Black DCI 65 Daily

[Robiniho77]

Hi Gents,

Back on here with my 5th Clio.

Previously owned a:

- 172 Cup
- DCI 100
- Black Ph1 172
- £250 DCI 65

And now this £420 DCI 65:

As you can see, it’s a 5 door 65 dynamique 2005. 137,000 miles with a recent clutch and gearbox replacement. Decent enough history.

Won it on eBay after missing out on it the previous week for £740. Guy never turned up, it was relisted and I offered the guy £650 to take it off. He declined and I then won it for £420 (go figure).

Battled the closed M42 yesterday to pick it up from North Birmingham and got it back to Southampton after an 8 hour round trip.

It’s alrite to be fair. Needs new discs and pads and the interior stinks. It’ll get a MOT and service next week. Body work is fantastic for the age and mileage (better than my 2011 Megane).

Plans are:

- Sport Interior fitted
- 172 non CC wheel (for now until I can brave the retro fit)
- MOT
- Service

Questions currently:

- Is the heater panel the same as the Sports? (I need a new one)
- Does the sport bumpers fit a 5 door without some modification? (I presume it’s BG in colour?)
- Does the standard steering wheel airbag fit in the 172 wheels?

Thoughts and comment always welcome

Cheers

Liam

 

[Austin-182]

Looks clean, Liam. Loads if Dci’s on here lately.

Only question i can answer is the bumpers, they fot straight on, but would need the feont wings too. Its the side skirts that would need modification. And it wont be BG, thats a 182 colour only.

 

[Djw John]

It'll be pearl black, 172s came in it so easy enough to get

 

[Robiniho77]

So it turns out that it had more history than was stated (why you wouldn’t tell people in an advert but...):

All in year order now with some stamps also in the book from new

I’ve ordered a full service kit and some front discs and pads.

Got a 182 interior to pick up this weekend. Unsure what to do about the rear door cards (5dr problems) but guess they’ll have to stay standard.

Going to tackle cleaning the EGR out this evening to at least do one job off the list.

MOT next week with the discs and pads fitted for it. As long as it’s not a ridiculous bill to get it through I’ll do the service afterwards!

 

[K4M_clio]

Standard airbag will fit, done the same thing, you want a wheel from a 172cup so they have no cc buttons

 

[Robiniho77]

Standard airbag will fit, done the same thing, you want a wheel from a 172cup so they have no cc buttons

Thanks for this. Could you also just fit the 172 cup wheel with its airbag still intact?

 

[K4M_clio]

No there's a t50 torque bolt behind airbag, plenty of how to videos on YouTube I was worried about airbag but was an easy job

 

[Robiniho77]

So I tackled the EGR valve cleaning and charge pipe. Followed this guide on YouTube:

Was pretty straight forward for anyone with some mechanical knowledge.

EGR was a little sooty:

And then after a clean:

Also the charge pipe was worse:

All in all it was worth while exercise and hopefully will keep things clear for a while.


Noticed this plug was missing:

But think it’s blanked off... the YouTube video showed his DCI 65 with a plug to remove there? I had no spare wires.


Also had a huge screeching from a belt on and off almost like clockwork every 10-15 seconds... not sure what gets worn on these? Any advice?

Thanks


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[Brigsy]

Looks like a tidy dci? That hole is blank in the dci65 pipe, the sensor is in the boost hose from memory.

Egr looks as clean as they get wouldnt have bothered cleaning it, they usually stay like that with a good thrashing once a week ?

 

[Austin-182]

Wish my EGR looked that clean when i took mine off lol. Mine was filled full of crap. Interestingly though, my pipe was pretty clean so the opposite of what you have found with your egr / pipe.

Does it need the cambelt and drive belt changing?

 

[Robiniho77]

Wish my EGR looked that clean when i took mine off lol. Mine was filled full of crap. Interestingly though, my pipe was pretty clean so the opposite of what you have found with your egr / pipe.

Does it need the cambelt and drive belt changing?

Yeah strange way round, the pipe was shocking compared to the valve!

Quite possibly with the belts, yes! I was thinking that was possibly causing the screeching but hard to diagnose.

The cambelt was done years ago so going to have to suck that cost up ASAP. Water pump and drive belt at the same time I’m guessing!


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[Austin-182]

Yeah strange way round, the pipe was shocking compared to the valve!

Quite possibly with the belts, yes! I was thinking that was possibly causing the screeching but hard to diagnose.

The cambelt was done years ago so going to have to suck that cost up ASAP. Water pump and drive belt at the same time I’m guessing!


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I had a price for everything from Renault Wolverhampton for just £127. Genuine Renault parts. Cambelt, tensioners etc, waterpump, 5ltr coolant and drive belt. If you can do it yourself or know someone who will help it will work out a cheap major service.

 

[Martin_172]

A dci more door... My favourite!!!! Good buy

 

[Robiniho77]

So progress is slow due to work commitments and gathering necessary parts for the MOT / general clean up.

Sourced some front discs and pads from @Mazz who’s a absolute gent! As soon as there here it’ll go in for it’s MOT and we can find out what else it will need.

Last advisory was ‘play in steering rack inner joints’. And I’m guessing this is why the steering is so vague. Will wait and see what they come back with!

Trying to sort out the interior bits out as well. The car stinks of oil weirdly but think it’s because the seats / interior has had some van or work use.

This evening I managed to take off the 2005 fitted towbar. The bolts were horrendous and with keeping the rear bumper on, it was difficult to get some movement on the ratchet.

Had a good helper (even though he was looking in the middle)

The electric connector on the towbar though has some well rusted nuts and I’m struggling to open it up so I can disconnect the wiring.

Loads of WD40 ect. but the screw has a flat head on top which makes life annoying.

Should I persist or just got the wire inside by the light cluster?

It’s all wired in so not sure what it will do to that circuit however...

Thanks to everyone who’s sent PMs of help and advice or replied to the thread. Always loved the community here and glad to see it’s still thriving!

Cheers

Liam


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[Brigsy]

Tow bar wiring probably tapped into rear cluster, follow wire and remove it at the source.

 

[Robiniho77]

Tow bar wiring probably tapped into rear cluster, follow wire and remove it at the source.

Yeah it is! I followed it back there and it was a bit of a mess!! I would of liked to just remove it but it’s been bodged in by the looks of it...

Might have to spend some time in daylight looking at the wiring that comes from down the car to the cluster originally and then what someone’s done with this towbar!


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[Robiniho77]

Tried to find out some info on the sport interior when fitting it to a 5 door.

I’m guessing that none of the door cards will fit due to the 3 door doors being larger and obviously there being no rear doors...

The carpet? Or is the floor plan different?

So I would only be able to fit the front seats, rear bench and upright?

TIA

Liam


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[Louis]

Carpets same seats same

 

[Robiniho77]

Carpets same seats same

Thanks for this, I thought so but trying to find a 5 door reps with any specifics on interior was difficult!!


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[Louis]

Thanks for this, I thought so but trying to find a 5 door reps with any specifics on interior was difficult!!


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Dynamique door cards are pretty close to sport ones tbf

 

[Crayola]

I have some 172 seats and carpet in Doncaster, it's a fair journey for you though

 

[Robiniho77]

I have some 172 seats and carpet in Doncaster, it's a fair journey for you though

Ah mate, thanks for the offer lol. The wife wasn’t happy me picking this one up from Birmingham let alone trecking for parts!


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[Robiniho77]

Picked up this spare wheel this evening though with a almost new tyre...

Typical when you go in the boot and there is nothing in the spare wheel well.

Not sure what Renault model it was from but it will do for £15 to sit in there.


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[Robiniho77]

So the collecting of bits continues:

Heater Panel in the car currently

And the second hand one for £15

Then was my front brake situation. The discs and pads arrived from @Mazz in a Maserati box [emoji6] thanks again to him!

And I cleaned out the scuttle drains, which were pretty good to be honest. (Makes me think someone has looked after this car as my last ones were awful)

Will get the brakes changed and it MOT’d


Then try to work out why all 4 tyres (which are basically new) are leaking air slowly...


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[Mazz]

That spare wheel you got is an Equation style rim from Privilege trim clios, I've seen them on mk1 meganes as well.

Tires leaking could be corrosion or tire residue on the beads, quite common on cheap cars.

It's a visit to the tire garage im afraid, as you have to pop the beads, grind off whatever is causing the beads to not seal and maybe even a quick lick of bead sealer.

 

[Robiniho77]

So, the car went through it’s MOT after fitting the front discs and pads!

Advisories were a front tyre was getting low and a wiper blade! Spot on for £420...

Swapped out the boot lock solenoid as the boot wasn’t locking with the car...

Did the trick and was an easy swap!

Then started tackling removing the interior (as it was MOT’d and didn’t have to move anywhere for a while as I collated the final bits).

As all my Clios, the bolts that go into the chassis rust from the underside and so are a pain to get out! The Isofix bar first, then the central rear upright bracket bolts.

They have a star head and you struggle to get any real angle to turn it due to the bracket. One I managed, then the second head rounded.

Ended up angle grinding the seats away from the brackets (in frustration) then attempted to molegrip the head and get the last one out. Pain in the a** being a rusted old bolt anyway, let alone trying to use the grips but got there eventually and it’s slowly all coming out.

Few more bits to collect this week hopefully for the interior. Then a weekend of fitting it out.

Still after a replacement for this... dunno if there’s a genuine original on eBay or something? I’m not even sure what it looked like...

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[Robiniho77]

Still making progress removing all the interior... minus the one bolt that’s still stuck in...

Cleaned all the carpets and seatbelts at the weekend I’d collated:

Before starting:

During for the seatbelts:

And here she is on the drive:

Still feeling the love just time collecting parts and time to sort them out! Working towards getting her ready to be a nice daily drive but don’t want to go full time with it till it’s ‘acceptable’.

Once the interior is all sorted and the tyres fixed, I’ll start using it daily and add some more miles to the 137,000.

After a Cigarette lighter unit and a gear knob insert right now incase anyone reading has one spare!


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[Robiniho77]

A little bit of weekend time and a day off today saw some more progress being made.

It’s amazing what a different car it feels like with clean and smart interior swapped.

I’ve been cleaning EVERYTHING with either upholstery cleaner or anti bacterial wipes lol! But it does make it feel so much nicer to be in!

From this:

To:

Front seats only this left to fit now! (And the annoying central nuts near)

Also changed my heater control panel which was awful!

And the new one plus my aux which I did at the same time it was all out!

Have Friday off so hopefully will get the front seats done and also my 172 wheel fitted, then it’s just 3 new tyres and she’ll be good to run as the daily!

Cheers for reading

Liam


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[Robiniho77]

So, to keep updating this for myself! (I guessed a 5 door dci wouldn’t be that appealing)

Changed the steering wheel today to my 172 one! Was actually a doddle. Followed the guide on here and took all of 15 minutes! Another big improvement!

Old: stick and dirty no matter what you did to clean it.

New: decent thumb grips and in pretty minty condition!

Annoyingly the 182 seatbelts don’t attach to the car like my dci ones so I’ve got a set of useless 182 belts all cleaned up.

My dci ones had a metal clip on the end of the belt but the 182 ones don’t have anything. What am I missing to attach them?


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[Mazz]

Best way I found to clean a nasty steering wheel is to just keep washing your hands and drive. After two or three months it pretty much cleans itself lol mine was gross !

 

[Robiniho77]

More progress:

Sorted my cigarette lighter unit so that’s now working and fitted the most of the sport interior. Temporary gear knob insert:

And these arrived:

4 182 wheels with almost new tyres, £100.

There’s bargains out there for these daily’s.

All that’s really left now is probably some springs just to sit it a bit nicer on these wheels for now then get it on the road and use it.

Any recommendations for springs? Can you fit 1*2 ones? Or is there not much ride height difference?

Cheers for reading


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[Martin_172]

172/182 Eibachs fit nicely...

 

[Brigsy]

Looks well, mine is on cliosport eibach sportline too and drives great. Bang some cup rear shocks on if not already fitted, makes quite a difference.

 

[Robiniho77]

They look spot on fellas!! And rear shocks yeah? Not fronts?


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[Brigsy]

They look spot on fellas!! And rear shocks yeah? Not fronts?


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Rear cup shocks go straight on, cant get away with fronts sadly. Mine is on sachs oem replacement on the front as originals were knackered, seem ok for road use.

 

[Robiniho77]

Rear cup shocks go straight on, cant get away with fronts sadly. Mine is on sachs oem replacement on the front as originals were knackered, seem ok for road use.

Super thanks buddy!! Are the 172 cup rear shocks the same as the 182 cup pack ones?


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[Brigsy]

Super thanks buddy!! Are the 172 cup rear shocks the same as the 182 cup pack ones?


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Not much difference from memory, mine are 172cup. They are a few mm shorter than the dci shocks so stops any chance of springs falling out.

 

[Robiniho77]

Not much difference from memory, mine are 172cup. They are a few mm shorter than the dci shocks so stops any chance of springs falling out.

Thanks mate!!

New wheels seem a right fit...

They’re just 16” 182 wheels

Do they foul at all on the bottom of the spring cup when in use?


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[Brigsy]

Mine is on 15s so no idea mate ill be honest

 

[Crayola]

I had 16" on and it wont foul there as the suspension travel is in the shock not in the wheel+shock

The wheel and shocker move as one unit essentially

EDIT: Unless the tyres are a 50 profile on the sidewall. Then they'll definitely rub without spacers