1st line/2nd line/3rd line

[Longy]

I do all three levels but mainly 2 and 3.

 

[DMS]

I've never understood the whole semester thing with the CCNA. How does it work?
I just did the 640-802 exam after watching CBT Nuggets videos and playing about with kit in our test environment at work for a few months. I don't think there's any need for it to be stretched across 4 semesters.
I then had to do the 640-553 exam to get the CCNA: Security. That exam was more difficult but you still don't have to learn so much that it needs dragging out over more than a few weeks of hard studying.

 

[Greeny.]

Unfortunately I'm 1st, 2nd and 3rd line.. makes for an interesting conversation with myself though..

lol same mate, company isnt big enough for the 3

 

[@Spoonie]

1st line helpdesk dealing with paper jams etc - was my first job. Easy life.

 

[young_lew]

I've never understood the whole semester thing with the CCNA. How does it work?
I just did the 640-802 exam after watching CBT Nuggets videos and playing about with kit in our test environment at work for a few months. I don't think there's any need for it to be stretched across 4 semesters.
I then had to do the 640-553 exam to get the CCNA: Security. That exam was more difficult but you still don't have to learn so much that it needs dragging out over more than a few weeks of hard studying.

Semester 1 = Subnetting / LAN Cconcepts / Getting to know the devices

Semester 2 = RIP / Access Control Lists

Semester 3 = VLANS / WAN Concepts / Spanning Tree

Semester 4 = WAN Protocols / NAT & PAT / Route Summarization

thats pretty much how its split up, theres lots of bits in between, but from memory they're the stand out features of each semester........

 

[KDF]

Sem 2 also covers RIPV2 / IGRP / EIGRP / OSPF / IS-IS and briefly BGP.

Sem 3 also covers wireless

not sure what else is covered in sem 4 yet. And I agree.. it is very stretched out.. but it gives you time to get on with a normal life.

 

[ChrisR]

I've never understood the whole semester thing with the CCNA. How does it work?
I just did the 640-802 exam after watching CBT Nuggets videos and playing about with kit in our test environment at work for a few months. I don't think there's any need for it to be stretched across 4 semesters.
I then had to do the 640-553 exam to get the CCNA: Security. That exam was more difficult but you still don't have to learn so much that it needs dragging out over more than a few weeks of hard studying.

Can imagine it's just to spread it out really, so you can do it in a taught environment part time whilst you're working.

If you don't have the knowledge or the time to self study it and don't want to do a boot camp it's not a bad way to do it I guess.

 

[PinkoCommie]

Semester 1 = Subnetting / LAN Cconcepts / Getting to know the devices

WTF? How long is a semester? That's day one when I did it at Learning Tree.

Not sure how you can stretch a 4/5 day course out over 4 semesters.

 

[ChrisR]

WTF? How long is a semester? That's day one when I did it at Learning Tree.

Not sure how you can stretch a 4/5 day course out over 4 semesters.

Remember for most this is part time, nightschool learning, so could be just an hour a week.

Couple that with the fact it's not a boot camp environment I can see how they can stretch it out for so long.

 

[realnumber 1]

It's a 2 year course at the college I work at. Probably about time I got my ass into gear and got it done seen as its free but hoping our new director will let me update my MS qualifications instead.

 

[KDF]

2 year ? its one year for me 8 weeks per semester.

 

[PinkoCommie]

Remember for most this is part time, nightschool learning, so could be just an hour a week.

Couple that with the fact it's not a boot camp environment I can see how they can stretch it out for so long.

Hmm, I suppose if it was an hour a week you could stretch it out.

I just passed the JNO-541: Juniper Networks Certified Internet Associate (JNCIA-IDP) today.

4 day course a couple of months ago where we did about 2 days worth of messing around with the devices and 2 days of the guy teaching us how to hack :evil:. Took 2 days off this week to do revision. Not even touched the devices in the meantime.

One question on the exam was: What is the name of the cable used to connect to the console port?....

Null-modem is the answer, but how the feck does that even help me in the day to day operation of an IDP?

Anyway, everyone just calls them serial console cables, I don't think I've even heard the term null-modem cable since the days of lugging your Atari ST/Amiga round to a mates house to play multiplayer.

 

[Longy]

Hmm, I suppose if it was an hour a week you could stretch it out.

I just passed the JNO-541: Juniper Networks Certified Internet Associate (JNCIA-IDP) today.

4 day course a couple of months ago where we did about 2 days worth of messing around with the devices and 2 days of the guy teaching us how to hack :evil:. Took 2 days off this week to do revision. Not even touched the devices in the meantime.

One question on the exam was: What is the name of the cable used to connect to the console port?....

Null-modem is the answer, but how the feck does that even help me in the day to day operation of an IDP?

Anyway, everyone just calls them serial console cables, I don't think I've even heard the term null-modem cable since the days of lugging your Atari ST/Amiga round to a mates house to play multiplayer.

Aye but serial lead and a null modem serial lead are different (crosslinked of pins) I have to use both daily.

 

[PinkoCommie]

Aye but serial lead and a null modem serial lead are different (crosslinked of pins) I have to use both daily.

Yeah, hence serial console cable and not serial cable. :rasp:

Anyway, it's just easier to have serial to cat5 converters instead. Less bulk to carry.

I usually end up with a franken cable because my laptop doesn't have a srrial port. So I have Laptop -> USB-to-Serial cable -> Serial to Cat 5 convertor -> Cat 5 cable -> Serial to Cat 5 convertor -> Device.

Thats why I like F5 and Bluecoat kit. Can setup IP address from front panel, saves me having to actually console onto them for initial setup.