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Detailing Chat & Questions Thread
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Golf GT & A4 Avant
Been trying the power maxed TFR Ready to use formula which equates to 1:50 dilution ratio the past week or so. Used on both muddy, salty but protected cars with LSP's still strong. Tried it on its own and after using other pre washes and pressure rinses. So far a friend and I have been a little disappointed.
It's far from the touchless wash that's been doing the rounds on social media. It does a decent job of removing grime but not any better than your typical pre wash or snow foam
Should be getting hold of some of the concentrate to try at different dilutions but I haven't been won over by it after all the hype
The QD and frequent use wheel cleaner seem to be pretty decent. The QD almost feels a little greasy on first wipe around but if left it pretty much flashes off on its own. Finish is pretty glossy, very easy to use, it does add it's own little protection by the different water behaviour, but the beading isn't all that tight
It's far from the touchless wash that's been doing the rounds on social media. It does a decent job of removing grime but not any better than your typical pre wash or snow foam
Should be getting hold of some of the concentrate to try at different dilutions but I haven't been won over by it after all the hype
The QD and frequent use wheel cleaner seem to be pretty decent. The QD almost feels a little greasy on first wipe around but if left it pretty much flashes off on its own. Finish is pretty glossy, very easy to use, it does add it's own little protection by the different water behaviour, but the beading isn't all that tight
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
Hey cleaning gurus. I've a little question about white cars.
I've got a white 1 series and it's a proper swirl bus. I've got a porter cable da polisher too.
I plan to use some auto finesse restore 1 after claying for the heavy swirls then maybe hit it with some mazina final finish To get rid of light swirls.
I have a pot of dodo white diamond too To wax it. Am I missing any stages? Ta.
does white ever look "polished"?
oh forgot I'm using an orange lake pad for the cutting
I've got a white 1 series and it's a proper swirl bus. I've got a porter cable da polisher too.
I plan to use some auto finesse restore 1 after claying for the heavy swirls then maybe hit it with some mazina final finish To get rid of light swirls.
I have a pot of dodo white diamond too To wax it. Am I missing any stages? Ta.
does white ever look "polished"?
oh forgot I'm using an orange lake pad for the cutting
BG Clio 182
Not really, properly decontaminate and methodically wash car. Polish with the autofinesse. I think 1 I believe is the most aggressive so you'll probably need a fine polish again to remove the marring or blurryness this heavy polish leaves.Hey cleaning gurus. I've a little question about white cars.
I've got a white 1 series and it's a proper swirl bus. I've got a porter cable da polisher too.
I plan to use some auto finesse restore 1 after claying for the heavy swirls then maybe hit it with some mazina final finish To get rid of light swirls.
I have a pot of dodo white diamond too To wax it. Am I missing any stages? Ta.
does white ever look "polished"?
oh forgot I'm using an orange lake pad for the cutting
Autofinesse 3 probably be good for this.
Just 2 layers of wax then
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
Ta @bearhead.
The mazina final finish it's a fine cutter (and I have some). So I thought that would clean up the finer swirls. 2 coats of wax is a good idea tho. Thanks.
The mazina final finish it's a fine cutter (and I have some). So I thought that would clean up the finer swirls. 2 coats of wax is a good idea tho. Thanks.
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That'll be sound, use it on a very mild cut
yeah, be better with a sealant really, autofinesse tough coat is incredible. Just with the salt and s**t on the roads and rain. Wax over that when it's been on a month or so to keep the beading tight
Iain C
ClioSport Club Member
Ah sealant. Always forget what order it goes down in. l'll get some tough coat.
Thanks fella.
Thanks fella.
You'd be better off (IMO) just to top up again with Tough Coat. Just as easy to use in place of a QD wipe down.
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Most definitely it's just by the time it needs a top up a wax would be viable as the weather will have picked up
My brother should be picking up his new Frozen White ST-2 in a few days so I'm looking to get a few new items to top up my dwindling supplies.
Looking for a spray type sealant, Was using AM seal but durability isn't that great and its almost done. Also i think i might pick up a glaze to do it for now until the weather picks up and i can get a proper day spent on it.
Don't want to spend mega money but whats out there, been a while since i bought more conventional type products
Looking for a spray type sealant, Was using AM seal but durability isn't that great and its almost done. Also i think i might pick up a glaze to do it for now until the weather picks up and i can get a proper day spent on it.
Don't want to spend mega money but whats out there, been a while since i bought more conventional type products
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Autofinesse tough coat is an excellent sealant. Excellent.
Probably give it a coat of something like auto finesse triple first to restore any lost paint luster or colour.
AFAIK, AM Seal is basically exactly the same as Tough Coat. So many be something else.
Have a look at CarPro Reload
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All sealants are very similar to be fair.
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CLIOSPORT05
I disagree.
Toughcoat, as good as it is, is a pretty old school type sealant. The likes of Reload and C2V3 are far superior.
That's a ridiculous statement to make.
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I do love how everybody gangs up on here. It's quite heroic. But let's be honest, spray type sealants from alllll the big boys let's be fair are all very similar in terms of how they look and feel and time effectiveness.
It's the way most iron remover products are very similar and most car polishes are too in the way similar grades do the same thing. All pads are similar in a way you can buy lots of different light cut and finishing pads etc and they all give very similar results.
A lot of products are all very similar let's just be honest.
No, that's just another ridiculous statement! Utterly ridiculous in fact! If anything polishes are probably the product that is always entirely different opposed to waxes etc.
C2V3 and Reload couldn't be any further apart for spray sealants.
I don't mean to be rude but your advice is completely false nevermind misleading for people coming into "detailing".
C2V3 and Reload couldn't be any further apart for spray sealants.
I don't mean to be rude but your advice is completely false nevermind misleading for people coming into "detailing".
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I know what you're saying, but you can't dispute a lot of products are very similar. It's silly to suggest they aren't as they all do a similar job. A wheel cleaner cleans wheels. A polish removes paint. They're just all for the same purpose.
I think you just see someone challenging you and feel you need to put them down, I see you doing it a lot. If it makes you feel good then fair enough I really don't care, but at the end of the day my car is lovely and shiny and I've never really had any issues with products. You seem to want to complicate everything [emoji42]
Maybe you're just really bad at wording stuff mate. As I said I'm trying not to be rude and I apologise if it comes across that way but your giving people misinformation. Your wheel cleaner example is silly, of course it cleans wheels, one might not clean wheels well, one might have a dilution ratio of 1000:1 vs one that requires use neat.
The whole detailing thing is a minefield as it is without people giving misinformation.
The whole detailing thing is a minefield as it is without people giving misinformation.
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I think we've understood each other here. My point is your advice to use say reload and my advice to use tough coat. To me and you who do know how to apply it, we get similar results and only the product let's each application down. I can't fault your advice but the products I have suggested are highly renowned and get good reviews on a lot of forums on a lot of cars as you'll agree.
I probably don't word things the best to be fair on here. Most of the time I can't be bothered to word things properly because some products take an awful lot of explaining lol.
I know exactly what you're saying but if someone asks for a good wheel cleaner and you say hot wheels and I say demon wheels or autofinesse wheel cleaner or whatever they're all good in their own way and give similar results, especially if pre diluted and ready to spray in the same size bottle?
I agree some products are different though. I feel a lot of the time people have problems because they're using the wrong product for the application, or poor preperation, rather than the product being s**t.
How do you apply Lime Prime via DA? I used it yesterday but I'm not convinced I applied it right. Went about speed 4 and moved kinda quickly over the panels, similar to how you would apply a glaze.
Also, does Tough Coat sit well on top of Lime Prime? Again, I used these yesterday (Menz polish > Lime Prime > Tough Coat) so if it's not a good combo there's not much I can do about it now lol but I'm always looking to learn for future use!
Also, does Tough Coat sit well on top of Lime Prime? Again, I used these yesterday (Menz polish > Lime Prime > Tough Coat) so if it's not a good combo there's not much I can do about it now lol but I'm always looking to learn for future use!
BG Clio 182
Use on a finishing pad. Spread on speed say 2 or 3 then up to a high speed with slower vertical and horizontal passes. Down to maybe speed 4 for a final few passes.
Golf GT & A4 Avant
Tough coat doesn't seem to be an overly fussy product about what it sits over so I'm sure it'll be fine.
Doing a side by side test you might see it last a fraction longer over a less oily base but I wouldn't personally worry.
Doing a side by side test you might see it last a fraction longer over a less oily base but I wouldn't personally worry.
That's fairer mate, the wording makes it simply sound that there is nothing between each product of similar ilk, there can be massive differences.
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I will definitely agree there, but as you'll agree 99% of the time when people get poor results it's because of wrong product s**t prep or poor application
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A wet vac is really effective. Try some autoglym interior shampoo or similar on a microfibre. Soak the cloth in red red hot water and spray some cleaner onto the cloth and try wiping over the belt.
Cheers guys! I was going to try it alongside some c2v3 I had but I ran short on time and just fired straight on with the tough coat as it was quick and easy to apply. I can imagine the c2v3 would be miles ahead of it though.
As above, a wet vac will be best, but failing that something like a relatively strong mix of AF Verso will be better than Total at removing dirt from seat belts.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
There was a guide floating on here a while back.
Something along the lines of soak them in a bucket of warm water mixed with washing powder, agitate with a softish nail brush after 5 mins.
Repeat with another bucket of clean water and leave to dry.
Ime, sprays and potions just move the muck around the belt.
Best method I found is as follows:
Undo bottom seatbelt bolt
Pull belt fully out and secure at the top with a clothes peg to stop it retracting
Place belt in a bucket of warm water with standard washing powder
Scrub belt with a nail brush and MF cloths to remove soap residue
Dry with a towel
Leave belts fully retracted to allow them to completely dry
Replace bolt
I'd say C2 was quicker, left a slicker feeling finish and lasted longer. Just use the same methods. 2 mf's and 15 minutes does a full car.
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