Dephaser

[Johnty h]

As above! I'm not skimping out i just want info on it. Do I have to change this when i do my cambelt water pump etc? If so why? Is it not just like a normal pulley? Why are these cars so bloody fiddly good job it gives me barrels of fun on the tracks. Cheers guys

 

[Chi]

Hi
Its not imperative but I have 2 clios with belts done recently and the dephaser has started to rattle. If you come to resell I imagine it would effect the price..

 

[Johnty h]

Defo wont be getting sold its here to stay haha! Right so sod it I'll do that when I get the cams done in couple months as car runs fine no noises hahahahahaha well it did LOL

 

[Chip-mk1]

Neither the dephasor or the water pump on a 172 really need doing unless they show signs of a problem.
But obviously there is nothing wrong with fitting new as a pre-emptive measure!

 

[Johnty h]

Ohhh i thought that was just standard procedure with any timing kit? Its 25 from euro be stupid not too ey chi

 

[Chi]

£25 for what?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Ohhh i thought that was just standard procedure with any timing kit? Its 25 from euro be stupid not too ey chi

The pump is quite a pain to change, so while the parts might only be 25 quid (for a nasty pattern one) the labour is likely to be more as well but speak to whoever is doing it for you.

I personally would sooner have a 100K mile old gen renault one than a new cheap pattern one though.

 

[Carlv8415]

Always change the dephaser when changing the cambelt, even if it isn't showing any signs of being worn. No point paying £450 for a cambelt change for your dephaser to start making noise and having to rip it all off and do it again.

As for water pumps; it's isn't very common for them to fail, if you want to pay the extra £50 for one them that's fair enough. The water pump is only driven by the aux belt it isn't massively expensive to get it replaced later on down the line

 

[Johnty h]

Ohhh i see i thought it was on the timing! Prob just leave it and 450? Clearly my friends are very kind to me! It's only 150 max for a kit and as for genuine parts mate ive always used euro and never had anything ive replaced re done! That's not me being tight if i was a millionaire id still use euro etc! most parts are as good as renault only dealers stick a massive bill on it only time i use them is if i have to! Cheers for your input guys

 

[MartinR]

Always change the dephaser when changing the cambelt, even if it isn't showing any signs of being worn. No point paying £450 for a cambelt change for your dephaser to start making noise and having to rip it all off and do it again.

As for water pumps; it's isn't very common for them to fail, if you want to pay the extra £50 for one them that's fair enough. The water pump is only driven by the aux belt it isn't massively expensive to get it replaced later on down the line

everyone has been scare mongered into changing the dephaser at every belt service, if servicing has been kept on top of and you know the history they last a long time.




waterpump failure are becoming more common now due to age

 

[MartinR]

Ohhh i see i thought it was on the timing! Prob just leave it and 450? Clearly my friends are very kind to me! It's only 150 max for a kit and as for genuine parts mate ive always used euro and never had anything ive replaced re done! That's not me being tight if i was a millionaire id still use euro etc! most parts are as good as renault only dealers stick a massive bill on it only time i use them is if i have to! Cheers for your input guys

Are you on crack?

 

[Chip-mk1]

On the 197 and 200 version of the F4R engine the water pump is also a cambelt idler, and hence should be changed when the cambelt is changed, perhaps thats where people are getting confused?

 

[Johnty h]

My mechanic will tell me if its worth doing was just after input of clio people. As for am i on crack, dont speak to me like i know you cause comments like that dont go down to well over here! So speak how you expected to be spoken to or dont comment! Simple as that!

 

[MartinR]

flol.

Really, good luck with the car mate.

 

[Carlv8415]

everyone has been scare mongered into changing the dephaser at every belt service, if servicing has been kept on top of and you know the history they last a long time.




waterpump failure are becoming more common now due to age

Not really, I would rather just buy a new one for peace of mind knowing it has been done. Only £150 every 5 years or 72k miles.

 

[Johnty h]

Wasn't being funny there but uncalled for comment pal! It's my money you wanna spunk money in renault pocket thats your choice im stating the snide parts ive always used do the job if its wrong take it back you know that before it's back together anyway. And cheers im sure it will be done by weekend and defo not 450 lighter or i wouldn't be laughing at the mistake i made lol

 

[Carlv8415]

Wasn't being funny there but uncalled for comment pal! It's my money you wanna spunk money in renault pocket thats your choice im stating the snide parts ive always used do the job if its wrong take it back you know that before it's back together anyway. And cheers im sure it will be done by weekend and defo not 450 lighter or i wouldn't be laughing at the mistake i made lol

Dephaser change is up to you, personably I would just get it changed.

 

[Johnty h]

Yeh I'm not a Scrooge if it needs doing it will be done mate, just im gonna cam it in near future so it's all gonna have to be done again anyway if i was rocker fella id do it all now bit i aint so it is what it is. Like i said if people say they get noisey i would know but seems fine. See what mechanic says as he will be doing it both times anyway! Poor sod hahahahaha

 

[Carlv8415]

If it gets noisy you can still drive it just if can be annoying at idle

 

[Johnty h]

Car is rarely idling mate hahaha thanks for your help Carl

 

[imprezaworks]

Really good luck

 

[Tigger]

If you're thinking about having your dephaser done - see my thread

THAT IS ALL

 

[Johnty h]

Ooooops! Nice one buddy

 

[Daniel]

As for am i on crack, dont speak to me like i know you cause comments like that dont go down to well over here! So speak how you expected to be spoken to or dont comment! Simple as that!

You're a bit sensitive aren't you?

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Yeh I'm not a Scrooge if it needs doing it will be done mate, just im gonna cam it in near future so it's all gonna have to be done again anyway if i was rocker fella id do it all now bit i aint so it is what it is. Like i said if people say they get noisey i would know but seems fine. See what mechanic says as he will be doing it both times anyway! Poor sod hahahahaha

You're off you're rocker fella.

 

[Johnty h]

Call it one of my bad days im not always angry haha! Some would say but having such a good friend its not really a massive deal its why we get up each day, to make money to spend it