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are these speakers any good



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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
hi, i am looking to upgrade the blown speakers in my 1.2 clio dynamic. are these speakers decent ?
would the tweeters just fit in place of the standard clio ones in my dash ? if there no good if you recomend some more that would be great, my budget is £55 max
​thanks

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gavswav_172

  172cup
installing the first ones isnt too big a job. can do it in an afternoon if your organised. you can go the whole way and remove the original wires and rewire decent wiring to the hu. for 55 quid i would just snip the originals out and splice the new ones into the original wires. all standard fit mate providing their 13cm. Dash out is daunting but its easy in reality, only 6 screws. sure theres a guide here if you look. first choice for me all day. comps are far superior for SQ.
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
i'm guessing the connectors have already been cut off due to what you have said in the other thread

i'd just install the jbl's in the front and disconnect the rears and see how that goes
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
Dink said:
i'm guessing the connectors have already been cut off due to what you have said in the other thread

i'd just install the jbl's in the front and disconnect the rears and see how that goes
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Okay cheers, will there be any modification needed to put the tweeters in the dash where the standard ones are? because I'm not going it have the car for long they are gonna go in my 74 beetle after
 
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dan-182

  Clio 182
Answer to your first question - Yes. The JBL components you've posted will be good. In my opinion, JBL are a hugely underrated brand and people always have doubts when buying their products. The coaxils you've posted I can't give you an opinion as ive never heard them, but if it was me I'd buy the JBL: GT5-502 - 13cm speakers from Car Audio Security. Their part of the same range as the components you've suggested and are 3 squids cheeper ;)

Secondly - fitting components properly in a clio isn't an easy job if your not much of an audio freak. I'd recommend buying the JBL components you've suggested, but just look into the fitting requirements first and decide if you have the necessary skills needed to fit them. If you decide you don't fancy fitting components the long way then like Thomas suggested, the Pioneers might be a better bet.

Hope this helps dude!
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
dan-182 said:
Answer to your first question - Yes. The JBL components you've posted will be good. In my opinion, JBL are a hugely underrated brand and people always have doubts when buying their products. The coaxils you've posted I can't give you an opinion as ive never heard them, but if it was me I'd buy the JBL: GT5-502 - 13cm speakers from Car Audio Security. Their part of the same range as the components you've suggested and are 3 squids cheeper ;)

Secondly - fitting components properly in a clio isn't an easy job if your not much of an audio freak. I'd recommend buying the JBL components you've suggested, but just look into the fitting requirements first and decide if you have the necessary skills needed to fit them. If you decide you don't fancy fitting components the long way then like Thomas suggested, the Pioneers might be a better bet.

Hope this helps dude!
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Okay cheers will be looking to those,
I think I will be getting the jbl components with seperate tweeters to go on my dash, would I need to use the crossover or just use the original tweeter wires, don't want to do a really perfect install they won't be in there for too long
thanks
 
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ThomasBrentnall

tim1011 said:
Okay cheers will be looking to those,
I think I will be getting the jbl components with seperate tweeters to go on my dash, would I need to use the crossover or just use the original tweeter wires, don't want to do a really perfect install they won't be in there for too long
thanks
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Use the proper crossover as the standard Renault one will be different frequencies most likely which will damage the speakers
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
you'd have to see what the x-over is like but looking at the speakers it is just for the tweeter

so it should be a case of just connecting the speakers to the wires that are there and away you go
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
ThomasBrentnall said:
Use the proper crossover as the standard Renault one will be different frequencies most likely which will damage the speakers
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the standard renault one is built into the back of the tweeter so if you remove the tweeter you also remove it
 
l33th3tr33

l33th3tr33

Regarding removing the rear speakers, I have some coaxials in the rear, not by choice, they were in when I got the car when I got it. When I took them out it sounded a lot worse, they do provide a bit of surround for me anyway. Change the fronts, it's not an afternoon job, it's an hour job max if you have your head around the wiring and see what it's like. Once you've got an idea of the sound quality, remove the rears (5 min job) and try again. Like I said I prefer the bit of surround they provide.

Also, just to clarify ThomasBrentnall is right about the standard crossover, it's built into the tweeter so if you just run normal wires to the new speakers they won't have a crossover and the tweeters will blow and you'll be worse off.

It's not a hard job in reality so get stuck in!

Edit - beaten by Dink.
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
if it was me i'd replace the rears with some mid bass but he's not going to get some in budget
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
Thanks very much all, just to clarify should i use the crossover on the door speaker wires and run new cables to the dash tweeters from the crossover or should I just disconnect the standard tweeters and use the standard wires and forget about the crossover?
cheers
 
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ThomasBrentnall

tim1011 said:
Thanks very much all, just to clarify should i use the crossover on the door speaker wires and run new cables to the dash tweeters from the crossover or should I just disconnect the standard tweeters and use the standard wires and forget about the crossover?
cheers
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Don't run the tweeters with out a crossover, in fact don't run the door speakers without a crossover either unless the door speaker has a crossover built in!
 
l33th3tr33

l33th3tr33

Dink said:
if it was me i'd replace the rears with some mid bass but he's not going to get some in budget
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I knew I'd kept these on my watch list for a reason! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pair-Pyle...d=100011&prg=1005&rk=2&rkt=5&sd=370748407609&

tim1011 said:
Thanks very much all, just to clarify should i use the crossover on the door speaker wires and run new cables to the dash tweeters from the crossover or should I just disconnect the standard tweeters and use the standard wires and forget about the crossover?
cheers
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Personally what I did for ease is Wire the crossover in behind the glovebox, and spliced it in to the existing wires just behind the headunit. It's a lot easier than running wires through the doors, and a lot quicker, yes some may frown upon it, but it does the job and mine aren't amped so it's perfectly fine. Only splice the door speakers though and run the wiring for the tweeters straight from the crossover to the new tweeters, that way you can leave the existing wiring in for the standard tweeters.

It may be hard to figure out but once you think about it, it's easy.
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
it depends on the component setup some of the cheaper aftermarket sets have just a x-over (HPF) for the tweeter

it's no problem driving the full range into the door speaker but it would ruin a tweeter
 
l33th3tr33

l33th3tr33

Dink said:
it depends on the component setup some of the cheaper aftermarket sets have just a x-over (HPF) for the tweeter

it's no problem driving the full range into the door speaker but it would ruin a tweeter
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The ones I have only run the HPF to the tweeters so it's fine. To be honest I didn't think about the ones that run it to the door speakers as well.

To the OP, if you get components that run the crossover to both the door AND tweeter, ignore the way I did mine.
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
ThomasBrentnall said:
Don't run the tweeters with out a crossover, in fact don't run the door speakers without a crossover either unless the door speaker has a crossover built in!
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okay thanks, would you recommend locating the original tweeter wires and from speaker wires and cutting them and putting the speaker wires from the radio into the crossover then the original front speaker wires to the front speakers from the crossover and then the tweeter wires from the crossover to the tweeters ? Or do they have built in crossovers cos there not shown on the picture

thanks
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ThomasBrentnall

You need to go from the back of the headunit > crossover, then crossover > Tweeter and crossover > door speaker

Crossover in question, you can see the outputs and inputs. I wouldn't run either the tweeters or door speakers without this.

gt5-500c-tweeter.jpg
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
ThomasBrentnall said:
You need to go from the back of the headunit > crossover, then crossover > Tweeter and crossover > door speaker

Crossover in question, you can see the outputs and inputs. I wouldn't run either the tweeters or door speakers without this.

gt5-500c-tweeter.jpg
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​Thats great thank you for the help everyone
 
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ThomasBrentnall

No problem, where do you live. If you're anywhere close to me I can help.

Dashboard off is a very easy job (guide in the guides section). Getting the cable to the doors is a little harder but not in possible. Mounting the tweeters is easy.

Here's mine;

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Renault even give you a convenient place to put the old plug so it doesn't rattle (just under the speaker)
 
Dink

Dink

  Polo + Micra
ThomasBrentnall said:
You need to go from the back of the headunit > crossover, then crossover > Tweeter and crossover > door speaker

Crossover in question, you can see the outputs and inputs. I wouldn't run either the tweeters or door speakers without this.

gt5-500c-tweeter.jpg
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that's the thing not all comps are like that. some just have a HPF for the tweeter
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
ThomasBrentnall said:
No problem, where do you live. If you're anywhere close to me I can help.

Dashboard off is a very easy job (guide in the guides section). Getting the cable to the doors is a little harder but not in possible. Mounting the tweeters is easy.

Here's mine;

23qxtgm.jpg


Renault even give you a convenient place to put the old plug so it doesn't rattle (just under the speaker)
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That's great cheers, should be able to manage just needed the basics before i take anything apart, cheers for the offer tho
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
ThomasBrentnall said:
These wouldn't really suitable for the rear as there's nowhere to mount the tweeter! Go on to page one and look for the bass speakers that l33th3tr33 posted!
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I was thinking I could make a bracket for the tweeter in the 2 grills at the back next to the parcel shelf? And I don't really need bass because I've got a 12inch sub in the boot
 
l33th3tr33

l33th3tr33

tim1011 said:
I was thinking I could make a bracket for the tweeter in the 2 grills at the back next to the parcel shelf? And I don't really need bass because I've got a 12inch sub in the boot
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You'll think that but you need mid bass to get a decent sound, trust me on this! Also, I find a 10" sub more bearable and less of a thunderbox. Just sayin'.
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
l33th3tr33 said:
You'll think that but you need mid bass to get a decent sound, trust me on this! Also, I find a 10" sub more bearable and less of a thunderbox. Just sayin'.
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Okay cheers. Yeh and me but it was a really good price only cost me £25 I have nearly all of the way down, just want good sound rather than mega bass
 
l33th3tr33

l33th3tr33

tim1011 said:
Okay cheers. Yeh and me but it was a really good price only cost me £25 I have nearly all of the way down, just want good sound rather than mega bass
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Same as me then, decent set of components up front, mid bass in the rear and a small and/or not very powerful sub in the boot.
 
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tim1011

  clio mk2 1.2
hi, i brought a set of jb gt5 500c but even though they are 120w with 40 rms the distort at high volume using my 50w x 4 phillims radio, any one know why ? ive tried a diferent radio 4 x 45w and still the same
thanks
 
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