clio 200 cup vs Focus RS

[Jungle_Jim]

I hope this isnt a repost, i did a search but couldnt find so anyways check out this vid. Got to say the im impressed with how the clio sticks to the RS in the twisties

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[whatisjustis]

When I say 'RE' you say 'POST'.

'RE'...

No harm in watching it again though .

 

[D2501]

Yeah, Focus seems to be all over the place on the corners doesn't it?!

 

[D2501]

Moral of the story - only race Focus RS' on twisty roads

 

[Rocky_24]

0:51 and 2:13 = AMAZING, never seen this before, just had to watch it on mute, will watch it with sound later

 

[whatisjustis]

0:51 and 2:13 = AMAZING, never seen this before, just had to watch it on mute, will watch it with sound later

You must be at work .

 

[D2501]

Lol I also watched this on mute...yes I'm skiving

 

[N0ddie]

@ 1:26- "I mean, you'd never drive like this on the road". Eh? Who wouldn't :rasp:

 

[Rocky_24]

yeah, nothing else to do here atm

 

[GavC]

From a video like this I dont see why folks dislike the 200 :S It was fairly keeping up well and the Focus looked under pressure in the twisties!

I wouldnt have one in green though White with black please

 

[Fletcher]

Of course it's a repost

 

[MarkCup]

Aye, at least it's a good one though.

 

[KMB]

Always worth a watch

 

[Damo_Sport]

that focus RS is proper crud in the corners.. all over the place

 

[Jamie]

Clearly that 200 is a masterpiece.

 

[JayR]

Bloody excellent cars the 200's!

 

[leeds_182]

Whats with all the beeping in the 200?

 

[Jamie]

When you get near the redline it lets you know audibley.

 

[ForceIndia]

There's not a vast difference in ultimate corner speed between a 197/frs. But the focus obliterates it in a straight line, especially accelerating from a slow corner.

 

[leeds_182]

When you get near the redline it lets you know audibley.

Im sure that wouldnt get annoying after a while!

 

[Jamie]

Erm, you may be able to take it off? Not sure? Personally I think it's funky!

 

[Fletcher]

Im sure that wouldnt get annoying after a while!

You should have changed up before the t**t light-beep anyway

 

[Washington]

Moral of the story - only race Focus RS' on twisty roads

everyone knows the only car of choice in the twisties is a renaultsport Clio anyway.

 

[Fletcher]

everyone knows the only car of choice in the twisties is a renaultsport Clio anyway.

Knowsit...I'd still have the new FRS over the 200 everytime mind.

 

[Gorms]

You should have changed up before the tw*t light-beep anyway

Yeah it beeps 200rpm before the rev limiter and I have found If it beeps and I think "oops better change gear" it normally hits the limiter. Very rarely hear mine.

Oh yeah and also been looking at frs's but can't justify the cost at the moment

Gorms

 

[dangle172]

The clio may be slower but dose very well considering these cars ain't even in the same category.
The Megane is in the same category as the focus.
Id like to see a video of a clio pissing all over something in the same category like say.....a fiesta rs!!!

 

[Munson]

In a simliar, more recent video, he was in the Meg 250 and complained that the FRS had left him for dead (which is bullshit) and in this video, the FRS can't get away from the 200 (I can believe it). By that rationale, the 200 is faster than the 250. Or not. Who knows?

The Clio does well, and I can believe it would keep up, but let's not get carried away. Simply PMSL at an FRS being crud in the corners. Have a word with yourself

 

[Lagerlout]

Weight. It's the enemy of everything.

You can't stop physics trying to throw 1400kg off the road. Not even remotely surprised the 200 can carry as much, if not a bit more, corner speed throught the tight stuff.

Great vid though

 

[Munson]

Agree entirely. I know which car I'd rather have been in while they filmed that though

Fifth Gear 'timed' the 182Cup as being quicker than the 200. I bet a 182Cup could have got past the FRS. A 172Cup would have rinsed it eh? Don't get me wrong, the 200 is a fantastic car, and significantly cheaper. I only popped in to counter the comments suggesting that the FRS handles badly. It doesn't.

 

[Ali]

There's only so fast you can go round a bend at the end of the day. Which suggests that both cars are hugely capable! Straighten things out a bit and the focus would be a spec in the distance.

 

[Dave H]

Fifth Gear 'timed' the 182Cup as being quicker than the 200.

I thought the 200 just beat it around the track (last years show)?

 

[Munson]

I thought the 200 just beat it around the track (last years show)?

Yeah sorry I f**ked up. I meant to say that CS suggested it was all fixed, and that the 182Cup was quicker, so would have beaten the FRS in this test, using internet form car logic that is

 

[Gorms]

Yeah sorry I f**ked up. I meant to say that CS suggested it was all fixed, and that the 182Cup was quicker, so would have beaten the FRS in this test, using internet form car logic that is

:lolup: Heh heh Roy you must work in a "can of worms" factory :rasp:

After seeing yours in white and a green one went past me the other day i love the FRS. Really am considering looking into getting one as i get a pretty big forces discount on them but its the fact i have a 200 aswell

Gorms

 

[Louism]

Auto car descriped the Megane and 200 as floating in and out of corners with ease.
They say the focus BLUDGEONS the road into submission.

Gorms, the next car for me is an RS, you can get a 59 plate for 25k atm, if i can put 5k a year away (which shouldnt be a probs as long as i dont get my gf up the duff) i will have one just after my 23rd bday which will be a pressie to myself. Saying that it will be tough to beat the amout of fun i have in mine, It is my fav thing in the world (not including my family gf blah blah...well sometimes my gf...

Regarding handling it is fab they can stick 301 bhp through the front and steer and break, the newest upgrade which brings it to nearly 400bhp makes it wheel spin in third lol.

 

[ForceIndia]

Yeah sorry I f**ked up. I meant to say that CS suggested it was all fixed, and that the 182Cup was quicker, so would have beaten the FRS in this test, using internet form car logic that is

CS didn't suggest it was fixed, the ex-clio cup race driver there did .

I'd take an RS over any Renault. Different gravy tbh.

 

[Louism]

I also think its really funny that people think 5th gear rigged the 182 to lose, what did they have to gain from it?

 

[Munson]

CS didn't suggest it was fixed, the ex-clio cup race driver there did .

I'd take an RS over any Renault. Different gravy tbh.

According to CS. Anyway that's my point. Some say this, some say that. One car is good at this, another is good at that. The cornering speeds of the FRS and 200 would be very similar on normal road tyres (as you say) but IMO the 200 would be more nimble and able to change direction quicker.

How a car drives is more important than some random completely uncontrolled (different driver) race, around a handling course. No one on here would ever drive close to those limits on the road anyway, except the ones who keep crashing, so that brings it down to a blend of entertaining road handling, and track ability. I believe both cars are good at both.

Anyway I'm rambling. As I said, I was merely commenting that the FRS is not a dog in the corners, as had been implied by some people's interpretation of that video. The 200 is half the price and just as quick in that video. Fair play. If all one cares about is speed.

 

[ForceIndia]

I also think its really funny that people think 5th gear rigged the 182 to lose, what did they have to gain from it?

Erm, priority on future tests with Renault? Do you not remember when Ferrari threw a hissy fit and wouldn't lend evo cars because they didn't win COTY?

Exists in all fields, reviews and group tests are very rarely unbiased and genuine. How else do you explain cars like the mk1 FRS, where some mags raved about it and others were utterly cold about it?

It's a feat that people like Renault can build cars with all the modern weight penalties, and barely more power, that can lap at similar pace to an engine with some tin foil and a steering wheel attached.

How you like your speed is personal preference.

 

[Munson]

Auto car descriped the Megane and 200 as floating in and out of corners with ease.
They say the focus BLUDGEONS the road into submission.

I think they're more trying to describe the character of the car overall, rather than outright cornering abilities. It is a very apt description though.

 

[ForceIndia]

Anyway I'm rambling. As I said, I was merely commenting that the FRS is not a dog in the corners, as had been implied by some people's interpretation of that video. The 200 is half the price and just as quick in that video. Fair play. If all one cares about is speed.

Couldn't agree more. I've been on track with a very poorly driven FRS, and it still just disappeared on the back straight, incredibly rapid.
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