Best cage I've seen installed in a Clio, amazing

[shiyan]

From far it doesn't seem out of the ordinary

but then look at the A pillar

cage connected to the rear strut tops

AC was replaced by cold air coming through a tube which went from the grille and out of the airvent

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

I could not be f**ked with that as a daily

As eye candy, yeah why not

 

[shiyan]

I could not be f**ked with that as a daily

As eye candy, yeah why not

That's obviously not a daily...

It's the only cage I've seen in a Clio which compares to ones used by racecars in the 24H race:

 

[Tony Hunter]

They are only plates that you buy and weld on,they are not part of the cage at all.

http://www.customcages.co.uk/roll-cages/accessories/front-screen-gusset-(pair)

 

[Fletcher]

Why would you go to all that effort stripped out, cage etc.. and keep the standard VERY heavy 5 spokes wheels? :S

 

[105e]

maybe they are his road wheels

 

[Craigus]

It has a tw@t strip.

 

[Jimbo-Clio]

Nice cage as tony sais they might be weld ones
Looks quite un tidy if it is a daily
CAF to the drivers seat is the driver made of ITG tri foam?

 

[f0xy]

The gussets just link the cage to the shell in an attempt to eliminate any movement between the two...

 

[chriscummins7]

It has a tw@t strip.

This!

So much effort on the cage and stripping etc... to be let down with standard wheels and a horrific sun strip.

 

[The Boosh!]

It has a tw@t strip.

This!

So much effort on the cage and stripping etc... to be let down with standard wheels and a horrific sun strip.

It has a t**t strip so he could get rid of the sun visors. as i'm guessing it's really stripped out he has not roof liners/sun visors - hence the t**t strip.

 

[Tony Hunter]

We have a tw*t strip and standard wheels,oh dear what a f**king shame.
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?467333-Burpspeed-Version-2-Race-Car-Build/page42

 

[pritchard182]

This!

So much effort on the cage and stripping etc... to be let down with standard wheels and a horrific sun strip.

mabe he has taken his sum visors out to cut down on weight hence the sun strip doubt its meant for show's lol cs haters love em

 

[The Spaniard]

You can replace all those gussets with one bolt to the pillar. Just unecessary weight.

Colin Chapman - 'simplify and lighten'

 

[The Spaniard]

Why would you go to all that effort stripped out, cage etc.. and keep the standard VERY heavy 5 spokes wheels? :S

Because heavier wheels are usually stronger? Not everyone wants the lightest wheels possible. I dont see many rally cars running superleggeras, because they wouldnt last 2 mins into a stage. If you use heavier wheels you can ride curbs harder.

 

[The Spaniard]

It has a t**t strip so he could get rid of the sun visors. as i'm guessing it's really stripped out he has not roof liners/sun visors - hence the t**t strip.

You cant fit sun visors into most cars with a cage, hence you use a sun strip to ...er....keep the sun out of your eyes.

Pretty simple concept if you start to think beyond the tesco and maccy D car park scenario.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Keeps the sun out and we sold it for advertising

 

[theduck]

Because heavier wheels are usually stronger? Not everyone wants the lightest wheels possible. I dont see many rally cars running superleggeras, because they wouldnt last 2 mins into a stage. If you use heavier wheels you can ride curbs harder.

Dont most rally cars use magnesium wheels which are stupidly light? Serious question

 

[VeinAST]

Any more pics of the E30 M3 in front?

 

[f0xy]

You can replace all those gussets with one bolt to the pillar. Just unecessary weight.

Colin Chapman - 'simplify and lighten'

Yeah, because 500 grammes (if that) is really going to make a difference. They are not made from 5mm plate steel ffs.

 

[theduck]

Oh and as for that being an amazing cage... you obviously havent seen this

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?490838-BTCC-Clio&highlight=

 

[The Spaniard]

Yeah, because 500 grammes (if that) is really going to make a difference. They are not made from 5mm plate steel ffs.

So why in your project thread have you removed items that weight less than this to save weight?

 

[pritchard182]

because every little helps, tesco style

 

[The Spaniard]

Dont most rally cars use magnesium wheels which are stupidly light? Serious question

I doubt many private owners use magnesium wheels due to cost. But the argument is erroneous because it is not just the type of metal that is imortant it is the structure and what happens during manufacturing.

You might be able to for example, make a thicker spoke from a lighter metal and still have an increase in strength with a decrease in weight. Different metals will aslo behave in different ways on impact.

However, for a basic private rally car, i think you will find that most experienced drivers have learnt that you need a certain strength to the wheels. You cant just fit the lightest wheels you can find like you would do if you were racing the 1/4 mile or going down tesco for a cruise.

 

[f0xy]

So why in your project thread have you removed items that weight less than this to save weight?

And they would be? I removed those things because they were of no use, whereas the ~500gramme of gussets have some use.

You also say use a bolt to the shell, into a non existant bolt hole, yeah? A bolt and nut welded on probably weigh more than the entire gusset to be fair. Also, whats stopping the shell flexing at the top and bottom either side of the 'bolt' - absolutely nothing. If the 'bolt' method was so brilliant, explain to me why nearly every BTCC and WRC car dont use this great method?

 

[PYE21]

You can replace all those gussets with one bolt to the pillar. Just unecessary weight.

Colin Chapman - 'simplify and lighten'

Do you seriously think that 1 M10 10.9 bolt can provide the same amount of rigidity and strength as a 400mm 3mm steel plate stich welded at 15-20mm gaps, oh dear.

And the t**t strip comments make me laugh, try driving a caged car in the summer without one.

 

[shiyan]

Hehe I sort of gave up when people did not notice that's the 'Ring carpark and started going off on the strip and standard wheels, and how it would suck as a daily driver

But it doesn't have turinis! The horror! ROFL

 

[chriscummins7]

maybe serves a purpose... but why the stupid chavvy renault sport decals.
Needs a tw@t strip, leave it plain. In my opinion of course

 

[Ralphizzle]

What Tony said!

Still it's at the best place in the World! Nordschleife, Nürburgring!

Remember this sh*t at christmas!

 

[CCrispUK]

white nissan GTR in the background, lush.

 

[shiyan]

Looks like it was made by Custom Cages, fitted cost is £2086.10 + TAX, so £2400ish, a lot more than most cages, but then it only weighs 39kgs and connects to all 4 strut tops. Wish I had that kinda money haha

 

[jack_kemp]

How can you use that argument about the wheels???? You're suggesting that the standard 5- spoke wheels are the ultimate compromise between strength and weight for a track car??? Don't be a tool. You're just arguing for a stupid point for the sake of it.

 

[frenchthing]

as said, looks very much like a CustoCages installation, certainly looks similar to mine,

as for all the negative comments?? judging by those pics the guys thought about what he wants and built what he wants, if it resemble a late 1990`s max power cover car i could probably see reason for slating areas,

maybe he has a set of "track" wheels at home with full on slicks?? maybe its a work in progress?? maybe he just doesn`t give a **** about what others think hahahaha

 

[chrispy.clio]

Only just seen this thread.

The bloke does have a cracking cage. 39kg does seem a bit light tho! I would have thought it would have weighted a it more. £2400 for a cage now thats been commited.

I also wander what under the bonnet too

 

[chrispy.clio]

Oh and Gussets = FTW

 

[Christopher]

All that effort and then he's running Alium 172 wheels. Possibly the heaviest wheels ever. Ever.

 

[Silent_Scone]

^lol


No WINDSCREEN - too far Chris.

 

[SteveS Cup]

Wind in the hair FTW... f**k aerodynamics, it's all about what the scales and rr say these days!!!! lol

 

[The Boosh!]

All that effort and then he's running Alium 172 wheels. Possibly the heaviest wheels ever. Ever.

Wrong

 

[Christopher]

Are they the 2118's made of lead?