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misfiring badly help!



  172 +Scenic sport
in asda car park today when the car shuddered and cut out, restarted now its really badly misfiring and very noisy rattling noise from inside engine.. managed to get it home and have checked coil pack all plugs sparking fine, what next! compression test? any1 got any suggestions?? im think maybe a snapped valve, broken dephaser pulley?
 
Doesnt sound to good, id recommend you to get a mechanic out or getting it towed to a garge, do not attempt to start the car
 
  PH1 iceburg
How did you get it back home?

The worry is, if it is the cambelt starting the engine again could have been catastrophic.
 
  172 +Scenic sport
drove home misfiring 2 hell! belt only changed bout 4k ago if it had snapped i wouldnt have got home?? just had mechanic round 2 have a look said cud be broken vavle/spring
 
  172 +Scenic sport
would that cause such a rattling noise tho and 2 misfire so badly? from what ive read these arent the usual dephaser symptoms :S
 
  Astra GSI, 172, Golf
rattling noise could be the dephaser, as for the misfire coil pack .. but you say thats tested.
could possibly of dropped a valve but i think you would really know if that was the case. its hard to guess without having a video and being able to hear what kind of noise it is thats being made.
 
  172 +Scenic sport
Think il put it back together after work and make a video to show the problem, don't really wanna keep running the engine tho the state its in. This is gunna be an expensive week!
 
  172 +Scenic sport
aint put it back together yet, think im just gunna get it in the local garage n get it compression tested, im sure its gunna be dropped valve or something else expensive tho grrrrr :(
 
  421 Cammed 172
Nothing at all leading up to the break down?

I had misfires which turned out to be coil pack.

Could possibly be sensors changing the fuelling level, spark plugs, air leak?
 
  172 +Scenic sport
All plugs fine aswell, nothing 2 suggest any problem before it happened n still nothing really 2 suggest what has happened, running on 3 cylinders and very rattlie from inside engine haven't dare start it since it got home tho
 
  172 +Scenic sport
an update so far:-

COIL PACK - OK
PLUG LEADS - OK
SPARK PLUGS - OK

but still only running 3 cylinders - cyclinder 1 is the problem

im hoping someone else has had this problem before??
 
  172 +Scenic sport
Been on rs tuner and no fault codes show up. So this is leading me to valve problem on cylinder 1 by the looks of things....
 
  Blk/Gold 182 FF
i had this problem 2 weeks ago, plugs, leads, pack all fine but the reno specialist i always go to found out it was the injector from one of the cylinders. new injector, job done :)
 
  Bg182 bitsa,thisthat
Well all will be revealed tomorrow, I'll bring few spares just incase it is injector
 
  172 +Scenic sport
That would be excellent mate I'm really hoping its gunna turn out to be something simples and not the rebuild route lol
 
  2004 182FF
My old 1.2 spent ages in and out of garages with cylinder 2 not working. No power... sometimes going into limp mode... sometimes cutting out... rattling like s**t...

Was a blocked injector.
 
  172 +Scenic sport
Massive thanks to infernowen for coming round and doing compression test, turns out its a faulty plug lead even tho I tested them! Strange but true, well I'm very happy it wasn't valve or piston problem tho!
 
  Blk/Gold 182 FF
happy days! I had the same trouble though, even though it was an injector that went on mine, the fault code that came up was ''destructive misfire'' and thats it, no cylinder name, nothing lol talk about useless information ha
 


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