182cup & 172 racecar
if i feel like it you might
Keep away from the greasy burger van and you will
Dinners on me tonight.
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Burpspeed Version 2: Race Car Build
- Thread starter Jay Payne
- Start date
Keep away from the greasy burger van and you will
Dinners on me tonight.
Evo 5 RS
damn those burger ladies
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
i know you guys have tinkered with your blowers so thought i may aswell ask.
the 2 pipes that go into the blowers, do you know where these go? i don't have any pictures to show me and am not near the car, just thinking what i will need to do with them, should i loose the blowers.
the 2 pipes that go into the blowers, do you know where these go? i don't have any pictures to show me and am not near the car, just thinking what i will need to do with them, should i loose the blowers.
182cup & 172 racecar
When we get it in the car yes.
182cup & 172 racecar
Thats what we are hoping,well 1-2secs would be nice.Going to try and test it Mallory before we go to Brands as we have times for Mallory,as long as its dry.
Evo 5 RS
I bet you're like a wee boy at Christmas,
I'll have to come to Brands now \o/
I'll have to come to Brands now \o/
182cup & 172 racecar
Sort of.I just want to get in the bloody thing and drive it now,it's been too long a break.
Golf GTD Mk7
That would be good. Integra in the sights now? I presume it's mainly going to be low speed corners where it will count, so it'll most likely be track dependant.
182cup & 172 racecar
So many corners were we were having to wait to get the power down it was a nightmare really, and frustrating.
Saab 93 Aero Wagon
At least you've driven yours! I'm getting seriously impatient waiting for our car now.....maybe I should actually help Tom build it..
Sir_Dave
ClioSport Trader
lol. Grumpy Ollie. I'll probably have a race car before you do .....
Re: the Quaife though. Perhaps im odd in thinking this, but if i was building something to compete in, i'd buy a decent diff pretty much before anything else!! Whats the point in having the power of ITB's and cams and barely any weight, if you cant get it onto the tarmac?
Clio.
You won't feel a major difference using a Quaife ATB like you would with a Locking diff like a Gripper.
You should see a difference in lap times agreed, with a slight difference in driving style, but remember bouncing over curbs/lifting a driven wheel and the ATB diff will revert back to an open diff and spin the power away, which is a disadvantage over a locker.
The advantages of an ATB, is that you don't get so much 'kick back' when using a non-pas set up and you probably don't have to fwaff about, shortening the N/S driveshaft, like I had to with our R5 GT Turbo racers.
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports.
You should see a difference in lap times agreed, with a slight difference in driving style, but remember bouncing over curbs/lifting a driven wheel and the ATB diff will revert back to an open diff and spin the power away, which is a disadvantage over a locker.
The advantages of an ATB, is that you don't get so much 'kick back' when using a non-pas set up and you probably don't have to fwaff about, shortening the N/S driveshaft, like I had to with our R5 GT Turbo racers.
Matt@CodeRedMotorsports.
172 Race Car
Not quite sure what you are asking mate. Our heater matrix and pipes are as per standard
172 Race Car
Problem is we have made other changes since we last run at Mallory and its been resurfaced. The championships that have been there this year have gone quicker than 2010.
That is a natural thing that cars go quicker year after year, if you look back at the tintops laptimes for the last few years, the times we were doing last season would of been near the front a few years back. You need to improve to stand still.
So difficult to say exactly how much we can put down to the diff.
As long as its quicker and well balanced we will be happy.
172 Race Car
We know that its not the ultimate diff we could of bought but its a fit and forget part. And better than standard. We dont really go bouncing over kerbs that much, our main problem was slow 2nd gear stuff. Got left for dead by stuff with 30bhp less than us in the traction zones. End of straight we were as quick as anyone. the driveshaft issue worried us as did the need for maintainance (at some point)
172 Race Car
your not odd (well maybe just a bit
) the reason we didnt do it during the build was down to cost, plain and simple. The other Clio's in the series dont have them either. It was always on the to do list. if we'd of put a diff in it last year we would of only had the budget to do 4 races. Id rather be racing something.
Golf GTD Mk7
Sadev
I'm sure it will make a big difference Jay. Better traction on slow corners opens you up to overtaking more so fingers crossed for both of you. I hear what you're saying though. Depend how much more the competitors have changed. You not thinking of cams yet, or would that put you outside the power limits?
172 Race Car
No limits on power. we can have what ever we like as long as its still NA and original engine. We are not lacking in top end speed. yes more power would make us quicker over a lap but were still working on the cars setup to make it quicker in a race.
Not planning on any engine mods (internal) like cams. Really not the way we want to go budget wise
Not planning on any engine mods (internal) like cams. Really not the way we want to go budget wise
TrackCar & F30 330d
How soon would you have to carry out maintenance on a gripper diff? After a seasons racing?
Golf GTD Mk7
I think sadev is gripper type and that needs oil change every race iirc. That might be more down to sequential gears though
172 Race Car
yea generaly a box with a plate diff will need regualr oil changes as the plates wear all the s**t ends up in the oil
Clio.
Depends on how often you break it....
I popped a gripper in the yellow R5 and its done two seasons of TTRS and about 4 trackdays/shakedowns so far.
182cup & 172 racecar
Its just another expense we can do without(oh the diff needs rebuilding this year)As Jay said,during the build if we had bought one,we could only afford to do about 4 races.No brainer really.
The standard engine is plenty quick enough atm.
FRED at BTM = HERO corner weighted at last.
The standard engine is plenty quick enough atm.
FRED at BTM = HERO corner weighted at last.
172 Race Car
In the ideal world we would of rebuild our dampers for this season. But they only did 12 hours last year so we didnt.
Maybe its because were older (wiser) but we spend our money on running/driving/racing the thing. Its all about making it reliable and cheaper to run first. speed comes second.
Powder coated digital camshafts do none of that.
Maybe its because were older (wiser) but we spend our money on running/driving/racing the thing. Its all about making it reliable and cheaper to run first. speed comes second.
Powder coated digital camshafts do none of that.
Evo 5 RS
making sure it all works my arse not long now
not long now
182cup & 172 racecar
nice
Superb is one of the words I can use,and now with diff in,in nearly disappeared up it's own exhaust pipe,nearly took my mates van out though.
Golf GTD Mk7
182cup & 172 racecar
Cold brakes,good job it doesn't pull to one side.
R26
Can't wait to hear how this feels at the first race. Or sooner
Looking forward to Wednesday Tony
Looking forward to Wednesday Tony
Nafoff
ClioSport Club Member
very nice lads,
boys done good...
do like the lights in black,
boys done good...
do like the lights in black,
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