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Uneven Top Mounts - Solution?

DickP

ClioSport Club Member
#1
Hi,

The upper part of my Clio 182's top mounts do not match each other in the distance that they protrude.

The car has had two sets of new OEM top mounts including rubbers, and this had made no difference. Whilst the front suspension struts were removed from the car I checked them against each other using calipers and can confirm they are identical in available thread and position of all components. They have both been assembled correctly.

When I first got the car I do not recall one top mount sticking out further than the other.

Is it known for these cars to suffer from distortion to the wheel arch turrets?

Am I going to have to resort to solid top mounts to correct the issue?

If so, which ones are the closest to road comfort that the OEM top mounts provide?

Your help would be very appreciated!

Thanks,
 

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STEVE.M

ClioSport Club Member
#2
Hi,

The upper part of my Clio 182's top mounts do not match each other in the distance that they protrude.

The car has had two sets of new OEM top mounts including rubbers, and this had made no difference. Whilst the front suspension struts were removed from the car I checked them against each other using calipers and can confirm they are identical in available thread and position of all components. They have both been assembled correctly.

When I first got the car I do not recall one top mount sticking out further than the other.

Is it known for these cars to suffer from distortion to the wheel arch turrets?

Am I going to have to resort to solid top mounts to correct the issue?

If so, which ones are the closest to road comfort that the OEM top mounts provide?

Your help would be very appreciated!

Thanks,
Are you using the modified top mount kit 543A09780R in combination with the modified 27mm combined nut/ spacer 8200867250?

This replaces the original top hat spacer & 17mm half nut.
 

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#3
Hi,

The upper part of my Clio 182's top mounts do not match each other in the distance that they protrude.

The car has had two sets of new OEM top mounts including rubbers, and this had made no difference. Whilst the front suspension struts were removed from the car I checked them against each other using calipers and can confirm they are identical in available thread and position of all components. They have both been assembled correctly.

When I first got the car I do not recall one top mount sticking out further than the other.

Is it known for these cars to suffer from distortion to the wheel arch turrets?

Am I going to have to resort to solid top mounts to correct the issue?

If so, which ones are the closest to road comfort that the OEM top mounts provide?

Your help would be very appreciated!

Thanks,
The One on the right is screw down more obviously.
How about switching the dampers left to right.
 

DickP

ClioSport Club Member
#4
Hi,

I am using the original setup rather than the later revised spacer nuts as I ended up with a batch of incorrectly sized spacer nuts. The car did not creak or have any symptoms that people associated with the original design which is why I reverted to it some time ago.

Although the photographs make it appear there is more thread visible on one top mount than the other, I can confirm they are both the same as checked with calipers. This is just the photo angle.

I am not sure what would be achieved by swapping struts from left to right etc as the calipers indicated that both the upper parts are identical with thread length and heights once assembled. The difference appears to be to do with how the rubber mount sits inside the wheel arch turret.

On further inspection I did find that if I remove the top sections whilst the car is sat level I can see one of the top mount rubbers looks to sit flushed inside the wheel arch turret than the other. This further suggests it is a body to top mount interface problem rather than with the strut or top mount assembly.

I did check inside the wheel arch turrets for obstruction when changing the mounts for a second time in the attempt of fixing the issue, and there is no material or items in either that could alter the fit.

This leads me back to the question of whether the car has somehow sustained damage to the wheel arch turret and it is now mishapen?

Thanks,
 

STEVE.M

ClioSport Club Member
#5
Hi,


This leads me back to the question of whether the car has somehow sustained damage to the wheel arch turret and it is now mishapen?

Thanks,
Extremely unlikely, and even if it had, the same amount thread would still be visible, and car would sit lower on one side.

Have you checked both top hat spacers & 17mm nuts are the same height, and you are using a pair of top covers with the integrated 21 mm nut above the

turret?

Original nut & spacer 2015-07-19 19.44.45.jpg
 
#7
Think mine was like this IIRC. Don't worry about it. Something's aren't equal, if there is more weight on the left of the car then it'll need the spring mounting further down.

Are the gaps between the wheels and arches the same from right to left? That's what you want to be measuring.
 
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DickP

ClioSport Club Member
#9
Hi,

Steve.M as mentioned earlier the threads visible from the top covers are the same as checked with calipers. Apologies in that the photo angle makes it appear one has more than the other protruding.

The assembly of both top mounts is identical and spacing between components is the same, as checked with calipers too.

fleby that may be a final resort to confirm whether that's the case. I would like to exhaust other possibilities before I try that option.

I have thought this evening that if the lower part such as hub is mispositioned can that alter the way that the top mount sit in the wheel arch turret?

Thanks,
 

STEVE.M

ClioSport Club Member
#10
Hi,

Steve.M as mentioned earlier the threads visible from the top covers are the same as checked with calipers. Apologies in that the photo angle makes it appear one has more than the other protruding.

The assembly of both top mounts is identical and spacing between components is the same, as checked with calipers too.

fleby that may be a final resort to confirm whether that's the case. I would like to exhaust other possibilities before I try that option.

I have thought this evening that if the lower part such as hub is mispositioned can that alter the way that the top mount sit in the wheel arch turret?

Thanks,
 

STEVE.M

ClioSport Club Member
#11
Hi,

Steve.M as mentioned earlier the threads visible from the top covers are the same as checked with calipers. Apologies in that the photo angle makes it appear one has more than the other protruding.

The assembly of both top mounts is identical and spacing between components is the same, as checked with calipers too.

fleby that may be a final resort to confirm whether that's the case. I would like to exhaust other possibilities before I try that option.

I have thought this evening that if the lower part such as hub is mispositioned can that alter the way that the top mount sit in the wheel arch turret?

Thanks,
In that case, I`ll go with Flebay and suggest the shocks are some mismatch, unless you know otherwise.

RPD are doing them for £33 a side OE, it would be foolish to miss the opportunity

USE code RPD20 FOR FREE DELIVERY.

https://www.renaultpartsdirect.co.uk/parts/special-offers/renault-clio-182-front-shock-absorber/
 

DickP

ClioSport Club Member
#12
Hi Steve.M

The struts are new items which are on the car and were fine previously.

I did get a specialist to change the clutch shortly before I changed the top mounts - I can't say if this issue was present following the clutch change however. Likewise I also had the front wishbones replaced at a similar time.

Is it possible to misalign the sub frame on a Clio 182?

Is it possible to mislign the wishbones during fitting on a 182?

If either (or both) of the above are possible, then if the strut is not sited in the correct place will this allow the big rubber piece to sit higher inside the wheel arch turret?

(driver side rubber sits flush against the inside of the wheel arch turret whereas the passenger one does not)

Thanks!
 

YorkshireKyle

ClioSport Club Member
#13
Loosen off the wishbone nuts, drop the car down and then tighten them back up when the suspension is loaded, most people tighten s**t up when the car ain't on the floor so the bush may be a bit twisted up. It's a long shot but worth checking for peace of mind

Did you have both lower arms replaced? One could be different to the other
 

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