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anybody interested in clio 172 fully adjustable wishbones,
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clio 200, clio 172
£250 a pair
bozothenutter
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Looks interesting.
I can see how camber woulb be adjusted by moving the arm in or out, but castor?
I can see how camber woulb be adjusted by moving the arm in or out, but castor?
clio 200, clio 172
i designed them and have had a local company make me 4 sets, put them on my track car and noticed better handling, these are alot stronger than standard wishbones,
Russ Rallye
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For castor if you adjust just one of the tie rods it'll move the ball joint and hence the hub position.
Russ
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http://s1291.beta.photobucket.com/u...ort=3&o=0&_suid=13594094535050583090872520169
these are even better, but there £300 a pair
these are even better, but there £300 a pair
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clio 200, clio 172
only going to produce 50 pairs for retail market,
I'll embed the images for you,some higher res ones would be good.
clio 200, clio 172
spec on wishbones are
2.5mm 1" take
high strength rose joints 1/2"
5/8 spherical teflon liner bearing
5/8 shank pin
3" of shank for spacing
will be availble in 2 weeks time
2.5mm 1" take
high strength rose joints 1/2"
5/8 spherical teflon liner bearing
5/8 shank pin
3" of shank for spacing
will be availble in 2 weeks time
As per my question above, what make and grade are the joints please?
You wouldnt trust me selling you "high quality" tyres without knowing the first thing about them, and if one of those joints fail its going to be worse than any blowout in terms of the chance of you crashing your car as a result.
What guarentee is offered with them, who is the company we are buying from, do they have liability insurance in case one fails?
You wouldnt trust me selling you "high quality" tyres without knowing the first thing about them, and if one of those joints fail its going to be worse than any blowout in terms of the chance of you crashing your car as a result.
What guarentee is offered with them, who is the company we are buying from, do they have liability insurance in case one fails?
What material is the 'shank pin' made from?
Ash are you getting the same feeling as me that this guy doesnt know the first thing about suspension and is just interested in flogging a load on for profit without the first clue about them?
Apologies to the OP if that isnt the case, but if it isnt then please can you supply people with the details we are asking for?
Apologies to the OP if that isnt the case, but if it isnt then please can you supply people with the details we are asking for?
bozothenutter
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thanks mate, had to draw it out formyself, but get it now....
It's the chap who makes the £100 odd quid cages of this company http://www.alachi57.com
clio 200, clio 172
rose joints are rated to 5000lbs
What make are they, and what sort of liability insurance and guarentee do the company selling these arms have?
A rollcage knocked up by a hobbyist is one thing, but a set of bottom arms is a VERY safety critical part of a car, its no good if the welds crack in 3 years time due to fatigue induced by transmitting loads and vibrations etc.
For going grass track racing or something like that then fair enough, but for something that might see thousands and thousands of hours of use on a road car, these things are vitally important.
They need making, putting on a test car, and then driving on the road for a LOT of miles with regular X-rays if people are going to be buying them for road cars IMHO
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Chip, if you we recall any of the rear beams that Danny B made on the Cossie's, in particular the stage 3 beam as he called it.
these suffered cracking on the arms after hardly any use.
i know they all didn't fail, but a good few did.
Jacko had one fitted, we then went and did a test day at brands prior to a TA round, at the end of the day when we sat back to have a cuppa before loading the car back on board we spotted huge camber to one wheel, when we looked just to see if anything had come loose, one of the arms had a 3" split through it and with the weight of the car held upon it the split was slowly creeping open.
not bad for a £1500 beam and one days use
the comparison may not be fair, but from a personal experience it has has me worried when random items suddenly pop up on the market without any checks having been carried out or evidence to prove so.
these suffered cracking on the arms after hardly any use.
i know they all didn't fail, but a good few did.
Jacko had one fitted, we then went and did a test day at brands prior to a TA round, at the end of the day when we sat back to have a cuppa before loading the car back on board we spotted huge camber to one wheel, when we looked just to see if anything had come loose, one of the arms had a 3" split through it and with the weight of the car held upon it the split was slowly creeping open.
not bad for a £1500 beam and one days use
the comparison may not be fair, but from a personal experience it has has me worried when random items suddenly pop up on the market without any checks having been carried out or evidence to prove so.
Yes it's not a good way to sell them, from my research there is only one material that should be used for the ball joint pin which is why I am keen to know what they are made from if the material I have been told to use then thats a good start
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i love this quote
Ash are you getting the same feeling as me that this guy doesnt know the first thing about suspension and is just interested in flogging a load on for profit without the first clue about them?
i have spend a few thousand pound develping them, getting copyright, licences etc,
not keen on giving all the infomation out at the moment as have had larger company intrested in having the uk licence to sell these.
Ash are you getting the same feeling as me that this guy doesnt know the first thing about suspension and is just interested in flogging a load on for profit without the first clue about them?
i have spend a few thousand pound develping them, getting copyright, licences etc,
not keen on giving all the infomation out at the moment as have had larger company intrested in having the uk licence to sell these.
XC90, 330d, Trophy’s
You have me puzzled here now, why would you be trying to push a product forward but be reluctant to give out information on them?
the make/strength and ability of a rose joint isn't really worth keeping a secret as these could be sourced elsewhere anyhow, but if I were to be buying a product I'd like to know its fit for purpose from the moment I fit it.
Chip, in ref to Danny B, I agree.
i had no problem in handing him my escort to have the cage fabricated within it, but as you've mentioned already a cage is a bit different to vital suspension parts.
the make/strength and ability of a rose joint isn't really worth keeping a secret as these could be sourced elsewhere anyhow, but if I were to be buying a product I'd like to know its fit for purpose from the moment I fit it.
Chip, in ref to Danny B, I agree.
i had no problem in handing him my escort to have the cage fabricated within it, but as you've mentioned already a cage is a bit different to vital suspension parts.
You have "copyright and licenses etc" ?
TBH this is the sort of product I would actually sooner pay over the odds and pay for from a company like Ktec or Demon tweeks etc than off some bloke on a forum who refuses to give any info about them and totally avoids all questions about the make of parts and the guarentee if any and whether any form of liability insurance is held.
I am all for supporting small businesses and I frequently have components fabbed in small quantities, but items like the bottom arm arent the first place I would be looking to start with tubular welded replacements unless I really did totally trust the vender, I cant think of a single more important safety components on the whole car than the bottom arm TBH, and if one of those welds cracks then you lose the strength of the triangulation and the rest are likely to fail sooner afterwards.
TBH this is the sort of product I would actually sooner pay over the odds and pay for from a company like Ktec or Demon tweeks etc than off some bloke on a forum who refuses to give any info about them and totally avoids all questions about the make of parts and the guarentee if any and whether any form of liability insurance is held.
I am all for supporting small businesses and I frequently have components fabbed in small quantities, but items like the bottom arm arent the first place I would be looking to start with tubular welded replacements unless I really did totally trust the vender, I cant think of a single more important safety components on the whole car than the bottom arm TBH, and if one of those welds cracks then you lose the strength of the triangulation and the rest are likely to fail sooner afterwards.
clio 200, clio 172
i was wanting to know if there was enough interest in the wish bones i have designed,
all feedback is gratfully received, like any new product, testing is on going.
all feedback is gratfully received, like any new product, testing is on going.
clio 200, clio 172
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