Clio 200 - The last NA

[ravydavygravy]

Will the 200 go down in history as the last proper naturally aspirated hot hatch?

Seems so imo. There's no going back now.

 

[ukaskew]

The Suzuki Swift Sport is still NA, more warm than hot, but a great car regardless.

 

[Martin_172]

remember that time the 182 was the last proper "old skool" hot hatch, and the Williams, and the 5 turbo...

 

[Jaff.]

The op has a point tbh. As hot hatches go their all boosted now, the 200 was the last NA hot hatch. That's not to say the new 200 won't be as good (even though its fugly) but it does have a snail attached this time

 

[Martin_172]

wonder when the twingo RS will get a TCE140!

 

[Chris Lewis]

No, because laws will change when the EU collapses.

 

[MartinR]

No, because laws will change when the EU collapses.

Good point

 

[Chip-mk1]

Seems unlikely manufacturers will ever go back to N/A for performance use in a hatchback so yes I reckon it could well be the last mainstream N/A proper hot hatch.

 

[Laura]

not sure why but i never saw the 197 or 200 as a hot hatch,

in my head hot hatches are 205 gtis, renault 5s and things like novas.. maybe im showing my age.

 

[Chip-mk1]

not sure why but i never saw the 197 or 200 as a hot hatch,

in my head hot hatches are 205 gtis, renault 5s and things like novas.. maybe im showing my age.

I sort of view it the same way in that to me its too big and modern to feel like a "proper" hot hatch to me, I do prefer the old school stuff, 172 is as modern as I get really with my interest in cars! Even though Ive drive a 200 on track and its definately everything a hatch should be in terms of the handling and revvy engine etc.

 

[Martin_172]

I thought the 200 could never be a proper hot hatch until i bought one and they are brilliant, the thing lift off oversteers like a 205 gti!!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Yes they certainly handle like a hot hatch, no denying that

 

[Munson]

Meh. A hot hatch is a hot version of a regular hatchback. That is all. Because not stuck in past.

As for oversteer. My boosted bus oversteers more on track than my Clio did.

 

[Filippo]

NA is certainly the connoisseur's choice.

 

[Chip-mk1]

NA is certainly the connoisseur's choice.

Fast
Reliable
N/A

Pick any two.


For the sort of power outputs some of us on here want, N/A just cant cut it and still be reliable sadly

 

[Joe#]

Is the latest Civic Type-R going to be boosted? I heard talks of them ditching VTEC?

 

[Hixle]

Fast
Reliable
N/A

Pick any two.

Like that.

 

[MarkCup]

Fast
Reliable
N/A

Pick any two.

Fabulously succinct Chip.

Never thought of it like that, makes perfect sense.

 

[Munson]

Boost is for men. Regular is for people who think they are race car drivers.

 

[Hixle]

Boost is for men.

Even 0.8 bar? HI

 

[Chip-mk1]

Even 0.8 bar? HI

0.8 > 0


Its just the rest of you/your car that fails, not the amount of boost pressure


Buy a 172 and do trackdays with us all!

 

[Joe#]

Is the latest Civic Type-R going to be boosted? I heard talks of them ditching VTEC?

 

[Munson]

I said boost.

 

[leeroybrown]

New Civic is aiming to smash the RING record for a FWD car.

 

[Chip-mk1]

I said boost.

Golden rules of enjoyable motoring:
always have less doors than wheels
always more pressure in your inlet than in your tyres

 

[Munson]

I'm only rolling with 21psi so that f***s that up

 

[Chip-mk1]

I'm only rolling with 21psi so that f**ks that up

And to think I thought you liked girls.

 

[Munson]

In my defence, that 21psi is being forced into a 2500cc 5-pot

 

[Hixle]

0.8 > 0


Its just the rest of you/your car that fails, not the amount of boost pressure


Buy a 172 and do trackdays with us all!

LOL!

And yes, I'll be looking for a cup around summer time. Sort of caught the bug at Llandow

 

[Chip-mk1]

In my defence, that 21psi is being forced into a 2500cc 5-pot

Thats like saying "but my boyfriend does have long hair"

 

[Chip-mk1]

LOL!

And yes, I'll be looking for a cup around summer time. Sort of caught the bug at Llandow

Good lad

 

[Munson]

Thats like saying "but my boyfriend does have long hair"

You sound a bit gay.

 

[Chrisgti6]

Boost is for men.

Any more stipulation than that? The wife has boost in her Ibiza (1.2!) Does that make her more of a man than me?! lol

 

[Munson]

Ja.

 

[Chip-mk1]

You sound a bit gay.

No mate, 2 bar proves otherwise. lol

 

[Munson]

 

[200 Alex]

In my defence, that 21psi is being forced into a 2500cc 5-pot

I miss that. ((((

 

[cliokid182]

Is the latest Civic Type-R going to be boosted? I heard talks of them ditching VTEC?

Yeh they are it's only suppose to be around 210bhp as well it's 2ltr turbo.

 

[Wick]

Fast
Reliable
N/A

Pick any two.

Interesting analogy of the Speed, Economy, Reliability triangle shaped thing that I tend to go by... IMO driving perfection sits in the centre, but then that's me being a favourer of NA.

 

[Spedem]

Yeh they are it's only suppose to be around 210bhp as well it's 2ltr turbo.

It'll be a 1.6t. Ruins the whole point if the type r imo