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ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
SC'd a wee bit slower, Turbo's a wee bit quicker.
Lock thread!
Lock thread!
I had a play with a turbo one in my cup. There was nothing in it. I couldn't get away and he couldn't catch me.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Clio 172's bhp per ton > 163.11
Min Cooper S's > 143.50
The Cooper is a little heavier than the 172 but still bvery capable all the same.
I like them but i prefer my 172
Min Cooper S's > 143.50
The Cooper is a little heavier than the 172 but still bvery capable all the same.
I like them but i prefer my 172
Golf 7R
Ooooh a vs thread ... it's been a while!
Yozza'd Titanium 182
how much do they both weigh?
182 FF
+1 never new that
A ANIMAL
Anybody hear about that V6 on fire?
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Mini Cooper S (S/charger) > 1140kg's
Mini Cooper S <T/Charger) > 1130kg's
The new Peugeot 207 GTi shares the same Turbo unit from the Cooper S btw, a much heavier car though
Mini Cooper S <T/Charger) > 1130kg's
The new Peugeot 207 GTi shares the same Turbo unit from the Cooper S btw, a much heavier car though
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
And the pug only has 5spd box.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
^aye thats right, shocking bit of engineering when you look at how good the old 205 is in comparisson 
Golf 7R
LoW clio Sh*t...&..
r56 JWC coopers is the turbo version'd one as the engine are tweaked..Forget the 172 the cooper s turbo'd is way quicker than the cup in a straight line so R56 will walk all over the 172. However though the cup clio handles much better and is more agile than the r56. I hate to say it but its a fact.
182
i disagree
the new uglier turbo version is pretty much identical to the cup in performance terms, played with a couple before i started tuning my car and they were very even
i've also played with a GT tuned old shape S which start at 210bhp upwards and that couldnt pull on me, he was two up though
The non JWC R56 Cooper S is 1.6 turbo 172 bhp.
Focus ST
Super Charged or Turbo'd ?
I'm considering going back to turbo, in the form of ibiza cupra
172 Cup
My Pal has a GTT 220 conversion and there is not much in it at all, apart from the fact he has a longer rev range in the gears! all depends on when we hit the throttle who will have the Edge!
I definately have the upper hand in the twisties and handling dept without doubt!
this is his Car!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/838541.htm
E92 M3
its the facelift one that turbo
DrR
ClioSport Club Member
VW Golf GTD
It's not, the facelift was in 2004ish (same as ph1 to ph2 clio)
2006 is all new new mini. (same as ph2 to new clio 3)
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
With the overboost a lot of them are dyno'ing at 200bhp standard!
Yep, the 2004 facelift kept the SC.
In 2004 they changed the gearbox (as the old ones were dog awfull) and gave it another 7bhp (up to 170).
My mum has one, it nippy. Very capable, it sticks to the road like its on rails. They can be very tail happy however.
Have a look at that drivers republic review of all the current hot hatches... they loved the R56.
My mum has one, it nippy. Very capable, it sticks to the road like its on rails. They can be very tail happy however.
Have a look at that drivers republic review of all the current hot hatches... they loved the R56.
ForceIndia
ClioSport Club Member
Gentlemans spec 200
Thats the works version IIRC, should be good for about 22k!!
Super Charged or Turbo'd ?
I'm considering going back to turbo, in the form of ibiza cupra
What a rubbish car that is.
172Cup, Golf Gti 1.8T
The standard Cooper S (MK2) is 175bhp (1.6 turbo) and if you think it's 'way quicker' than a 172Cup you're wrong.
If you disagree, lets see your 'FACTS'.
I expect the JCW model would be quicker from around 60 onwards.
Monaco 172
I've owned both and I can say that 172 is definately quicker. I found the S to have more low down grunt though, probably due to the supercharger. Only thing is the supercharger is working all the time so it drinks fuel like a b*****d. Both great handling cars.
Black Ph2 172
Thanks for your sarcasm
Sorry. I should have just steered clear but this is a common topic and has been discussed to the death. All that happens is the discussion turns to all versions of the Mini (JCW etc) and Clio (Cup, 182 etc) and nothing makes any sense. And then the 'it's down to the driver' comments follow.
Bottom line is (IMO) there ain't a massive difference between the 172 and the MCS (S'charged) but the advantage will lie with the 172.
Weeman sucks ****
Shitcnuts car!!
A ANIMAL
Finally some logic
