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Ken Block is fcukin insane...
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BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
He isn't and like pretty much all of his gymkhana videos I found it very dull.
What's insane about doing donuts in a heavily RWD biased car, again and again until you get it right?
What's insane about doing donuts in a heavily RWD biased car, again and again until you get it right?
I really like his videos and actually I would suggest that, that requires no small amount of skill!
Ph1 Clio V6, Ph2 172
Jean Ragnotti would probably do most of that in his old mk1 Clio. He'd certainly take care of the donuts in his maxi turbo. Didn't this bloke try his hand at rallying but couldn't cut it?
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I think that's a little harsh. Colin Mcrae used to crash all the time and people have fond memories of him. Just because he's American and didn't win anything doesn't make him useless. I can't help thinking you're a little biased towards the old mk1 lol.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Donutting an AWD car with a heavy RWD bias is piss easy. Simply turn right to increase drift angle, turn left to decrease it (and vice versa). Throttle control is not required. All of the stuff you see in his videos is pretty much normal for rallying. But 'Murica hasn't heard of rallying, so when Ken Block does something every american thinks he's the first person to have ever done it. Case in point, jumping the car whilst drifting. Common. Yawn. Yet everyone who has no idea wet themselves at how amazing and original he is.
I'd like to see KB try gymkhana in a RWD car. I bet he wouldn't last 5 minutes.
And yeah, he bought his way into the WRC and didn't do very well, so he goes to the X-games with the most expensive, most powerful car there and just wins with his wallet.
The repetitive crap he keeps coming out with is as annoying as that FCUKING CREDITS NOISE! IT'S NOT EVEN MUSIC.
OMG hail the best driver in the world, whoop de f**king doo. When he does something new I might be impressed. Yeah, he's a better driver than me and I can appreciate the skill involved but it get's boring after 20 videos doing the same thing over and over.
OMG hail the best driver in the world, whoop de f**king doo. When he does something new I might be impressed. Yeah, he's a better driver than me and I can appreciate the skill involved but it get's boring after 20 videos doing the same thing over and over.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
You could pull off 90% of those drifts easily. Seriously, it's a lot easier than drifting a RWD car. The rest of the stunts, eg doing donuts around segways, you will probably do in a reasonable number of takes.
Someone with actual talent, e.g. all the drivers on the WRC for a start, should be able to do that in one take. Nothing in there that wouldn't be part of the average Super Special Stage.
Why don't you do WRC/Gymkhana then, you sound like ur a pro.
Owait.
As above, it's a bit of entertainment, nobody is forcing you to watch it!
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Why don't you do WRC/Gymkhana then, you sound like ur a pro.
Owait.
As above, it's a bit of entertainment, nobody is forcing you to watch it!
^^^^That
Nail- head.
Top bit of driving imo.
Lol at him not being very good. Closest on here anyone will ever get to that is doing a doughnut in a McDonalds car park with a couple of plastic trays under the back wheels.
He's clearly one of the best at what he does. Doesn't mean he has to be able to beat every driver at everything. FFS. Only in the internet.
He's clearly one of the best at what he does. Doesn't mean he has to be able to beat every driver at everything. FFS. Only in the internet.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Why don't you do WRC/Gymkhana then, you sound like ur a pro.
Owait.
As above, it's a bit of entertainment, nobody is forcing you to watch it!
Mummy and Daddy weren't rich enough to get me into it at the age of 12. The likes of Simon McKinley, Patrick Snijers etc (google!) are fantastic drivers, but if you haven't been rallying since before you can earn your own money then you've had it as far as competing at a professional level is concerned. Which is why they didn't make the WRC.
I did find the first two Gymkhana videos entertaining, but sadly it's the fans who believe that KB is the best driver ever to have lived which have ruined it.
However I'm out. I'll just go back to watching classic/actual rallying.
Surprisingly not that fun, just a bit of oppo with full throttle, anyone can do it.
Sod the drifting. I'd just go out look for Munson so I could traffic light GP his ass!
LOL.
That is until Gherkin comes flying past us both with a couple of trays under the back wheels of his Clio?
182cup & 172 racecar
As good as it is, it all gets a little boring now. Good skills though.
Exactly he is actually pretty good at exhibition driving, arguably better than any rally driver due to the amount of time he has spent doing it, no he can't stitch that corner in corner out on a world rally stage but to be floating around in the top ten on a world level is no mean feat.
These gymkhana videos are getting a bit boring despite little bits being added, if you really pay attention most of the drifting in that video had been done on the first attempt which is apparent by the lack of tyre marks. It might not all be one continuous take but certainly better than other videos.
Lol at drifting a 4x4 being easy, even rear biased... You obviously haven't driven one. Doing a full donut inside a box with an entry and exit to that box while still moving forward is really technical driving. A simple donut maybe not so.
Yeah I noticed that, quite a nice thing imo, though I agree they are getting a bit dull, but it beats seeing cars in McDonalds on crates.
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The later Audi AWD is arguably the worst system ever...
That added with your lazy 8 cylinder is probably a disaster for a 'drift' in your local halfords carpark.
Joking aside this is why the I love the Evo so much, AYC = Keep your bottle and foot down and just hold on.
You need to get rich. Then it will.
colin mcrae also beat block at x games 2006 after rolling his scooby as well.
To say block has no skill is a bit stilly but when people start saying he's the best ever is crazy, he wouldn't even make it in at least the top 20.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Several reasons really.
1. You do not have enough power. For a AWD car to drift well, it needs enough torque to spin all 4 wheels. So you need lots of torque from the engine, short gear ratios, or a low friction surface.
2. Most AWD cars have a fairly central torque split. Most cars are around 40-50% of power to the front wheels, which causes a lot of understeer. KB's fiesta probably has a 20-30% distribution.
3. Open diffs. You need locked diffs/LSD's or you're just going to piss all the power out through the front wheels. Which also causes understeer.
I'm not saying KB has no talent, he can be pretty good, he's had a few strong finishes when he's not crashed or broken down, but he's even more inconsistent than Yari Matti Latvala used to be, and way more inconsistent than McRae.
And RE drifting a AWD car set up like that being easy, well yes it is. Definitely easier than drifting a RWD car because if you over-angle it you just give it full lock and drop a gear and it WILL come back to you. It is nothing like driving a normal AWD car so you can't relate to it if you've just driven a scooby, chucked it in and booted it, then wondered why you understeered off the road, which is what I imagine Bonxy was thinking.
BoatNonce
ClioSport Club Member
Care to explain? With actual physics.
