budget polisher?? any suggestions neeed one asap

[todd100]

as above any suggestions??

 

[JD]

The usual, really, so the DAS-6, Porter Cable or Megs G220;

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polis...220-dual-action-polishing-machine/cat_70.html

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/polishing-machines/das-6-dual-action-polisher/cat_71.html

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004SUQ8/?tag=cliospnet01-21

 

[fUbAr]

It's likely to cost you the same again in products, cloths & accessories.

 

[JD]

At least, Dan

 

[fUbAr]

Which is the only reason I havent bought one yet

 

[JD]

Which is the only reason I havent bought one yet

http://www.auburn.edu/~vestmon/xmas_cnt.htm

 

[todd100]

what are the halfrauds jobbies like?? the sort of 35 quid ones?

 

[JD]

I was waiting for that.

They don't polish. Waste of money.

 

[todd100]

so if i dont want to spend much money on one then dont waste my money on a cheap one?

 

[JD]

Precisely.

 

[todd100]

so what actually is the problem with these cheap ones not working? surely it is the pads that are the problem not machine?

 

[JD]

so what actually is the problem with these cheap ones not working? surely it is the pads that are the problem not machine?

Nope, the other way around lad. The machines don't have the power/torque to build the required heat to make the polishes break down. Therefore the polishes don't work, regardless of the pads.

 

[todd100]

i will live with swirley paintwork then

 

[nickg123]

Buy cheap buy twice as they say

 

[todd100]

hmm fair point, i only wanna just get rid of some swirl marks not mega into detailing, prob would be if i had the time and money

 

[McBunny]

anyone want a silverline rotary for cheap

 

[todd100]

anyone want a silverline rotary for cheap

pics and how much??

 

[McBunny]

i wouldnt recommend it for a new user really (hence im selling it lol)

 

[todd100]

ok fair enough

 

[McBunny]

random orbital is the way to go much easier so im told no fear of burning through the paint

 

[ro55o]

I'll be selling a DAS-6 at the weekend (Once I've photos and the like). Just don't use it now I've got the mondeo.

Anyway to stay on track, don't bother with the cheapy crap from halfrauds, the DAS-6 or G220 would be best for someone new to machine polishing.

 

[JD]

How much Mike?

 

[McBunny]

for what the content of pm or the polisher ?

polisher £20 inc delivery ?

 

[Jonny1*2]

The silverline is a great bit of kit for the money. It is harder to use though as it has a habbit of running away from you on the panels depending on the curves. DA are much easier, but you'll not get as good results and it takes longer to use it. you'll not burn through the paint that easily. So long as you're patient, and don't put too much pressure on it you'll be fine.

 

[todd100]

I'll be selling a DAS-6 at the weekend (Once I've photos and the like). Just don't use it now I've got the mondeo.

Anyway to stay on track, don't bother with the cheapy crap from halfrauds, the DAS-6 or G220 would be best for someone new to machine polishing.

how much for the das-6???

 

[guysy]

Ive got a blue silverline, Only really used it for small panels and scratch repair,

I havent had time to do a full car but have the girlfriends car and grandfathers car to practice on soon

Is quite heavy and not a particularly slow start, but its done a fair bit of work for me well.

 

[martijn_b]

Id say go with a DAS6-PRO (the 880 watt version) if you just want to do it right the first time.

Altho, the 30 quid D/A polishers will not give you the same results as the DAS-6's, but they have a 450watt motor which is enough to break down Poorboys SSR2 or Meguiars M105/205 or Menzerna/Monello.
It will not give you the same correction as a more expensive DAS, but if you just don't want to spend a lot on a polisher and your standards are not that high, they are actually a pretty good alternative (for the regular joe).

See this topic on detailing world for more info:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=83874&page=1

Ofcourse, when you really get "into detailing" there are much, much better options..

 

[JD]

Id say go with a DAS6-PRO (the 880 watt version) if you just want to do it right the first time.

Altho, the 30 quid D/A polishers will not give you the same results as the DAS-6's, but they have a 450watt motor which is enough to break down Poorboys SSR2 or Meguiars M105/205 or Menzerna/Monello.
It will not give you the same correction as a more expensive DAS, but if you just don't want to spend a lot on a polisher and your standards are not that high, they are actually a pretty good alternative (for the regular joe).

See this topic on detailing world for more info:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=83874&page=1

Ofcourse, when you really get "into detailing" there are much, much better options..

They actually don't polish. Their intended use is actually the removal of filler polishes and LSPs.

 

[martijn_b]

What makes it that they not polish JD?

 

[JD]

What makes it that they not polish JD?

The lack of heat build up to break down the polish and the lack of torque from the motors. This means they just bog down when any sort of pressure is applied, usually ending up in the motors burning out.

 

[todd100]

The lack of heat build up to break down the polish and the lack of torque from the motors. This means they just bog down when any sort of pressure is applied, usually ending up in the motors burning out.

surely they are still better than polishing by hand?

 

[JD]

surely they are still better than polishing by hand?

Not really, because they break very easily and there is no control.

Either hand polish or spend on a decent polisher.

 

[todd100]

Not really, because they break very easily and there is no control.

Either hand polish or spend on a decent polisher.

ok any tips on hand polishing?

 

[JD]

http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk/acatalog/what-does-polishing-do.html

 

[todd100]

ok thanks jd, is ag srp a good polish to use as a beginner then?

 

[martijn_b]

SRP is a filler heavy product and won't actually really polish. I'd say go for poorboys SSR 2 with a lake country white (or orange) hand pad to polish with if you really want to remove some swirls. Top that with a filler heavy glaze like ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze or Poorboys Black Hole (or super resin polish) to hide the rest of the imperfections, since hand polishing wont give you a 100% flawless result.

@JD-> I've got donated a cheap polisher like we discussed above and will try it out some time, so i can speak from first hand experience. On Detailing World they seem to be less sceptical though.

 

[todd100]

SRP is a filler heavy product and won't actually really polish. I'd say go for poorboys SSR 2 with a lake country white (or orange) hand pad to polish with if you really want to remove some swirls. Top that with a filler heavy glaze like ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze or Poorboys Black Hole (or super resin polish) to hide the rest of the imperfections, since hand polishing wont give you a 100% flawless result.

@JD-> I've got donated a cheap polisher like we discussed above and will try it out some time, so i can speak from first hand experience. On Detailing World they seem to be less sceptical though.

ok is there any polishes that i would get from halfrauds that are better than srp? i cant be bothered to wait on postage. i have some meguires scratch x but this is a bit abrasive isnt it?

 

[JD]

ok thanks jd, is ag srp a good polish to use as a beginner then?

SRP as said above is a filler polish. It does still polish as it contains cutting particles. However, it is by no mean a swirl corrector, more a masker of.

SRP is a filler heavy product and won't actually really polish. I'd say go for poorboys SSR 2 with a lake country white (or orange) hand pad to polish with if you really want to remove some swirls. Top that with a filler heavy glaze like ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze or Poorboys Black Hole (or super resin polish) to hide the rest of the imperfections, since hand polishing wont give you a 100% flawless result.

@JD-> I've got donated a cheap polisher like we discussed above and will try it out some time, so i can speak from first hand experience. On Detailing World they seem to be less sceptical though.

I agree, but have personal preference to Menzerna 203s with the same hand pads

I am very happy to have my scepticisms put to rest lad

ok is there any polishes that i would get from halfrauds that are better than srp? i cant be bothered to wait on postage. i have some meguires scratch x but this is a bit abrasive isnt it?

No, sadly. SRP is the only one. There are others out there, but none of them will safely remove swirls.

Megs Scratch X and Scratch Xii is far too abrasive, even by hand, for swirl correction.

 

[martijn_b]

If you would have ordered today, it should have arrived probably the 1st or 2nd of december already!
Id say do it right and get a good hand polish from a detailing shop and not halfords, otherwise just stick with the SRP.

@JD-> Since my English isn't what it should be, i don't understand what "scepticisms put to rest lad" means, but seeing the smiley next to it I take it as a nice comment lol

 

[todd100]

If you would have ordered today, it should have arrived probably the 1st or 2nd of december already!
Id say do it right and get a good hand polish from a detailing shop and not halfords, otherwise just stick with the SRP.

im gonna stick to srp for now and see how i get on