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IT Jobs
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IT jobs are hard to get into...i was v.lucky to get this IT Manager one
lol dont say that.
Someone help Me Out!!!
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Yer, cannot even install vista :rasp:
nope
IT jobs are hard to get into...i was v.lucky to get this IT Manager one
I never took the uni route!
Anyway im basically looking for either a desktop support (helping ppl out with MS Office an sht like that) role or Junior Developer role (using mysql).
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Where about are you?
We have two offices in the UK - Gerrards Cross (near Uxbridge) and Cambridge. HQ is in Florida - last time I was there I had a meeting on the beech!
Dirty E91
try www.CWjobs.co.uk
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Wow, thats sounds amazing, do you have the chance to live out in america if you wanted then?
We have two offices in the UK - Gerrards Cross (near Uxbridge) and Cambridge. HQ is in Florida - last time I was there I had a meeting on the beech!
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Wow, thats sounds amazing, do you have the chance to live out in america if you wanted then?We have two offices in the UK - Gerrards Cross (near Uxbridge) and Cambridge. HQ is in Florida - last time I was there I had a meeting on the beech!
To be honest, probably not! Having said that, we have a pretty good culture in our UK offices as the 'US ways' have made it over here. There's a lot to be said for that. The beech meeting was really just a 'working lunch' in the sunshine!
There are so many types of job that come under the banner IT that there is always a way in but it helps if you know roughly what you want to do. I've done recruitment fairs for my company and it's amazing how many people "want to work in IT" but when you press further they really don't exactly WHAT they want to do! There are probably loads of us here who claim to work in IT but I bet we all have very different jobs. It's a very loose clasification of work, imho.
Have a look at www.jobserve.co.uk as a good starting point - they claim to have over 26,000 IT jobs listed at the moment! Get sending that CV out!
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Link is: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/
last time I was there I had a meeting on the beech!
I've got visions of people sitting around in a tree house with comedy child size cups and saucers having a meeting now!
I work with computers (software engineer - pc/mac/linux & embedded) but absolutely hate the term IT and refuse to use it!
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Try the NHS, it's the biggest employer in the country. My health board employs 46,000 people alone. It has a more diverse range of IT systems than any other organisation in Europe, you name it and it's running somewhere. I would say there's plenty of scope for progression, although it can occasionally be stressful as there is more than just a profit margine at stake....unless of course you end up working with GPs, in which case profit is everything
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How about ICT? infomation communication technology.
ICT & IT are basically the same!
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IT jobs are hard to get into...i was v.lucky to get this IT Manager one
Are you the one that works for PC world?
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You will need to accept a crap job with crap pay and crap hours to get your foot in the door...I started on a 24/7 helpdesk in 2000 for £12K...then went to Fujitsu supporting central government computer systems, then have done a few years contracting/2ndline roles and just this week started in a college as technical support on more than £12K!!!
Without the first job, you will struggle to get into IT...as companies don't want to gamble...so if you take a role on where people who are already in IT wouldn't accept the wage, then you may stand a chance...also studying for MCPs (Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician for example) can help too. I have specialisms in Novell and ZenWorks as I thought that a lot of places would use it..but they don't except pretty much legacy council systems...so learn the Microsoft route and then specialise from there when you start working for someone.
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lol I know, was joking
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I started at BT just taking a crappy help desk job which sucked but I didn't have to think very hard lol. I just needed something that paid at the time, never meant to stay there.
Then I did some development/programming work for one of the managers on my floor, he was so impressed he stole me off the help desk and I started working for him, after a year I picked up a big project, buit a massive database system for them. Now Im the manager, I run the system, manage 2 staff, work at home and get paid very very well.
My point is with some places, you need a foot in the door to progress as some positions are advertised internally before being thrown to the recruitment companies. A LOT of big places will try and fill positions with their own people so they can "move up" in the company and the lesser positions are constantly turning over.
Then I did some development/programming work for one of the managers on my floor, he was so impressed he stole me off the help desk and I started working for him, after a year I picked up a big project, buit a massive database system for them. Now Im the manager, I run the system, manage 2 staff, work at home and get paid very very well.
My point is with some places, you need a foot in the door to progress as some positions are advertised internally before being thrown to the recruitment companies. A LOT of big places will try and fill positions with their own people so they can "move up" in the company and the lesser positions are constantly turning over.
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This is exactly how my company works; I'm the Systems/Technical Support Manager for a software company in Nottingham, and when we bring people into the business, it's usually in 'entry level' positions, such as Technical Support. We then train them and get them thinking in our way, they learn our business and our customers (which is the most important thing).
Then, when vacancies appear elsewhere in the business, we promote from within wherever possible. Four of our Project Managers (think £25k plus Car a year) started with us on 1st line Support jobs, and worked their way up.
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What company is that in Notts? I only live in mansfield so that would be ideal.
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I'm like McBunny. Started on 11,000 a year with no experience or qualifications. Moved up to 18,000 a year. Then left to run my own business for 12mths, migrated those over to my new employer and am now part of a team of IT Engineers at a thriving ICT Solutions Company and earn much more than I would have at my old job + have company car, phone, fuel card etc... so its all good.
If i were you id bury my head in a low paid job at least related to the industry. Right now you're on here saying you want to "fix MS Office n sht" or use "mysql". I'll tell you know those aren't particularly things you're likely to pad out into a satisfactory skillset to just walk into a job that will give you the kind of opportunities you're looking for immediately. Canvas around places like ISP's, look abroard at call centre positions and get yourself in an arena where you can become technically proficient whilst learning on the job.
I was "fortunate" enough to go to University, my skills from there have transferred readily into the work place but I'm currently studying two further qualifications, vendor specific, to keep progressing. My main qualm about IT , or ICT, is that people seem to think its an easy job. After all, people just see you sitting in a chair all day right? Wrong. Think long and hard about getting into the industry, it's not a regular 9-5 clock in clock out job, I can work anywhere from 8 to 14 hour days, I handed my notice in 3 weeks ago and I will still continue to put that kind of effort into my job regardless. Opportunities are around but it's up to you to take a leap and work on the lowest rung of the ladder to start with. Having done that, much like the cake-a-saurus above, 2 years after my graduation I am leaving this position to move to Paris to work for an absolute monster of a company and the experience is going to be invaluable but the opportunity was mine to make and having put the hard work into boosting skillsets and qualifications in a practical environment I'm happy to say its paid off.
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I was "fortunate" enough to go to University, my skills from there have transferred readily into the work place but I'm currently studying two further qualifications, vendor specific, to keep progressing. My main qualm about IT , or ICT, is that people seem to think its an easy job. After all, people just see you sitting in a chair all day right? Wrong. Think long and hard about getting into the industry, it's not a regular 9-5 clock in clock out job, I can work anywhere from 8 to 14 hour days, I handed my notice in 3 weeks ago and I will still continue to put that kind of effort into my job regardless. Opportunities are around but it's up to you to take a leap and work on the lowest rung of the ladder to start with. Having done that, much like the cake-a-saurus above, 2 years after my graduation I am leaving this position to move to Paris to work for an absolute monster of a company and the experience is going to be invaluable but the opportunity was mine to make and having put the hard work into boosting skillsets and qualifications in a practical environment I'm happy to say its paid off.
This post is a shambles.
You will need to accept a crap job with crap pay and crap hours to get your foot in the door...I started on a 24/7 helpdesk in 2000 for £12K...then went to Fujitsu supporting central government computer systems, then have done a few years contracting/2ndline roles and just this week started in a college as technical support on more than £12K!!!
Without the first job, you will struggle to get into IT...as companies don't want to gamble...so if you take a role on where people who are already in IT wouldn't accept the wage, then you may stand a chance...also studying for MCPs (Microsoft Certified Desktop Support Technician for example) can help too. I have specialisms in Novell and ZenWorks as I thought that a lot of places would use it..but they don't except pretty much legacy council systems...so learn the Microsoft route and then specialise from there when you start working for someone.
As Donny said above, get your foot in the door doing 1st line, that's what I did then went onto 2nd line desktop/server support, then to network support and now I'm learning Meridian/Nortel systems which is hard as f**k, but the money potential is fantastic... looking at easily £40k+ for a permanent position or £60+ for contracting according to Job Serve
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As Gav says above, it's great if you're good at one, maybe two roles and know that sh1t inside and out. You limit yourself (obviously) to what's out there, but your potential to the right firm makes you gold-dust.
From here, we cover shedloads of different aspects from servers, desktops, PDAs, printers, networks, backups, WAN links etc. We learn a lot about most things, but we're not masters of one particular area.
Makes for a varied day at least!
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From here, we cover shedloads of different aspects from servers, desktops, PDAs, printers, networks, backups, WAN links etc. We learn a lot about most things, but we're not masters of one particular area.
Makes for a varied day at least!
D.
^^^ Agree with that! Trouble is, if I'm down the pub and someone asks what I do, it's easier to say IT and move on quickly than explain I'm a Software Test Engineer that tests large scale enterprise remote access solutions...
I certainly don't see myself as working in IT, but as I 'work with computers' (as my mum describes it!) that is the label that gets attached. I also think it's different if you work for a software vendor like I do, and sn00p does by the sound of it, as that is very different to the user end of the market. (I've worked for both and enjoy what I do now a lot more!)One of the guys here we took on for 2 weeks during his A Levels for some work experience. He came back a few times and he asked if he could join us rather than going to Uni. We took him on and he is now in charge of a pretty major work area for us. I guess he was lucky as he knew someone who worked for the company, but it does show that their are many ways into the industry.
This is an interesting thread, mainly as I'm now trying to work out who everyone works for!
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