Road/Track Car

[bozothenutter]

I have b14's and they are ace on the road, have my first trackday on sat so will let you knoe how it goes.

brakes, speak to George @G 172. Tyres, are you staying 16's? The Michelin sport cup3's are supposed to be very good whatever the weather. I have a spare set of 15's with track tyres on and keep my 16's for road

are cup 3's available in 16" ?

 

[bozothenutter]

btw,
I'm in the same boat as you, my 182 is a daily aswell, and i pick the kids up now and then.
I did my first trackday last year, (half a day of instruction, Half open pitlane) and went a bit overboard on mods (still am) if I were to do it again i'd leave my car as is, and find out what needs doing first.
If the suspension is 10 years old do that first, then book another day and revel in the improved handling!
I intend to use my road tyres for a while yet, just because they are what I use on the road and pushing on a trackday will give me a better feel for them (just do short stints so as not to kill them)

 

[not normal dan]

I think a good place to start really as many have said is get the car, give it a good once over service and fluid change then got some ds2500 front pads and brembo HC discs, fairly cheap and effective and they'll at least stand up to the abuse

Then maybe book some tuition, seems fairly cheap now days as you'll benefit from that in terms of picking your lines and extracting more from your car.

A popular setup seems to be cooksport springs and cup dampers with a set of camber bolts

That setup seems fairly good for the money and will be civil on the road. As said good coilovers come at a price.

I've gone for BC's on the Meg as they get good reviews on the Meg forums, simon at cornering force likes them and I've had a few friends that are more then happy with them and there's a large variety of springs available

 

[imprezaworks]

are cup 3's available in 16" ?

yes mate

 

[imprezaworks]

I think a good place to start really as many have said is get the car, give it a good once over service and fluid change then got some ds2500 front pads and brembo HC discs, fairly cheap and effective and they'll at least stand up to the abuse

Then maybe book some tuition, seems fairly cheap now days as you'll benefit from that in terms of picking your lines and extracting more from your car.

A popular setup seems to be cooksport springs and cup dampers with a set of camber bolts

That setup seems fairly good for the money and will be civil on the road. As said good coilovers come at a price.

I've gone for BC's on the Meg as they get good reviews on the Meg forums, simon at cornering force likes them and I've had a few friends that are more then happy with them and there's a large variety of springs available

With regards pads. The rc5+ are far better than the ds2500. Absolutly fine on the road too. Cooksport springs are a great option without going down the coilover route

 

[alistairolsen]

Eibachs or cooksports and standard dampers is <£250 if I recall. I wouldnt touch coilovers under ~£500, and that's only because Gaz is a good deal at the moment, anything else decent you can add 50% again.

 

[bozothenutter]

yes mate

you sure mate, ?
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-cup
only shows 18" and 19"

or do you mean the normal pilot sport 3?

 

[not normal dan]

With regards pads. The rc5+ are far better than the ds2500. Absolutly fine on the road too. Cooksport springs are a great option without going down the coilover route

Cool, I'm only quoting from experience of the ds2500 tbh.

Yeah I think your far better with something like a decent spring and damper setup rather then a cheap coilover especially at this level

 

[NorthloopCup]

Cool, I'm only quoting from experience of the ds2500 tbh.

Yeah I think your far better with something like a decent spring and damper setup rather then a cheap coilover especially at this level

I have no issues with the ds2500 and brembo hc combo as you've seen for yourself dan. It's all about your driving style - some people are heavy on the brakes some people aren't.

 

[not normal dan]

I have no issues with the ds2500 and brembo hc combo as you've seen for yourself dan. It's all about your driving style - some people are heavy on the brakes some people aren't.

I was always happy with them on the trophy and the 197, only went with the ds1.11 after recommendations off fellow Meg owners

 

[NorthloopCup]

I was always happy with them on the trophy and the 197, only went with the ds1.11 after recommendations off fellow Meg owners

Yeah they only seem to work well on lighter cars mate. Add some more weight and speed into the equation and they're really up against it.

 

[not normal dan]

Yeah they only seem to work well on lighter cars mate. Add some more weight and speed into the equation and they're really up against it.

Yeah I think the overall mass plays a massive part as a standard r26 on track isn't massively faster

 

[imprezaworks]

you sure mate, ?
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/michelin-pilot-sport-cup
only shows 18" and 19"

or do you mean the normal pilot sport 3?

Yeah i meant the road tyres

 

[bozothenutter]

Yeah i meant the road tyres

lol...I was hopefull for a sec...

 

[minimatt1967]

I know I'm well and truly getting ahead of myself on this one, but, my current Civic has got a torsen differential and I do enjoy the feeling of the diff 'working' on roundabouts and tight corners. I see Quaife do an ATB, does anyone run one?:laughing:

 

[NorthloopCup]

I know I'm well and truly getting ahead of myself on this one, but, my current Civic has got a torsen differential and I do enjoy the feeling of the diff 'working' on roundabouts and tight corners. I see Quaife do an ATB, does anyone run one?:laughing:

Gripper also do diffs mate. There's a lot of people on here running both.

 

[minimatt1967]

Gripper also do diffs mate. There's a lot of people on here running both.

Would I be right in saying Gripper are a plate type diff and somewhat more vicious than the ATB?

 

[NorthloopCup]

Would I be right in saying Gripper are a plate type diff and somewhat more vicious than the ATB?

Yeah they're a plate diff, but they're not aggressive if you get them set up properly. They're a better diff in terms of performance over the quaife, but the quaife is a fit and forget item. The gripper will need servicing of the plates.

 

[minimatt1967]

Yeah they're a plate diff, but they're not aggressive if you get them set up properly. They're a better diff in terms of performance over the quaife, but the quaife is a fit and forget item. The gripper will need servicing of the plates.

That's what i like about the Quaife diff, so I'd probably go in that direction.

 

[NorthloopCup]

That's what i like about the Quaife diff, so I'd probably go in that direction.

That's one of the reasons I've got one as well tbh mate. The plates in the grippers have been modified though to reduce the service intervals quite substantially.

 

[Steve]

My main concern s for the brakes, as I said earlier, the Clio I drove last year did muller it's brakes quite quickly, especially compared with the MX5 I also had a go in. That pounded the track all day and the brakes were absolutely spot on, no fade, no obvious signs of wear.

That's one of the many reasons I have been mx5 for 5 years.
Did over 40 full trackdays & never missed a beat.
My Clios were always falling apart with less hammer.

 

[minimatt1967]

That's one of the many reasons I have been mx5 for 5 years.
Did over 40 full trackdays & never missed a beat.
My Clios were always falling apart with less hammer.

If I were to have a devoted track car, it would be an MX5 they just don't seem to care about how much abuse you give 'em. I drove it pretty hard, but my mate, who the '5 belonged to, was just flat out all day and it didn't use any oil or water. That car hadn't been run for 18 months until less than a week before the track day either.
I just can't have dedicated track toy, I have neither the space nor the money to have two cars currently.

 

[Steve]

Mine is my everyday car as well
Recently got a newer model as had my last one give years!

 

[minimatt1967]

Ha, i think the 6 trips too and from school everyday may get a touch costly/tedious/time consuming :wink: