Ill have a look next time im out in it but i think its pretty poor, its about 35mph in 1st, 55 in 2nd, 3rd i THINK takes it to about 70 80 although im not sure. 3rd gear is pretty s**t as are the remaining 3 gears. Its no where near as fun as my 1.2.
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Clio GT 1.6 (128 Bhp)
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Ill have a look next time im out in it but i think its pretty poor, its about 35mph in 1st, 55 in 2nd, 3rd i THINK takes it to about 70 80 although im not sure. 3rd gear is pretty s**t as are the remaining 3 gears. Its no where near as fun as my 1.2.
Jason_E
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Elise, 530d
Think its around 70/80 mate.
The first gear is pretty long, but the rest are fairly short. It's the same TL4 gearbox as in 197/200. Short, fast and you get to play with it a lot when driving
top of third at the limiter is 83 on the dials.
1st gear is appaulingly short IMO. 4th gear is pointless and 6th needs to be longer. They should have stuck the 138 2L 16v engine from the dynamique in there as it needs the extra torque, 155nm isnt enough IMO.
I bet the twingo RS is so much fun with 5 gears.
The Chubby Pirate
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Golf R
Is this still going lol?
Yes. The GT doesn't seem to be getting a good name out of it either tbh.
Moonlight Blue 225
just out of curiosity which would be faster the gt 1.6, fiesta zetec S or a focus zetec?
Why would a car with fewer gears be more fun?
Twingo RS desperately needs 6th gear, but they couldn't fit in the 6 speed gearbox...
I've driven the Fiesta Zetec S and I would say Clio GT is definitely faster. In fact I've eliminated Fiesta after having a test drive as it didn't impress much.
The Chubby Pirate
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Golf R
tbh the best of the 1600cc's are dead and gone
the gt is faster on paper compared to fiesta its claimed better to drive if you go for a mountune package it will tear the gt to shreds http://www.mountuneperformance.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141&Itemid=58
tbh the best of the 1600cc's are dead and gone
So true. The N/A 1600cc is dead now. Modern cars are too heavy to be genuinely quick with a N/A 1600cc.
Albeit the 2000cc N/A is dead too bar the Clio 200 and CTR i'm stuggling to think of another N/A hot hatch.
bring on the turbos
I'm undecided on turbos. I want to try a properly boosted car. Only driven two a Clio TCE and dci 86 hardly counts as a turbo car.
dont slate the dci86 :dapprove: its fun an pokey
If you like that sort of thing....
i do at 1900rpm its good fun :rasp:
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
pokey, thats like another innuendo for nippy.
Nippy meaning its slow as shat lol..
just messing mate
RS6+ & 40d MSport X5
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Annoying other members Daniella? :nono:pokey, thats like another innuendo for nippy.
Nippy meaning its slow as shat lol..
just messing mate
pokey, thats like another innuendo for nippy.
Nippy meaning its slow as shat lol..
just messing mate
hes not im not claiming its fast id love more power tbh but it does do the job
I don't know what are the price ratios in UK, but Clio GT in Croatia is the cheapest warm hatch in the market, and probably one of the main reasons for the lower price is simple NA engine (compared to Grande Punto 1.4 tjet 120, Peugeot 207 gt 150, Ibiza FR 150 etc...). Those turbos are faster and probably have better fuel consumption, but Clio GT is the easiest way to get into a car which won't be the slowest on the road and have all the cool / sporty gadgets (it is just around 600€ more than the TCE with Exception trim level). If you take a look on Megane III price list, 1.6 16v 110 is more than 1500€ cheaper than the 1.4 tce and that was probably the reason why Renault decided to use Twingo RS's powerplant in the GT. TBH, I think that the tce 130 would work better, but I'm just trying to follow Renault's train of thought
clio rs
im still running mine in
Im getting 35-42mpg frm a 172
I get forgetting the last time a used the pump, i expect anything less than a 1998cc to be good on mpg or better just have an RS
I wasn't slating it mate. Its a good car. What I meant was its not a 250bhp+ and 250lbft+ properly turbo'd car.
it doesnt deserve it.
e/
Actually yes it does, the gearbox seems to be behaving itself now and it seems to have got a little faster, i actually like its short ratios and i dont think its box is too slow either. Defo needs a remap though, ill be popping up to leeds at 3000 miles when its been run in and if i havent killed the car yet. Im starting to smile when i drive it now.
Its got room for improvement, namely the suspension and the need for spacers. Ive got mine ll planned out now
Jason i dont know how hard you drive yours but do you find the back end a little twitchy either under hard braking or going round a corner fast ?
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Jason_E
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Elise, 530d
I don't drive it that hard. But I have had it twitch out when braking (on my route every day theres a sharp bend that leads into a T junction thats often covered in crap). Also If i go over a crest of a hill i get a bit of lift off twitchyness. On roundabouts its fun
Having my GT now for 3 weeks, I'm surprised how similar GT is to Clio RS in character. You have to rev it really high and then it delivers power, the sound (or scream, if you want) and the fun Clio 197 is exactly the same, nothing really happening below 4500, whilst 200 also has some low-end torque so it has more usable power range.
That character you only get with NA 16 valve engine and there were some comments how Renault Sport prefers the NA engines in Twingo RS and Clio RS (and, I guess, Clio GT) because of their immediate response (although modern turbo engines have reduced the turbo lag, there's an inherent latency between pressing the pedal and the "arrival" of power).
The Megane RS having a turbo engine, drives completely different than the Clios or Twingos. There you sort of ride on the "wave" (surge) of torque, turbine whistling behind you and you never really need to go limiter high (can't remember if the R26 even has shift-light).
I only wish my Clio GT had that eagerness to hit the red-line as Twingo RS does. But I guess that's the 5 HP difference and the different intake/ECU map... Btw, does anyone know what exactly are the differences between the Clio GT and the Twingo RS engine?
Clio 197 is exactly the same, nothing really happening below 4500, whilst 200 also has some low-end torque so it has more usable power range. That character you only get with NA 16 valve engine and there were some comments how Renault Sport prefers the NA engines in Twingo RS and Clio RS (and, I guess, Clio GT) because of their immediate response (although modern turbo engines have reduced the turbo lag, there's an inherent latency between pressing the pedal and the "arrival" of power).
The Megane RS having a turbo engine, drives completely different than the Clios or Twingos. There you sort of ride on the "wave" (surge) of torque, turbine whistling behind you and you never really need to go limiter high (can't remember if the R26 even has shift-light).
I only wish my Clio GT had that eagerness to hit the red-line as Twingo RS does. But I guess that's the 5 HP difference and the different intake/ECU map... Btw, does anyone know what exactly are the differences between the Clio GT and the Twingo RS engine?
There is less traction available because that is where mud, leaves etc.
I find you getting so much wheel spin strange though. I manage not to get wheel spin in my 172 which has no TC, is on 15's, has a fair bit more power and torque than the GT and weighs less. Occasionally it will spin if your a bit quick with the clutch.
You'll be on good tyres too with it being brand new, my 1.2 used to spin like mad but that was on unbranded budgets.
Too much trying to race anything that moves :rasp:
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