182 Cup - Bilstein B14s vs OEM & Springs

[jeitah]

Hey all,

After some advice - my 182 Cup needs all of the shocks replaced.

OEM Cup shocks are 290GBP landed in Australia. Whilst I'm doing these, I thought I'd go for a set of Eibachs, which will be an additional 220GBP landed (510GBP total).

Comparatively, a set of B14s is 649GBP landed.

This is not my daily driver, however weekend driving on the road only, very few track days. Not particularly interested in lowering for the sake of it, so that's not a driver.

Question: is it worth the extra spend for coilovers? No one near me down here to try the options.

Incidentally, what's the difference between eibach pro and sportline? Aside from ride height?

Thanks!

 

[adamlstr]

B14 is by far and away the best suspension I've experienced for a road-going Clio.

More compliant and far more comfortable than standard or eibach shocks/springs. And the grip levels were incredible, so much confidence as it felt like the car was planted on the road, rather than perched on top of it.

I had the 'lower' Eibach sportline springs before going B14, they barely did anything.

Clio 172 Cup by Adam Lister, on Flickr

B14:

Renault Clio 172 Cup by Adam Lister, on Flickr

 

[masekwm]

I've just fitted B14s and I don't like them yet.

I'd go for the standard shocks and Eibachs. But shop around as I've just quickly found the set up for £365 including delivery to Oz

 

[jeitah]

I've just fitted B14s and I don't like them yet.

I'd go for the standard shocks and Eibachs. But shop around as I've just quickly found the set up for £365 including delivery to Oz

Really? Who from?

 

[jeitah]

B14 is by far and away the best suspension I've experienced for a road-going Clio.

More compliant and far more comfortable than standard or eibach shocks/springs. And the grip levels were incredible, so much confidence as it felt like the car was planted on the road, rather than perched on top of it.

I had the 'lower' Eibach sportline springs before going B14, they barely did anything.

Clio 172 Cup by Adam Lister, on Flickr

B14:

Renault Clio 172 Cup by Adam Lister, on Flickr

Wow....that sounds unreal.

 

[T.Trophy]

I've got B14s on my Trophy and really like them. Previously I had Mark Fish springs, koni rear shocks and SACHs front dampers.

I would say they aren't quite as plush as my old setup, but they were only £475 delivered and came with built in camber adjustment. I've not had it on track yet but I would say it's more focused than before especially with the RARB .

 

[masekwm]

Really? Who from?

Using Fish Brothers on Ebay and request delivery to OZ or one of the sellers on here, they'd just use Parcel Monkey

 

[Jekyll]

I've got B14s on my Trophy and really like them. Previously I had Mark Fish springs, koni rear shocks and SACHs front dampers.

I would say they aren't quite as plush as my old setup, but they were only £475 delivered and came with built in camber adjustment. I've not had it on track yet but I would say it's more focused than before especially with the RARB .

Where did you find the b14's that cheap?

 

[Paprika123]

I had B14 on my Trophy and loved them.

 

[T.Trophy]

Where did you find the b14's that cheap?

Got them from Germany last year, just checked the website it doesn't look like they still do them.

 

[Jekyll]

Ah yes, a few members on here got them from there. Bargain price!

Unfortunately the next price in the UK is probably another £200+

 

[ForceIndia]

I've had eibach sport/pro, and several manufacturers of coil over. The bilsteins are far and away better than standard shocks with eibach etc.

 

[Thrust-Rated]

Are they easy to install and set up? I saw these have been dropped in price on KTEC other day.

I'm considering going down the coil over route

 

[jeitah]

Ah yes, a few members on here got them from there. Bargain price!

Unfortunately the next price in the UK is probably another £200+

Yeah, I think this is Fahrwerkstechnik? I emailed them...their prices are far cheaper, but B14s to suit cup spacing are out of stock for 11 weeks

 

[jeitah]

Thanks for all the replies, very much appreciated.

 

[Adamm.]

B14's are great but really speaking on the road there's not much in it between them and lowering springs like cooksport or sportlines.

Considering the price difference though I think the B14's are a good shot but don't expect night and day difference like some would have you believe.

 

[Jekyll]

But you can adjust the height to suit, where as shocks/springs is one set height. Nothing worse then getting lowering springs and them not going to the height you hoped for.

However shocks and springs "should" last longer. Swings and roundabouts I guess. Depends what your after between the two.

 

[seanybaby1788]

Keep hearing people mention about getting then imported. Anyone know where from?

 

[jeitah]

But you can adjust the height to suit, where as shocks/springs is one set height. Nothing worse then getting lowering springs and them not going to the height you hoped for.

However shocks and springs "should" last longer. Swings and roundabouts I guess. Depends what your after between the two.

Fair call...I don't do much weekly driving anyway, so longevity isn't as much of a concern as maybe it is for others. Another tick in the box for bilsteins..

 

[Rubicon_]

I've B14's on my cup, only had them on track once but they were superb! I'd replaced every single bush as well so that might have contributed.

 

[Jimb0]

My standard trophy and my trophy with B14's feel completely different when driven back to back. I'd say if you're going to track it, go B14's.

 

[seanybaby1788]

Keep hearing people mention about getting then imported. Anyone know where from?

Looking to order these soon. Annnyyyoonnneee?

 

[jeitah]

Looking to order these soon. Annnyyyoonnneee?

Hey man, try Fahrwerkstechnik, German website. I think a few if you from the UK have bought from here in the past

 

[Paprika123]

Looking to order these soon. Annnyyyoonnneee?

http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de

 

[Gus]

Hey all,

After some advice - my 182 Cup needs all of the shocks replaced.

OEM Cup shocks are 290GBP landed in Australia. Whilst I'm doing these, I thought I'd go for a set of Eibachs, which will be an additional 220GBP landed (510GBP total).

Comparatively, a set of B14s is 649GBP landed.


This is not my daily driver, however weekend driving on the road only, very few track days. Not particularly interested in lowering for the sake of it, so that's not a driver.

Question: is it worth the extra spend for coilovers? No one near me down here to try the options.

Incidentally, what's the difference between eibach pro and sportline? Aside from ride height?

Thanks!

There is no question that B14's would be much better than replacing the shocks and springs. For the extra £150 there is no doubt about it. Just do it. Make sure you get the right ones (60mm hub bolt spacing on cups )

I have B14's on one of my 182's and also cup shocks and eibachs on the other 182. Also have recent experience of trophy sachs and can say that the B14's are my favourite.

yes get them from: http://www.mk-fahrwerkstechnik.de , me and @dann2707 found this site two years ago and loads have ordered since.

 

[Jekyll]

On the drop down menu, what's 172 and 182? Want to get the bolt spacing right.

 

[Paprika123]

On the drop down menu, what's 172 and 182? Want to get the bolt spacing right.

You're best getting the part numbers off somewhere like KAM racing site and searching that way.

 

[seanybaby1788]

Not sure it works out much cheaper than ktec after adding VAT.....

 

[Paprika123]

Not sure it works out much cheaper than ktec after adding VAT.....

Vat is included...?

 

[RichieJA]

£512 delivered for them, how better are they than say ap ktec or vmaxx coilovers I won't mention ta technix ones I think that's a swear word here lol

 

[Daniel]

I will echo that for fun road driving, B14's are the best suspension I've experienced on a 172/182.

Given your options i'd go B14's every time.

 

[Daniel]

£512 delivered for them, how better are they than say ap ktec or vmaxx coilovers I won't mention ta technix ones I think that's a swear word here lol

Not even comparable!

 

[seanybaby1788]

Vat is included...?

If thats including VAT then i stand corrected. Couldnt find the 60mm fit tho.....

 

[jeitah]

If thats including VAT then i stand corrected. Couldnt find the 60mm fit tho.....

60mm is out of stock, they can order them, but it's a 10 week wait.

 

[Thrust-Rated]

10 weeks..... I can wait that long. The ring trip isn't till end of June......

Best do some man maths.

 

[Jimbob 2705]

60mm is out of stock, they can order them, but it's a 10 week wait.

10 weeks..... I can wait that long. The ring trip isn't till end of June......

Best do some man maths.

I believe they are coming into stock towards the end of March, that's what they've told me anyway

I've been waiting since the end of October for a set in 60mm spacing, tbh if K-Tec's offer was on sooner I'd of probably of got them from there, but as I've waited so long I might as well wait and get the from MK

 

[Jekyll]

I'm pretty much set on trying these (b14's) from the German site. Infact, it'll probably be the first thing I order once I buy a car.

 

[Jekyll]

Is it hard to order/translate off the German site? I can find the 54mm spacing with the correct part number, but I'm a little lost from then on.

 

[imprezaworks]

Had b14's on and off track and they were great

 

[-Jamie-]

http://www.fahrwerke-stossdaempfer.de/en/


I got my Bilsteins for the Megane from here, Paid considerably less than what i would of in the UK and the actually cost not that much more than the OEM shocks were going to cost, No brainer really.

Arrived within 3 days of ordering, Direct from Bilstein.