Clio 4 RS VS Fiesta ST EcoBoost

[Slammed172]

Well, I hope everyone is going to merge to Ford :O

I think Ford have done a cracking job of the new ST - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/ford-fiesta-st-uk-first-drive-review

No longer a warm-hatch.

Clio 4 however have completely lost my vote, it's vile and does nothing for me. Yeah the engines ok, but it's just a normal road car now.

The Fiesta ST however, looks the part and does all of the above. We had the 11 plate base model 1.2's at my previous bodyshop as courtesy cars, and they were simple epic (in terms of a small car). The interior is great for a base and the turning and gearbox, oh brilliant. Never experienced turn in like that in such a basic car - I can only assume this ST will have all that, plus more.

Your thoughts ?

Ford Fiesta ST-2
Price: £17,995; 0-62mph: 6.9sec; Top speed: 139mph; Economy:47.9mpg; CO2: 138g/km; Kerb weight: 1163kg; Engine: 4 cyls, 1596cc, turbocharged, petrol; Power: 179bhp at 5700rpm; Torque:199lb ft at 1900-4000rpm; Gearbox: 6-spd manual

 

[Jaff.]

My thoughts... The ecoboost engines are simply brilliant.

when they were first announced I had my doubts but honestly they are superb

 

[Alex Conway]

Sounds promising with this line "The old front-drive intransigence is gone; on cold tyres, a cold surface and with the ESP switched off, abrupt lift will require opposite lock"

Looks lively enough in this clip!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-KempOrImw

 

[MarkCup]

Does the ST have bespoke pumped up body panels, or are they the same like all the lowly Eco and diesel versions?

 

[Jaff.]

Probably find its like the focus. Spoiler and bumpers + side skirts and badge = st

 

[MarkCup]

Probably find its like the focus. Spoiler and bumpers + side skirts and badge = st

Is that enough?

 

[fdog]

Well, I hope everyone is going to merge to Ford :O

I think Ford have done a cracking job of the new ST - http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/first-drives/ford-fiesta-st-uk-first-drive-review

No longer a warm-hatch.

Clio 4 however have completely lost my vote, it's vile and does nothing for me. Yeah the engines ok, but it's just a normal road car now.

The Fiesta ST however, looks the part and does all of the above. We had the 11 plate base model 1.2's at my previous bodyshop as courtesy cars, and they were simple epic (in terms of a small car). The interior is great for a base and the turning and gearbox, oh brilliant. Never experienced turn in like that in such a basic car - I can only assume this ST will have all that, plus more.

Your thoughts ?

i have the same reservations as you and on 1st impressions the st gets my vote, im hoping that renault get there fingers out there arse and give people the more focused version of the car that they are crying out for.

 

[Slammed172]

I believe the bonnet, front and back bumper is different to the ZS model. And then both ZS and ST have additional side-skirts and spoiler that base do not. So the answer to your questing is, bonnet.

 

[Jaff.]

Is that enough?

​+ the engine on the focus was enough for me don't know if you'll get this 1.6 ecoboost in anything other than the st?

 

[aucky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-KempOrImw

That does look fun!

 

[MarkCup]

So the answer to your questing is, bonnet.

+ doors + front wings + rear wings = identical except spoilers, bumpers and skirts?

That sounds familiar. How is that any different to the 'normal road car' 4RS?

 

[Slammed172]

+ doors + front wings + rear wings = identical except spoilers, bumpers and skirts?

That sounds familiar. How is that any different to the 'normal road car' 4RS?

3 doors

 

[Slammed172]

+ doors + front wings + rear wings = identical except spoilers, bumpers and skirts + bonnet?

That sounds familiar. How is that any different to the 'normal road car' 4RS?

3 doors

 

[Jaff.]

LOL! ^

+ proper manual, 6th to 1st in 0.2 seconds

 

[Daniel]

It's the automatic gearbox I can't get my head around.

I understand 5 doors, I understand 1.6T, I understand (to a degree) the dreadful styling. I could bypass all of that and STILL buy one because Renault always make good hot hatches, but I don't want an Automatic ffs. I want to use a clutch. Shame.

 

[Slammed172]

My OP would be different if the CLIO 4 RS was this:

 

[fdog]

My OP would be different if the CLIO 4 RS was this:

like this, brembo's??

 

[Gally]

It's the fact the standard Fiesta is that brilliant. Honestly I didn't want to get out the one I was using.

The steering was utterly immense, granted the car was brand spanking new but where I stay I had no need for any power at all. Gearbox, seating, steering in a 1.25 Fiesta were better than some 25k Golf's i've driven, the car was a revelation.

I've driven probably 10+ ZS' and I can only imagine how well the ST drives. Very eager to gwt a drive in one.

 

[glowworm105]

It's the fact the standard Fiesta is that brilliant. Honestly I didn't want to get out the one I was using.

The steering was utterly immense, granted the car was brand spanking new but where I stay I had no need for any power at all. Gearbox, seating, steering in a 1.25 Fiesta were better than some 25k Golf's i've driven, the car was a revelation.

I've driven probably 10+ ZS' and I can only imagine how well the ST drives. Very eager to gwt a drive in one.

I thought the same when I had one for a few weeks it was a very good car, it didn't have much go being the 1.25 but it just felt excellent to drive, I also thought the stereo was pretty good lol

 

[CrippsCorner]

I still think the 208 GTi is the looker out of the three... *prepares flamesuit*

 

[Jaff.]

I thought the same when I had one for a few weeks it was a very good car, it didn't have much go being the 1.25 but it just felt excellent to drive, I also thought the stereo was pretty good lol

The upgraded Sony stuff in fords is superb I've found! Pleasantly surprised tbh

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Fantastic looking in PB, it'll be great.

Bottom line is, Renault will sell far more 4RS'.

 

[Gally]

I still think the 208 GTi is the looker out of the three... *prepares flamesuit*

It's not a bad car the 208 but the 3 of them are hardly pretty. The front of the ST is still hard to take but from the rear, like the ZS, no contest for me.

 

[Jack!]

Bottom line is, Renault will sell far more 4RS'.

If they manage to find a way for the blind to drive maybe? I think it's hideous. I'd be going Ford out of the bunch.

 

[JoshOm3]

I still think the 208 GTi is the looker out of the three... *prepares flamesuit*

Wtf. Their ugly as sin.

 

[RSprojects]

looks gay

 

[MarkCup]

My OP would be different if the CLIO 4 RS was this:

That's just amazing. What a change, it looks sooooooo different.

LOL

 

[scotty10]

I still think the 208 GTi is the looker out of the three... *prepares flamesuit*

Was just thinking this myself while reading this thread

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

If they manage to find a way for the blind to drive maybe? I think it's hideous. I'd be going Ford out of the bunch.

Alot of people 'think' its hideous. The same people that were crying about 200's now drive them.

 

[daydotz]

Shop is good

The fiesta sounds like a fun little car

 

[CrippsCorner]

I still think the 208 GTi is the looker out of the three... *prepares flamesuit*

Wtf. Their ugly as sin.

And yet still better looking than the Clio 200T and Fiesta ST... what's that saying :S

The ultimate best would have been the Fiesta ST pre-facelift now that was a good looking little hatchback, before it got slapped round the chops by a fish.

 

[Jaff.]

Am I the only person in the world that loves the guppy grille? I think it makes the front end mean as! And it really suits the fords.

its a damn site better than having a blue oval the size of France on the front

 

[-J-]

I really like the ST, think it looks great (well better than the new Clio)

2 doors, manual and good power. Fords always have a good following so the tuners should pick up on the engines capability a very quickly and have a good range if upgrades.

Will be a serious consideration for me when it comes time to buy a new car, where as the new clio is not a consideration as I don't think it's aimed at me as a market consideration.

 

[Vicky.]

I really like the look of the new ST. Being in Essex I'm sure I'll be seeing it about alot soon lol.

As Daniel said why Renault decided to make the 4RS flappy paddle is beyond me. Surely that will only hinder sales?

 

[RexinaTrophy]

Unlikely to happen.

 

[Stephenx77]

For me, the 5 doors and ridiculously big renault badge ruin the 200 turbo for me, so ST all the way.

 

[Munson]

Saw my first ST today. Looked really good.

 

[Adamm.]

Clio all day long.. Why wouldn't I choose the more superior car? Little fiesta with only 3 doors and its old fashioned gearbox..

 

[Slammed172]

The ultimate best would have been the Fiesta ST pre-facelift now that was a good looking little hatchback, before it got slapped round the chops by a fish.

I have to agree, only downside on the exterior. Could you not just fit a pre-factlift front-bumper and grille to it ?!

Clio all day long.. Why wouldn't I choose the more superior car? Little fiesta with only 3 doors and its old fashioned gearbox..

Hope your trolling.

 

[CrippsCorner]

Fiesta all day long.. Why wouldn't I choose the more superior car? Little fiesta with only 3 doors and its old fashioned gearbox..

​EFA