Ph1 172 itb'd on std ECU, page 13 on

[shiftspark]

Hey Russ, 1st off what a good job.
I was going to try and fit some dcoe carbs a while back but decided it wasnt worth the hassle but this looks like a better job.

Just a couple of questions for you ?

Which Jenvey manifold have you used and do you have part numbers so I can price up the bits.

Also the pipe you have used for the Map sensor does it need to be a certain volume.

What about the idle, on the ph1 it uses the black hose that draws air in around the TB, is that what is on the end of the Map "pipe"

Cheers

 

[Russ_16v]

Hi mate,thank you for the kind words

The manifold is the standard Jenvey itb unit for the F4R, i think from memory its part number is MR23. I then used some DCOE to itb adaptors and modified them to fit the DCOE's to the itb manifold.

The volume will effect it overal mate, in fact im getting some different sized ones made up to try, once iv done this il release more info

Your correct, as the standard inlet is removed, the idle control valve is now redundant, there are idle screws on the itb's to make the car idle, so no need for an icv.

The pipe you see on the end of the MAP tank is th take off for the brake servo, I wanted it to come off this more than running it off the inlet manifold as per all other itb kits due to it having a vacuum reading coming off each manifold port, If i ran the brake servo off the manifold also I was worried it might give a false reading off one manifold port.

Thankfully though, taking it off the MAP tank works very well, Iv had this on track recently and it works under hard pressure too.

Have a read of page 13 if you havent had the chance matey, I have pretty pics

 

[shiftspark]

Thanks.
What effects does the different volume have ?

 

[Russ_16v]

Mostly pulse effect mate, the MAP sensor needs a 'clean' reading, if the MAP tank it too small then you get a pulse effect and the MAP readings are incorrect. You also need to make sure there will be no issues with brake servo also.

 

[Russ_16v]

Few photo's from Castle Combe at the weekend

Big thanks to Lyn from Rebel Motorsport for the pictures

 

[ChrisR]

Very cool, been saying for years someone needs to do this with the standard ecu to keep it a bit more factory

Everyone always told me couldn't be done or no point though

 

[Russ_16v]

Yeah same with me mate, suppose it just cant be done

Will be even better once iv tidied up the wiring, making it look more factory

 

[saltyhair81]

power houssssssssssssssse

 

[Russ_16v]

I definately need new brakes lol, but I have 3 business cars to get ready for sale, plus a 4th coming at the weekend so the Clio wont get touched till at least next week

 

[saltyhair81]

4 pots? Bit of a maniac at Combe maybe then? *Whispers* Pagis blues

 

[Russ_16v]

I do like Combe, been driving it for about 12 years or so

Yeah I am a little heavy on them lol, I dont think my bank balance will let me get 4 pots

 

[saltyhair81]

12 years..old timer tbh

No need for the sad face - good set of discs and pads will sort you out - 4pots are good for the progression tho

 

[Russ_16v]

Best place/price for 4 pots?

Yup, im 29 in October, way past it tbh

 

[saltyhair81]

chriiiiist!!! reflexes and reaction times will start packing in soon surely?

oh and ebay is your friend

 

[Russ_16v]

They packed in loooong ago lol

*runs off to look on the bay

 

[saltyhair81]

your calipers are alright though? I've got mine sitting at home still if you need a set

 

[Russ_16v]

Cheers matey, yeah they are fine, I also have a spare set in my garage lol, I love having the best brakes I can, even though mine can get from 100-0 in around 4 secs I can just make them go off after a few hard laps, they still work ok, but not as good as id like

 

[Dan@SJM]

Carbone lorraines your welcome to my calipers once ive got my mahoosive ones on will have to speak to yuou about .:R32 discs

 

[saltyhair81]

lorraines + refurbed wheels = lol

 

[Dan@SJM]

i've had the car resprayed lol. was through the lacquer in places lol. oh and my abs light was on from the iron filings sitting on the sensor lol

 

[Daniel]

I cannot believe how wide the track looks there!!

When you're going through there at 60 it feels half the width of that!

 

[b33fy172]

+1 I do love Combe though!!

 

[Jamie86]

Done suppose they got any pics of my car did they?

 

[Russ_16v]

Carbone lorraines your welcome to my calipers once ive got my mahoosive ones on will have to speak to yuou about .:R32 discs

No worries mate, im sure i can work out some sort of discount lol

Calipers? Txt pls!

I cannot believe how wide the track looks there!!

When you're going through there at 60 it feels half the width of that!

Tell me about it Dan! In the pics, Combe looks so weird! It looks so wide as you said, im haing to pile on loads of lock as it feels like the right hander after this corner feels so tight!

 

[Russ_16v]

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?p=6892898#post6892898

 

[Greeny.]

What you making way for?

 

[Russ_16v]

Not sure yet matey, but iv never had the oppotunity to be able to afford anything better, well anything thats better fun per £, but im lucky to be in that position, and iv got something in mind but you will all have to wait and see...

 

[caister]

I'm in disbelief!

 

[Russ_16v]

I know mate, I never thought id do it.

No interest yet, though it only has been a day lol

 

[Russ_16v]

Back off holiday!

Going out for a drive in a bit

 

[saltyhair81]

brawpy brawps. Probably feel quicker after a break

 

[Russ_16v]

lol iv been using one of the cars iv got at the mo (Bora Tdi) so although torquey, the Clio should feel like a rocket ship

 

[Nafoff]

dan was telling me its up for sale...shame
you better not get what he mentioned....you faggot....lol

 

[Russ_16v]

dan was telling me its up for sale...shame
you better not get what he mentioned....you faggot....lol

<8 you lol


It might not sell yet, if it doesnt then she will stay!

I have got a few things im thinking about....

 

[Russ_16v]

Off out for a drive today

First time in over two weeks

 

[danzman1991]

I'm gonna be buying a Ph1 Clio 172 next February, if it were next Feb right now I would be very very very tempted!

Car looks great man, I love reading through a whole progress threads like this - Car is almost perfect!

 

[Russ_16v]

Cheers fella

Just been out for a good drive, good god iv forgotten how quick it is

 

[Revo Kev]

Russ, good luck with the sale... I doubt you'll be doing anymore testing with the vac canister size then?! (How bad is that waiting for someone else to test stuff!) Do you know what capacity the one you're using is, and did you try any other sizes before you put that one on?! The Jap boys normally say 1/2 capacity of the engine, but that's a big old canister then. I was thinking around 0.75l but yours doesn't look near that!

 

[Russ_16v]

^^ :S That came across a bit funny


I have 2 others that im making atm mate, and yes they will be tried before I sell it and yes I will post my findings!

Edit: It might not be being sold yet.....

 

[Silent_Scone]

others in the making? Wheres mine?

Keep it dude.


Mike