New pure Motorsport race exhaust

Nyall · May 10, 2013

Need to start saving for one of these systems!

pure-motorsport said:
The video is decat with no centre silencer and it is really surprisingly quiet. Bonnet does shut with manifold on!!

Off topic, but I phoned you guys yesterday for a quote on doing cambelt/aux belt/air con delete on my Ph1. You said you'd phone back but never did.

pure-motorsport · May 10, 2013

Swede cup said:
Need....£1585 posted for the package, overtime here we go.

Nick, does the stated 80dB & 93dB for the pure fitment with cat no silencer take into account the manifold too?

Also what sort of engine tunes have you tested it on so far, Im not looking for exact figures. I.e 421 catcams, Jenvey ITB's, 120mm trumpets worthwhile mod over 182 manifold and race exhaust.

The noise readings are on a car with a 172 manifold, I would expect higher readings with the 4-2-1 manifold so a centre silencer would be a good idea although the system is so quiet I don't think anyone would have issues no matter what engine spec. This manifold and a 182 manifold is kind of a Fiat and Ferarri comparison so it will definitely give you good results on your engine but it has got to be treated as part of an engine package and not just a bolt on power upgrade.

pure-motorsport · May 10, 2013

Nyall said:
Need to start saving for one of these systems!

Off topic, but I phoned you guys yesterday for a quote on doing cambelt/aux belt/air con delete on my Ph1. You said you'd phone back but never did.

Hi Nyall,
Yes we did - twice - but your phone won't let us leave a message. Give us a ring on Monday as we have all the prices ready for you.

debussetti · May 10, 2013

Considered selling your Cat/Decats separately to the rest of the systems or are they not suitable for exhausts other than yours?

pure-motorsport · May 10, 2013

debussetti said:
Considered selling your Cat/Decats separately to the rest of the systems or are they not suitable for exhausts other than yours?

They only fit on ours

sonny172cup · May 10, 2013

Very tempted until I saw the price... looks good though

Tony Hunter · May 10, 2013

sonny172cup said:
Very tempted until I saw the price... looks good though

You pay for quality.

MG cup · May 10, 2013

pure-motorsport said:
The noise readings are on a car with a 172 manifold, I would expect higher readings with the 4-2-1 manifold so a centre silencer would be a good idea although the system is so quiet I don't think anyone would have issues no matter what engine spec. This manifold and a 182 manifold is kind of a Fiat and Ferarri comparison so it will definitely give you good results on your engine but it has got to be treated as part of an engine package and not just a bolt on power upgrade.

Okay perfect, I'll hold out a little while until you have more definitive dB levels with your manifold attached, Ideally I wouldn't want a silencer if I could get away with it for obvious reasons.

Yeah I understand you are doing it as part of an engine package which I like as nobody is pushing the barrier, with Sandy in toe I look forward to updates. I will have a wilder cam and pistons to take advantage of the manifold come time but can you see any potential flat spots or major power band changes with my current spec? Also I'm guessing its an equal length jobbie?

yeecup · May 10, 2013

Vid. http://youtu.be/6kSi13720co

pure-motorsport · May 10, 2013

Swede cup said:
Okay perfect, I'll hold out a little while until you have more definitive dB levels with your manifold attached, Ideally I wouldn't want a silencer if I could get away with it for obvious reasons.

Yeah I understand you are doing it as part of an engine package which I like as nobody is pushing the barrier, with Sandy in toe I look forward to updates. I will have a wilder cam and pistons to take advantage of the manifold come time but can you see any potential flat spots or major power band changes with my current spec? Also I'm guessing its an equal length jobbie?

It's been designed to work at low rpm,s so that we can produce good power low down and save spending thousands on expensive valvetrain. It has equal length pipes.
It would have an area of rpm that it works best but that will be dependent on the rest of your engine spec. It should work really well with anything that has a fairly lairy cam.

sonny172cup · May 10, 2013

Tony Hunter said:
You pay for quality.

I will drink to that

Budgie · May 10, 2013

Can only echo Dave's comments. I've loved seeing all the Peugeot engine stuff with Sandy.

Can't wait to see the Clio efforts! That'll redefine the limits of possibility.

MG cup · May 10, 2013

pure-motorsport said:
It's been designed to work at low rpm,s so that we can produce good power low down and save spending thousands on expensive valvetrain. It has equal length pipes.
It would have an area of rpm that it works best but that will be dependent on the rest of your engine spec. It should work really well with anything that has a fairly lairy cam.

Well that's 3-3.5k saved on an imminent rocker setup. Can't stop looking at the mani pictures......something else.

Keith185 · May 11, 2013

Beautiful piece, be interesting to see some graphs on a proper spec engine .... wheres Ian Speedy? xD I'd have to have it ceramic coated atleast to only try to prevent burning flesh lol

Does your strut brace clear it?

Fletcher · May 11, 2013

Danny_172 said:
I'm just jealous that i'm not allowed to get one lol.

Lol mate.

I would more than likely go for the decat/ no centre section system. I am not sure what I am going to do Mot time mind.

pure-motorsport · May 12, 2013

Keith185 said:
Beautiful piece, be interesting to see some graphs on a proper spec engine .... wheres Ian Speedy? xD I'd have to have it ceramic coated atleast to only try to prevent burning flesh lol

Does your strut brace clear it?

Yes it clears the strut brace.

Keith185 · May 12, 2013

pure-motorsport said:
Yes it clears the strut brace.

Awesome, thank you. Sorry if it was a silly question

pure-motorsport · May 12, 2013

Keith185 said:
Awesome, thank you. Sorry if it was a silly question

Not a silly question at all, I wish I had asked myself that same question after I spent hours mocking it up in plumbing pipe and finally getting the whole thing to fit and then realised I'd left the brace off and had to start all over again!

yeecup · May 12, 2013

pure-motorsport said:
Not a silly question at all, I wish I had asked myself that same question after I spent hours mocking it up in plumbing pipe and finally getting the whole thing to fit and then realised I'd left the brace off and had to start all over again!

Lol

Chip-mk1 · May 13, 2013

You've done well to get so much length into such a cramped bay without going too tight radius on the bends. Can imagine it took a fair while to sort out

SharkyUK · May 13, 2013

Ooh, I like the look of that.

Chip-mk1 · May 13, 2013

SharkyUK said:
Ooh, I like the look of that.

Is yours still at a point where a spec change is convenient?

pure-motorsport · May 13, 2013

Chip-mk1 said:
You've done well to get so much length into such a cramped bay without going too tight radius on the bends. Can imagine it took a fair while to sort out

A whole day really and lots of plastic bends! Anyone need some for a sink?!

SharkyUK · May 13, 2013

Chip-mk1 said:
Is yours still at a point where a spec change is convenient?

Yes mate, I believe it is. But I think this may be a little too much for a car that doesn't live on the track... but still. LOL!

Cup_Phil · May 13, 2013

Nick working with Colin and Sandy is the best news I've had in 3 years.
Coming from the 106 scene they work absolute magic!

Now get that pms-satch-shift launched! I sold my B&M shifter this morning to top up the funds for one haha!

yeecup · May 13, 2013

^^^^^^ tell us more!!

Korky · May 13, 2013

Keeping an aye on this, can't wait to see figures!

itsjamz · May 13, 2013

I'm waiting for the shifter. I just want a sneak peak. I'm holding on making something with the hope it'll be perfect. Havnt seen anything only been told about it

dmallett · May 13, 2013

So what's the gains from running this awesome looking manifold? I'm pretty simple minded and fancy knowing how it creates better performance?

Mr R. · May 13, 2013

Exhaust system looks epic, i just wouldn't want to cut my bumper to have one though.

Kentishlad · May 13, 2013

Was tempted by a milltek ......just been blown away by this wonder how it would sound with a pops and bangs map ......

MG cup · May 13, 2013

dmallett said:
So what's the gains from running this awesome looking manifold? I'm pretty simple minded and fancy knowing how it creates better performance?

Two words..... Pulse tuning.

MG cup · May 13, 2013

Kentishlad said:
Was tempted by a milltek ......just been blown away by this wonder how it would sound with a pops and bangs map ......

Poop

Meek_racing · May 13, 2013

You don't spend thousands of pounds on proper equipment like this to have a naff "pops n bangs" remap ffs!

Tony Hunter · May 13, 2013

Meek_racing said:
You don't spend thousands of pounds on proper equipment like this to have a naff "pops n bangs" remap ffs!

Aston Martin?

Fletcher · May 13, 2013

Kentishlad said:
Was tempted by a milltek ......just been blown away by this wonder how it would sound with a pops and bangs map ......

Not very good IMO.

SharkyUK · May 13, 2013

Kentishlad said:
Was tempted by a milltek ......just been blown away by this wonder how it would sound with a pops and bangs map ......

And I thought adding ketchup to my caviar was a poor show...

Joking aside, this looks like it might be something a bit special.

Fraser.J. · May 14, 2013

Top service to PMS. Just sorted me out with an epic deal on this exhaust and a couple of stud/nut kits (one for the boy with that shitey charged yellow shed)

Can't wait to get it all fitted for the trackdays I've got booked for Sunday and Monday!

Cheers guys looking forward to hearing it in action, will get a video of it and post it up in here

yeecup · May 14, 2013

you lucky git. you going to knockhill on sunday? if you have it fitted by then ill be very interested to hear what it sounds like in the flesh! cheers, jamie.

Fraser.J. · May 14, 2013

Very lucky! Cracking deal they gave me!

I will be up on Sunday

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