Project 172!

[DannyR]

Thought of this project a year or so back, then cam on here two days after I started and saw someone had done it!

Anyway, Its a K Reg Valver shell with rust galore, Engine wasn't working had willy wheels and got it for £250! Not bad in my opinion!

Currently the engine is fixed into position but hanging also, we also managed to fit PAS unlike the previous one on here

Now just got to do all the little things I can while engine is out (belts, clutch, engine bay shine!)

Running on Omex 600 unit, but just standard at the moment, then throttle bodies or turbo, still deciding! And maybe something else but thats secret at the moment

 

[edde]

How come you went for it over say the VAG 1.8 T or the Honda K20 or the F4RT ie the turbo engine form the Lagun/Megan/Velsatis etc.

 

[anthrogan]

wow...


i wish i knew enough about engines so i could do my own transplants...

 

[terribleclio]

looks good mate. As said why choose the 172 lump over a 1.8t vag lump? Was it cost wise of the vag lump?

 

[DannyR]

I was talking to the bloke thats helping me do this and he thought how the hell do you fit a 1.8t VAG lump?

How do you and any pics of it been done?

Basically thought about this ages ago and thought it shouldn't be too hard, plus can look standard too if ya get me?!

Didn't realise they done a Turbo version of this lump!?

 

[edde]

I was talking to the bloke thats helping me do this and he thought how the hell do you fit a 1.8t VAG lump?

How do you and any pics of it been done?

Didn't realise they done a Turbo version of this lump!?

Yep its slightly differen engine same series as such though.

A member on here has done one and there another 2 been done.

You need to realy cut the subframe a bit and weld some box section to get the strenght back if your using the 6 speed box the 5 speeds fine the VAGs a bit smaller in theory just the bigger box being the issue.

 

[DannyR]

Cool, I'll have a look for VAG conversion!

 

[DUB_MD]

here's some picture of a 1.8 vag engine in a mk2 don't know if this with help

 

[DannyR]

Thats great cheers

Just seen the Valver one also in a thread called Clio TT

Looks more room in the MK2. If I had the money maybe but 172 is good for now

 

[Rob's172]

good luck with this, keep us up2 date of how its goin

whish i had the know how and £££ to do this

 

[DannyR]

Wish I had the £££ too lol!

Will keep up to date!

 

[Ian_182]

172 engine will be a great replacement.
Maybe a TT one day

Matt black is the man to ask

ian

 

[Leeshez]

Looking good

 

[ollie]

Ace! Will be a bullet when its done

 

[MATT BLACK]

1.8 T engine is a doddle - you can run a specially designed DTA wiring loom to fit and run the injection / Turbo on the vehicle. Me and my mate ( Jordy ) have done both a 172 and a 1.8T conversion in my clio and the 1.8T engine was just as easy.

Heres a few of the several hundreds of pics i have

 

[MATT BLACK]

Spot on for having the balls to tackle the project btw - thumbs up

 

[Daniel]

That was my favourite Guise!!

 

[geesus69]

looking good mate i may have some questions for you if you dont mind as i am planning on doing the same, just looking for the right shell first and then will set about sourcing the engine

i assume you are using the omex because the engine has fbw throttle? (sorry cant see it clearly in the pics) i am going the other way and using cable throttle and using standard 172 decoded ecu pinned up to car loom

its wayneclio16v iirc who has done it already, i have asked him some questions about the conversion and he has been really helpful

how you finding mounting up the engine?

can i be cheeky and ask your email addy so i can bombard you with questions?

 

[DannyR]

djroberts@eapoc.net

I'm finding mountings really easy as basically the same.

Using Omex unit and Cable throttle as omex cant use FBW, just had cable one come through!

Also managed to run it with PAS unlike wayne.

Also the omex unit as its just plug and play basically and can't be arsed to pin it up, also easier when I TB it!


1.8 T Looks awesome! maybe i'll tyr that next lol! Good work anyway! nice sleeper i bet

 

[matty w]

what exhaust manifold you using mate?

 

[GeordieClioDriver]

That was my favourite Guise!!

Love that.. total sleeper! anywhere do that conversion? I wouldnt mind one :rasp:

 

[DannyR]

Engine went in last night, we are using the 172 standard manifold but cutting it becuase its way to short, and turning it into a 4-2-1 manifold that fits!

Pics soon

 

[SBV116]

How come you went for it over say the VAG 1.8 T or the Honda K20 or the F4RT ie the turbo engine form the Lagun/Megan/Velsatis etc.

edde, will you behave yourself with that honda engine!!!:rasp:

 

[DannyR]

Pics of the engine fitting snuggly into the engine bay

 

[Beaniemoo]

Brilliant Fella, coming along nicely very reassuring too as i'm about 1 stage behind you in doing exactly the same lol (we should start an owners club!). My clio's all stripped and I've just done clutch and belts on the 172 lump. in which way was the manifold too short I'm shopping for a 182 one at the mo.

 

[Final Maxim]

looking sweet dude, will keep my eye on this thread, love stuff like this

 

[geesus69]

well im about 10 stages behind everyone lol

although i pick up the valver on saturday so thats a start

djroberts - have you looked into the rear g'box mount? wayne said he had to have a custom one made up? but didnt say 'custom' in what way, ie longer, shorter etc

 

[steven.m]

nice project! wish I had the know how to do something like this as it would be a nice wee challenge. good luck!

 

[DannyR]

geesus - I read that two but mine was fine?! I also have PAS which he couldn't seem to do either :S

Got it all Plumbed up last night, no pics becuase they are basically the same!

Exhaust from 172 didn't come reach down enough to go under the car, but can make my own 4-2-1 now so not overly bothered

 

[geesus69]

sounds good mate i cant wait to get started

having trouble finding the right engine for the right price at the minute!

where did you source yours from if you dont mind me asking?

kept myself occupied by ordering some coilovers though

 

[DannyR]

Still looking into brakes and suspension,. but AVO Suspension looks best.

Engine was from eBay! £500 delivered!

 

[geesus69]

was that just the engine or gearbox, ecu etc included? what mileage has it done?

i looked at a few options but FK were within the budget for my suspension, not sure on brakes yet :S

 

[DannyR]

Just engine, 51 plate cup engine (15k apparently although has been storwed for 3 years)with ecu and loom although loom was cut, but i didnt need it anyway, I cut it to bits last night!

Where are you getting the FK's from?

 

[geesus69]

getting Fk's from 2modified

spoke to john there on msn and he did a price match for me from a cheaper site, top bloke too, didnt mind spending some time chatting about cars and stuff

what box are you using? how u working out the wiring?

sorry for all the questions mate, next i'll be shining a light in your eyes lol

 

[DannyR]

LOL!

Omex for wiring, expensive but s**t hot stuff and its plug and play basically!

Using standard valver box until it breaks, so 5-10 miles lol!

 

[geesus69]

ah yeh sorry you did say you were using omex, no such luxuries for me, on a bit of a tight budget :S

yeh wonder how long the valver box will last, surely thats why your rear g'box mount lines up ok? cos u are using the original box? wasnt wayne using a laguna box?

 

[DannyR]

Arr, that would be the reaosn then lol

I'm on a tight budget too but you only live once!

 

[FusionRS]

Awesome project mate. Was gonna do something similar with mine but ended up putting my TBd F7R in.

I have a 15k 182 engine for sale coincidentally, of anyone fancies some of the same!?!? Pm for details!!

 

[geesus69]

Awesome project mate. Was gonna do something similar with mine but ended up putting my TBd F7R in.

I have a 15k 182 engine for sale coincidentally, of anyone fancies some of the same!?!? Pm for details!!

does anyone know how much hassle it is to convert fbw throttle to cable? is it more hassle than its worth?

 

[FusionRS]

Not too sure mate i didnt really look into it that much. I noticed your in harrogate, im only over in York so if you fancy it give me a PM.

*sorry for thread hijack :$ *