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Ast top mounts or pure motorsport mounts
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AST allow you give more castor/camber than the PMS mounts.
AST are alot more money, so is it worth the extra money for the option to add the castor?
PMS top mounts can be used with there very well designed strutbrace in the future if you wanted stiffen the front of the car.
Ive had AST top mounts in the past, they are very good and i was happy with them. But i know several people running the PMS mounts who compliment them eqaully
AST are alot more money, so is it worth the extra money for the option to add the castor?
PMS top mounts can be used with there very well designed strutbrace in the future if you wanted stiffen the front of the car.
Ive had AST top mounts in the past, they are very good and i was happy with them. But i know several people running the PMS mounts who compliment them eqaully
Pretty much sums it up
If you want to add caster to the suspension setup you'll need AST top mounts
If it's just because you want a solid top mount to replace knackered standard ones I would personally go for the PMS ones because the built in strut brace (copy of the cup racers) is awesome
If you want to add caster to the suspension setup you'll need AST top mounts
If it's just because you want a solid top mount to replace knackered standard ones I would personally go for the PMS ones because the built in strut brace (copy of the cup racers) is awesome
You can easily add castor using the cup wishbones/move the bolt hole on the wishbone as chip did, though im unsure how it compares angle wise. But after fitting cup wishbones you wont be far off the price of the AST mounts.
But The way the AST mounts add the castor is also more practical, as it moves the top of the strut so it doesnt make the wheel closer to the bumper.
But The way the AST mounts add the castor is also more practical, as it moves the top of the strut so it doesnt make the wheel closer to the bumper.
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For a road car - Standard top mounts.
For a trackcar - PMS Kit
For a racecar - AST
For a trackcar - PMS Kit
For a racecar - AST
If it's just a fast road car put the PMS kit with strut brace on - it increases turn in speed, makes it all feel tighter. You'll love it 
And then annoy you when the poor road surfaces make the car feel like its going to fall apart.
This!
The top mounts really don't make much difference to the feedback from poor road surfaces unless you've got stiff suspension
LMFAO I dunno - a few people always seem to winge that they've fitted solid mounts and it gets a bit louder
Same with the engine mounts "It makes my dash vibrate"
Same with the engine mounts "It makes my dash vibrate"
bozothenutter
ClioSport Club Member
It's a french car.....the dash SHOULD vibrate...
Pure Motorsport are making me some caster/camber adjustable top mounts will also be using the strut brace. Should be a really nice bit of kit! Once the first kit is done Nick will be selling them so watch out! Will allow much more adjustment that the AST's
bozothenutter
ClioSport Club Member
Oh 'er....so the could be retrofitted to the old setup?
IE the holes are the same?
IE the holes are the same?
If it is like this I'm going to be extremely interested
Ermmm yeah - I was going to order 2 new spherical bearings for my top mounts as they've rusted but I think I'll wait and see what they bring out
Does anyone know if the bolt hole spacings are the same on the pms and Ktr top mounts? I've fitted the Ktr ones now but and getting tempted to try the pms top mounts and brace package, they both use three bolts through the turret so was thinking maybe the holes are drilled in the same place.
It's a kit - look on there website
bozothenutter
ClioSport Club Member
basically anybody with the strutbrace should be fine then......
yeah that's a good point. I have done they 'straight' but the chances are their be slightly out. I guess if needed I could drill the holes out more to make them fit, when their bolted down to the turret it wouldn't make a difference anyway.
RS4, Willy 2, 182 ff
That kit looks really good value!!
ive recently bought the KTR adjustable strut brace only a couple of months old, I wouldn't have a problem using this with the pms top mounts would I?
ive recently bought the KTR adjustable strut brace only a couple of months old, I wouldn't have a problem using this with the pms top mounts would I?
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i found these whilst browsing the bay
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clio-172-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ac23baf0d
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clio-172-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4ac23baf0d
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yeah pure are 120 + postage, just another option for people i suppose if they'd like some red ones or whatever
Yozza'd Blue Bus
Ye the PMS ones are £120
They are a rip-off of the PMS ones. Use the same spherical bearing but more expensive because they're anodized lol
Honestly the PMS kit with strut brace is the 2nd best £200 you'll spend on your Clio (after a whiteline ARB)
Honestly the PMS kit with strut brace is the 2nd best £200 you'll spend on your Clio (after a whiteline ARB)
Yozza'd Blue Bus
How is this coming along and when is it expected to be on sale?
Hi guys I'm fitting the mount/brace kit today and I'm having trouble, I'm fitting it to my existing ktec coil overs and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right as the guide only shows standard suspension, I took out the strut and the coilover unit came apart as the only retaining bolt was the one in the middle of the top mount, when putting the pms mount on the strut it looks as though it is over compressing the coils. Any help with this would be appreciated.
cheers
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