Bent 8 inlet valves after fitting dephaser

[alexadams182]

Fitted new dephaser pulley on a clio 182 started it up and bent 8 inlet valves after taking the head off Discovered 8 inlet valves was bent what went wrong all the timing tools fitted every this was timed I'm very confused as I've got to buy 8 valves head gasket and head bolts can't get my head round this

 

[Typhoon]

Did you use the genuine Renault locking tool? Designed especially for these engines because of the floating VVT's etc?

If not then your engine has more than likely sh*t itself and ate the valves.

 

[alexadams182]

Did you use the genuine Renault locking tool? Designed especially for these engines because of the floating VVT's etc?

If not then your engine has more than likely sh*t itself and ate the valves.

Did you use the genuine Renault locking tool? Designed especially for these engines because of the floating VVT's etc?

If not then your engine has more than likely sh*t itself and ate the valves.

No I made a tool to hold the pulley so I could torque the dephaser, I never used a sprocket cam locking tool but everything still lined up, does the dephaser pulley need to be set at 12 0 clock ? Also the valves have slightly marked the pistons but not that bad hope the pistons are ok

 

[alexadams182]

No I made a tool to hold the pulley so I could torque the dephaser, I never used a sprocket cam locking tool but everything still lined up, does the dephaser pulley need to be set at 12 0 clock ? Also the valves have slightly marked the pistons but not that bad hope the pistons are ok

I locked the back of the cams and crank with the tool

 

[bloke]

No I made a tool to hold the pulley so I could torque the dephaser,

got to see a pic of it pleeeeeeease....

 

[Matt W]

Made a tool!

Love these threads. Shortcutting to save money works 0% of the time.

 

[alexadams182]

What went wrong if the horse shoe went straight in the back of the cams and the crank locked with the pin

 

[bloke]

erm...you being serious or trolling?

 

[alexadams182]

So I need a cam sprocket locking tool and does the dephaser need to be set at a certain postion

 

[bloke]

dephaser is floating, all the pulleys are, so doesn't need to be set.

 

[alexadams182]

dephaser is floating, all the pulleys are, so doesn't need to be set.

Obviously I went wrong not using the correct tool

 

[Matt1234]

i have done a few of these now. So you locked the crank and the back of the cams with the correct tools.
If you used to tools to to lock everything in place them I can't see how it went wrong. Did the engine turn over OK by hand before you started it.
Another possibility is that the dephaser pulley bolt was loose.

 

[alexadams182]

Everything was tight and torqued. All I can think is the inlet cam was out, turned it by the crank at least 8 times and no valves where hitting only when I started it the belt was testioned

 

[alexadams182]

i have done a few of these now. So you locked the crank and the back of the cams with the correct tools.
If you used to tools to to lock everything in place them I can't see how it went wrong. Did the engine turn over OK by hand before you started it.
Another possibility is that the dephaser pulley bolt was loose.

Dephaser pulley was torqued to 125nm

 

[bloke]

balance drilling in the crank instead of the tdc hole?

 

[bloke]

also how did you make sure it was at tdc?

 

[alexadams182]

The pin went in all the way and I used a long screw driver for tdc

 

[alexadams182]

The pin went in all the way and I used a long screw driver for tdc

Taking a spark plug out and putting a screw driver in

 

[bloke]

pin will go all the way in the balance drilling and also if you miss all together and pass the end of the crank web.

 

[alexadams182]

I done the timing belt on this car few months ago and nothing went wrong

 

[bloke]

but it did this time though.

 

[alexadams182]

but it did this time though.[/

but it did this time though.

don't no what happened but something went wrong whipped the head off need 8 valves just wondering if you know if the valves are the same as a 172, I got the Renault tech data now so I'm going by that this time and I never used the cam sprocket locking tool as renault say it should be used if it's actually needed I thought it's only to tighten the pulleys down so I made something up last time I used the gun what I think didn't do the dephaser any good

 

[STEVE.M]

Helpfull?

 

[alexadams182]

Helpfull?

Thank you

 

[alexadams182]

Thank you

hi that file wont open

 

[Typhoon]

hi that file wont open

All files can be found @ www.phoon.co.uk/cliosport

 

[alexadams182]

Thank you

All files can be found @ www.phoon.co.uk/cliosport

 

[alexadams182]

I've come to the conclusion that the crank was not locked properly just waiting on a gasket set and some valves keep you updated on the rebuild hopefully it all goes well

 

[Matt W]

Using a screwdriver as one of the tools? PMSL!

 

[alexadams182]

No used the pin to lock crank and a screwdriver in the spark plug hole read the thread

Using a screwdriver as one of the tools? PMSL![/QUOTE

 

[alexadams182]

The pin obviously went in a balance drilling hole

 

[Dan@SJM]

Also the belt tensioner was incorrect in that picture

 

[alexadams182]

Also the belt tensioner was incorrect in that picture

what do you mean incorrect that's before I took the belt off

 

[alexadams182]

what do you mean incorrect that's before I took the belt off

it wasn't tensioned it was loose in that picture

 

[alexadams182]

Clio is running new gaskets new valves dephaser fitted inlet cam was 180 out so I made a silly mistake do these cars suffer from bad idle as it idled a bit rough before and it's still the same I think it's the throttle body any ideas ? Also took the sump off noticed the oil pump chain is a bit slack and the conrods have slight side to side play?

 

[botfch]

They do idle a tad rough on the standard map, but this could also be a symptom of the timing being out.

 

[alexadams182]

Timing is spot on.. Thanks

They do idle a tad rough on the standard map, but this could also be a symptom of the timing being out.

 

[alexadams182]

It was like this when I brought the car and it never had a timing belt done

Timing is spot on.. Thanks

 

[Darren S]

How rough is 'rough'?

They aren't the smoothest of engines, but I actually like them for that.

 

[alexadams182]

How rough is 'rough'?

They aren't the smoothest of engines, but I actually like them for that.

It's not bad at all with the air intake pipe I can see the throttle body flap fluctuating what makes me think it's that need to get it on a diagnostics to get live data