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220 trophy 0-1000m
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Starlet_gt
ClioSport Club Member
VW T5.1
The 200t and 220 do seem to be getting a bit more popular as the price drops (by me at least) in my village there's mine and one other then I regularly spot another 3 around the place. On par with the fiesta st in my location lol
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Yes sales figures for Europe.
Zero drama aka not having to rev the tits off it to get anywhere
It's probably more to do with the auto gearbox.
The 172, 182 even the 197 and 200 (n/a) look/feel far more exciting even if they're slower round a track.
Having had a 200 n/a and now and 220 I can see your point the 200 does look at bit more motorsport and a bit more involving, but things have moved on the 200 brakes were not up to much, no torque. I can see the appeal of the n/a engine as I've had a few civic R's aswell as the clio, but after a while especially when going on a long journey it's no fun when all the diesel reps have you off.
Clio 220 Trophy, 172
I'm 35 years old, but thanks.
RS280EDC
I do agree @Lctr my trips to Belgium and Germany are costing less and less tiring to do in the 220
Evo 5 RS
I lose track of what's fast and what isn't. I used to think my Ph1 was fast at 6.5s, then I drove the GTR / My Evo. "Oh..."
Always bigger fish, eh.
If it feels fast, that's what counts.
Always bigger fish, eh.
If it feels fast, that's what counts.
RS280EDC
Everything is down to use times running costs buying is cheap bit relatively
Ricardos
ClioSport Club Member
LY 200 EDC
The Mk4 is a completely different car, in many ways to the older generation Clios. It's gone turbo, result, easier power gains and pound for pound against N/A much cheaper.
If you don't like the look or the fact it has rear doors, oh well. I don't know the ins and outs (although economics, costs is a factor) of why it went 4 door but it is.
The tech in the Mk4 is on a different level, reading the brochure and if you choose to believe the PR shpiel. 150 milliseconds gearchanges, RS monitor that changes the steering, throttle response it offers a lot more than the outgoing Clios ever did.
To be honest I could sit here and waffle on about loads of stuff but at the end of the day everyone is different. I bought it for me, I bought because I like the Mk4 shape, I bought it for the colour, the fact that I can be lazy in Auto mode but flip to the paddles and hit RACE mode whenever I like.
2 months on and I'm still getting used to it but personally I think I've made a good choice. For what I've paid plus the map there's not much out there that floats my boat against it, that's my opinion.
If you don't like the look or the fact it has rear doors, oh well. I don't know the ins and outs (although economics, costs is a factor) of why it went 4 door but it is.
The tech in the Mk4 is on a different level, reading the brochure and if you choose to believe the PR shpiel. 150 milliseconds gearchanges, RS monitor that changes the steering, throttle response it offers a lot more than the outgoing Clios ever did.
To be honest I could sit here and waffle on about loads of stuff but at the end of the day everyone is different. I bought it for me, I bought because I like the Mk4 shape, I bought it for the colour, the fact that I can be lazy in Auto mode but flip to the paddles and hit RACE mode whenever I like.
2 months on and I'm still getting used to it but personally I think I've made a good choice. For what I've paid plus the map there's not much out there that floats my boat against it, that's my opinion.
, made me laugh, so true
Not sure but says stock engine
there isn't much difference between old and new clio sport 0-60 mph, but take standard examples of each to a 1/4 mile track and the newer models will be a little quicker.
independent test figures at the end of the video...
clio 200 edc vs clio 182, both standard in a controlled environment, rolling start, drag race.
clio 200 edc vs clio 220 trophy, rolling start drag race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TBvdDkywc
so to sum up, 182 comfortably beaten by 200 edc, and 200 edc comfortably beaten by 220 trophy.
But according to some, strangely some 172 / 182's are much quicker than a new 220 trophy.........well they may well be, but not standard against standard.
Besides The new Trophy isn't all about straight line speed, its a track focused car.
How would a standard 172 / 182 fare against a new fiesta st around a lap of a race track.... it would get destroyed by the fiesta, but a new clio 220 Trophy is much faster around a race track than even the newest fiesta st 200.
lap times at the end of video, Trophy vs ST 200.
independent test figures at the end of the video...
clio 200 edc vs clio 182, both standard in a controlled environment, rolling start, drag race.
clio 200 edc vs clio 220 trophy, rolling start drag race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4TBvdDkywc
so to sum up, 182 comfortably beaten by 200 edc, and 200 edc comfortably beaten by 220 trophy.
But according to some, strangely some 172 / 182's are much quicker than a new 220 trophy.........well they may well be, but not standard against standard.
Besides The new Trophy isn't all about straight line speed, its a track focused car.
How would a standard 172 / 182 fare against a new fiesta st around a lap of a race track.... it would get destroyed by the fiesta, but a new clio 220 Trophy is much faster around a race track than even the newest fiesta st 200.
lap times at the end of video, Trophy vs ST 200.
Chrisgti6
ClioSport Club Member
MR2,TT V6,Swift,Mini
I think the brakes on your 200 n/a were broken. The 197 I had would hurt your face it could brake so hard!
Did you have it from new?
No was three years old and had 10,000 miles on it ,my Megane 265 was the same .The 220 has more bite to them ,I heard Renault ditched the brembos as they were not good enough and I would agree what's on it now are spot on.
Yes ,I think it could be the pad material , it's always commented that the meganes brakes naff to.The master cylinder is also bigger on mk4 Clio than the mk3 Clio and meganes.
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True, I'm just going from my experience of standard brakes
BMW M4; S1000 RR
To be fair it's not just callipers that make up a brake system.
The 200EDC I went in at Brands felt like it was going to do a stoppie the brakes. Not saying they're better or worse than the mk3 but they are very effective.
Suzuki Jimny
I had a 200 from new and the brakes were almost overkill for the car.
In not somebody that's heavy on the breaks, so maybe they suit my driving style better?
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
i had my 61 plate 200 from new and the brakes were never as good as I expected, my 182 on good pads fluid and discs would out brake it no problem. Then I got a 197 with new genuine Renault discs and pads and the brakes were FANTASTIC! night and day compaired to my 200... odd one, never got my head round it, exact same setup!
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