what i have read and seen so far i couldnt agree with you more, and if jon is impressed then its all good feedback really, and only comfirms what you see when you open the box.

 

[domjolly]

well im just going to slap my rears as low as psossible level the front to the rears and leave them for a while!! what would be helpful is if someone could tell me exactly how to lowere theme and make them higher as well as camber adjust the fronts (not that ill touch this just want to know where not to touch lol) !!! im a complete noob lol

 

[clio carl]

they have two black rings that the spanners fit onto, they lower/higher them, n when you have them right they lock together, the camber is ajusted by the large bolt that attaches them to the hubs, its recessed into a u shaped lip.
the rears are easy peasy, just wind the thread in for lower,out for higher.

personally i want to keep the nose down stance, as i think it suits the cars and is as they were intended.

 

[domjolly]

yeah thats the look ill be going for just gonna let them bed in for while first! get my decat fitted same day hopefully so car will be a bit of an animal lol

 

[clio carl]

lol

 

[Clart]

i've done 1000 miles on mine, and no complaints whatsoever. Bargain of the year!

 

[clio carl]

cool, how do they make the car handle in comparisom to what you had before, and roughly what ride height do u have

 

[Clart]

back all the way down, fronts half way. Handling is improved no question. They're a bit stiffer but not unbearable.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4055/4347971515_de6c732dcd_b.jpg

 

[Andyman]

How do they compare in terms of handling against uprated shocks and springs? A lot better or much the same?

Are they TUV approved, British kite marked up, ie safe lol ?

 

[domjolly]

rear looks perfect i think ill be going lower in front over time though

 

[clio carl]

How do they compare in terms of handling against uprated shocks and springs? A lot better or much the same?

Are they TUV approved, British kite marked up, ie safe lol ?

yep tuv cert, backed by ktec warranty.

 

[clio carl]

rear looks perfect i think ill be going lower in front over time though

+1 they look the buisiness, i really really cant wait till sun lol.

 

[Da]

You sure they're TUV approved Carl? I thought that was an expensive option for the manufacturer?

 

[clio carl]

from reading the origional thread yes, as thats what the origional supplier stated in the ebay ad. bondie mentions it in the first post

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=479216

 

[Da]

Ok, good to hear

 

[clio carl]

Ok, good to hear

we will know very soon lol

 

[jon_r]

For reference, as a road setup I'm running +5mm at the back and then 52 'threads' at the front, which was raised to 58 on track. I know that's not massively technical, but I've found that height works well. Count from bottom thread up to lower adjustable ring to get your 52 ( you'll see what I mean ). This is with Cup offset wheels and 195 tyres.

Sorry on my phone with bad man flu, that's all I'm typing!

 

[clio carl]

thanks for that jon, it will come in very usefull, hope u get well soon

 

[wallis_172]

do these allow much body roll? or is it quite stiff?

 

[Jat_172cup]

Mine are great, really pleased with them. I have been on them for about 800 miles now so will be returning to Fred when he is available to set them up accordingly.

Stiffer than standard suspension but not unbareable, but feel alot more grounded, corners alot better.

I have mine with 17's on at the moment, back is all the way down I think, and fronts are probs halfway+, I only get a little rub when cornering a roundabout hard, and when I am 3 up in the back and go over a stupidly sized pothole.

Hopefully getting 16/15"s soon so this will improve greatly, and looks wise I will let you decide for yourself

Taken only a couple of days after having them fitted, so they have settled a bit more now.

 

[Fred@BTM]

just to add and be fair though, mr jon "untechnical" r could make a robin reliant look good round track

 

[clio carl]

just to add and be fair though, mr jon "untechnical" r could make a robin reliant look good round track

hehe, i know what u mean fred

 

[clio carl]

Mine are great, really pleased with them. I have been on them for about 800 miles now so will be returning to Fred when he is available to set them up accordingly.

Stiffer than standard suspension but not unbareable, but feel alot more grounded, corners alot better.

I have mine with 17's on at the moment, back is all the way down I think, and fronts are probs halfway+, I only get a little rub when cornering a roundabout hard, and when I am 3 up in the back and go over a stupidly sized pothole.

Hopefully getting 16/15"s soon so this will improve greatly, and looks wise I will let you decide for yourself

they look awesome mate, the height looks perfect to me, they settle pretty quickly by the souns of it

 

[Djw John]

They feel like the softest aftermarket suspension I've ever owned and considering how low the car is it doesnt feel much stiffer than standard. I supoose for normal road driving thats actually a good thing. Would be great if tehy were damping adjustable for when you want to be more 'spirited' but of course they then wouldn't be as cheap.

One thing I would say to people to watch out for is to not go this low

(Closest one)

As they driveshafts have rubbed against the chassis when cornering so I'll need to raise it, planned to anyway so no great hardship!

 

[clio carl]

yeah will watch out for that mate thanks, just want her lower than she is at the mo, plus my rear shocks are leaking so i needed them anyway.