The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy

[SharkyUK]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Nice little update The mounts and brace are great piece of kit.

Thanks, Keith. I've heard no end of good reports and look forward to having the items fitted very soon...

 

[Tony Hunter]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

I'm going to nick it whilst your taking pictures.

 

[Ash']

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Really looking forward to seeing this Andy!

 

[SharkyUK]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

I'm going to nick it whilst your taking pictures.

Hahaha! Tony, that's why my good lady is thinking of coming along. She can keep an eye on it whilst I'm taking photos. I can trust her. I think... I'd let you use it for your upcoming races but, alas, it isn't stripped and you'd get more enjoyment out of the 106. (Joking aside, I hope the Clio is soon back up and running strong).

Really looking forward to seeing this Andy!

I can't help but think that people will be disappointed... it's just a Trophy that needs a polish and wax, valeting, some dents taken out and someone who can drive it! LOL! It does sound nice though.

 

[Martin.]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Awesome. How the F did I miss this update!!

Fantastic that you've finally got it back and with great results. I bet it goes very well indeed, combined with that sound = WIN.

Chuffed for you mate. Some more pictures would be good though when you get a chance. Maybe even a cheeky video on the move!

 

[Fred@BTM]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Is it done yet?
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[davo172]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Just a little update showing a 'before and after' with respect to dyno overlays.

However, please take the following with a pinch of sodium chloride; two different dynos were used by different operators under different conditions! It's well known that dynos vary greatly from one to another so...

The before plot (the blue line) was the last dyno session before I dropped the car off with Fred. I was running:

• K-Tec DTH ITB's
• Standard cams
• GEN90 ECU
• Filter of Death
• Mapped at K-Tec/TDF

The after plot (the red line) was the most recent dyno session when the car was being run-in and mapped. I am running:

• Jenvey ITB's
• Schrick cams
• GEN90 ECU
• Mapped by Paul at RS Tuning

I have taken the graphs I received from RS Tuning and composited the previous results over the top.

The light-green shaded area shows the increase in bhp.

And again, the light-green area shows the increase in torque.

Moral of the story? Feck knows.

What was the figures At the wheels Andy ?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

What was the figures At the wheels Andy ?

210.9@flywheel = 179.3@wheels

 

[davo172]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

210.9@flywheel = 179.3@wheels

Whats the best method of working it out from either a wheels figure or atf figure then chip ?

 

[Chip-mk1]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Whats the best method of working it out from either a wheels figure or atf figure then chip ?

In the case of a Dyno Dynamics rolling road in Shoot_4 it uses 0.85 percent as a fixed conversion factor, so just divide wheels figure by 0.85 to get flywheel, or multiple flywheel figure by 0.85 to get wheels.
(thats for fwd and its 0.79 for rwd in the same mode)

 

[SharkyUK]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Chuffed for you mate. Some more pictures would be good though when you get a chance. Maybe even a cheeky video on the move!

Cheers Martin! I'm loving it mate. I'm just in the process of having a few more tweaks and updates and I'll then get some decent photos taken. I'll also borrow a GoPro and get some video footage uploaded Watch this space...

Is it done yet?

Nearly! It's taking a bit longer because it got written-off last Thursday...

In the case of a Dyno Dynamics rolling road in Shoot_4 it uses 0.85 percent as a fixed conversion factor, so just divide wheels figure by 0.85 to get flywheel, or multiple flywheel figure by 0.85 to get wheels.
(thats for fwd and its 0.79 for rwd in the same mode)

^ What Chip said.

 

[Dan@Greenlight]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Great...just seen this thread for the first time, had a quick look through and now very interested to get the full story, so that pretty much wipes out my whole day of work tomorrow to read this through in detail! Thanks

 

[SharkyUK]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

Great...just seen this thread for the first time, had a quick look through and now very interested to get the full story, so that pretty much wipes out my whole day of work tomorrow to read this through in detail! Thanks

You won't be thanking me after you've wasted the majority of you day... That said, I hope you enjoy it at least a bit. I've had fun updating this thread despite the ups and downs over the years!

 

[aucky]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

I bet this just feels fantastic when you've got it on the boil!
So glad you've got it back mate!

 

[SharkyUK]

Re: The life of... SharkyUK's Trophy [& Fred's V6]

I bet this just feels fantastic when you've got it on the boil!
So glad you've got it back mate!

Thanks mate!

I've not properly driven it in anger yet but I have had a few 'spirited moments' here and there and it does feel fantastic. Keep the revs up, and the engine fizzing, and it flies! I'm pleasantly surprised at how strong and capable a genuine 200+ bhp Clio feels. Despite the highs and lows, I'm glad I stuck with it

 

[Tony Hunter]

Andy has a Trophy, and fancies doing something to it.

Gets let down by two Renault specialists (big time)

Andy takes car to Fred.

A year later, car comes back.

Andy Happy


The short version, for people with not a lot of time.

 

[Fred@BTM]

17months ish to be precise, I watched a lot of Guinness adverts

 

[SharkyUK]

Andy has a Trophy, and fancies doing something to it.

Gets let down by two Renault specialists (big time)

Andy takes car to Fred.

A year later, car comes back.

Andy Happy


The short version, for people with not a lot of time.

17months ish to be precise, I watched a lot of Guinness adverts

PMSL! 83-odd pages summarised in a couple of posts. :hail:

Tony, get your car over to Fred as he LOVES building F4R's... (and he doesn't do a bad job).

 

[Silent_Scone]

I would of been in practically the same boat if I had kept mine. It's enough to put you off cars for a life time. Fred is the only 'specialist' that did what was asked and properly. The rest just want to shove everything through the door fast as possible!

Happy ending well and truly deserved

 

[Dan@Greenlight]

My word, that was some read! Very enjoyable but all caught up now!

Impressive is an understatement and that is not just in regards to the build and work put in on the 'pink shed'

The patience you had with this was incredible! Pleased to see that as it stands it looks as though it is going to be a happy ending

Fortunately, we have you with an insurer where we can offer agreed values on them, so if you want to drop me a number, I will give you a call and we can get it sorted and refer it.

Having read the thread, I can't imagine there is going to be a problem with it.

Very enjoyable read, thanks.

Dan

 

[SharkyUK]

I would of been in practically the same boat if I had kept mine. It's enough to put you off cars for a life time. Fred is the only 'specialist' that did what was asked and properly. The rest just want to shove everything through the door fast as possible!

Happy ending well and truly deserved

Exactly mate. Unaccountable frustrations aside, the job was done as agreed and I think some people were getting more wound up than I was! I was kept in the loop and knew what was going on so happy days After 700 miles, it is driving beautifully and reliably. At least the engine and gearbox is... sadly there was a little more bad luck with Le Clio B**tard Rouge today...

My word, that was some read! Very enjoyable but all caught up now!

Impressive is an understatement and that is not just in regards to the build and work put in on the 'pink shed'

The patience you had with this was incredible! Pleased to see that as it stands it looks as though it is going to be a happy ending

Fortunately, we have you with an insurer where we can offer agreed values on them, so if you want to drop me a number, I will give you a call and we can get it sorted and refer it.

Having read the thread, I can't imagine there is going to be a problem with it.

Very enjoyable read, thanks.

Dan

Hi Dan, many thanks for taking the time to read through. I appreciate it's a bit of a lengthy tome and apologies if it ate into your working schedule! Hahaha! Joking aside, I'll PM you my number and discuss the renewal. As of today, my details have changed anyway (a couple more mod's and new house/address) so speak to you soon Thank you.

As you'll read in the forthcoming update, the cursed Trophy was hit with a little more bad luck today. Nothing serious thankfully. Just hugely frustrating for myself and a minor headache for SJM (Dan) in Somerset who worked on the car today! Aaaaaargh!

 

[SharkyUK]

August 2014 - Mini update #2

Nothing is ever simple with this cursed car, is it? FFS...

As I mentioned in an update a couple of pages back, I had ordered a few more parts and today they were being fitted (along with a bit of fabrication work in the engine bay). I was on an airport run for a friend and, being in the Somerset area initially, I naturally dropped the car with Dan at SJM. The plans were to:

• drop the ECU as it sat too high in the engine bay
• add a MOCAL oil catch tank into the mix
• new brake pads to be fitted, obviously with fresh brake fluid
• new pre-cat lambda sensor
• fitting of Pure Motorsport top mounts and strut

To be honest, it was actually Dan's fault as he made the mistake of saying that it was a fairly straight forward job and shouldn't take too long... As you'd probably expect (or Fred would know!) that's never quite the case with this f'ing car. If I just roll back an hour or so...

Setting off from Wales we hit torrential rain as we crossed the Severn estuary and I'm still not sure how my good lady and I made it down the M49 and M5. The wipers couldn't cope with the deluge, the motorways flooded as they couldn't copy with the deluge and I almost had my better half hanging out the car as we struggled to identify where the edge of the roads / lanes actually were! It was ridiculous. Thankfully it didn't last too long and another 10 miles down the M5 and we were back on dry tarmac and blue skies! But, strangely, I had thought that the suspension felt a little crashy. I was not 100% sure though; I hadn't driven the car for a long time and was swapping between a few different cars from one day to the next. I thought I maybe wasn't used to it again and the fact it was feeling different due to the addition on the diff. I thought nothing of it and carried on; the roads were generally good and it was handling fine.

Having arrived at Dan's workshop, I handed him the keys and parts I'd sourced and discussed plans for the engine bay. It looked straightforward enough to modify the ECU bracket and to fit the MOCAL catch tank so no problems were envisaged. Hence, I carried on my way and left the man to do his magic.

It wasn't long before I got a message that something wasn't quite right. Dan asked if I'd noticed anything weird regarding the handling; specifically on the drivers side (front). I mentioned the crash-ness and was then told that there was an issue with the Sachs damper. Basically it was f**ked! It was simply moving in/out and offering zero damping whatsoever. No amount of priming or fiddling could temporarily sort it so... yep. Rebuild time. This was a bit unexpected and money is tight at the moment. On top of paying for the recent work, today's work, MOT, tax and insurance (due this week) I'm also moving from my old house to a new one (and currently having to pay for both). Pay day can't come quick enough this month! LOL! Of course I was annoyed but, given the story of the car, it perhaps shouldn't have come as a surprise! My initial thought was one of dismay as it was yet another setback; and I just want to get out and drive/enjoy it. My second thought was also one of dismay. As I have no chance of getting the Sachs rebuilt in the near future it threw into doubt the forthcoming Llandow track day, my first visit to Clio Sport Saturday and a week's driving holiday I've organised in Scotland in a few weeks time. You could say I was a bit pi$$ed.

Of course, there was also another slight hiccup. Again - nothing major - but enough to give Dan a headache! (Sorry mate!) In removing the old strut to make way for the new PMS kit, the strut cross threaded. Hence Dan had to run a die up and down it. Sadly this meant he had to go out and chase up various people until he could find what he needed. After a few dead-ends he thankfully found what he needed Plenty of M12 when what you really want is M14... I was grateful for him running around and sourcing the part so happy days and many thanks

Moving on a few hours to when I went to collect it...

Yep. The damper is f**ked alright. Absolutely nothing working with it! On a quick test drive that Dan had taken, it was now obvious that the damper was screwed. The addition of the excellent PMS kit highlighted the issue as it just caused knocking over anything but the slightest undulation in the road surface. Dammit. On the plus side, the new kit looked great

To facilitate the fitting of the PMS kit, Dan dropped my ECU by 35mm so as not to foul the strut. It now sits at a much more pleasing level in the engine bay. He also added the MOCAL catch tank flush with my existing setup and I was able to retain the battery cover. I was expecting to lose it but, now it's being kept, I will get it polished up and/or sprayed to match the rest of the bay. All I need now is to replace the horrible blue pipe with red and to fit a filter to the other outlet from the catch tank. This will be happening very soon. Sorry for the poor mobile phone pics.

Another minor issue was with the brakes. The fronts were binding a bit (maybe from having been stood so long) so I'm keeping an eye on that. It wasn't too bad on the way home so we'll see how that goes.

To finish up, a fellow Clio enthusiast turned up at Dan's for a quick spin in the Trophy (wanting to see what the ITB's were like). I think he liked them

As of this moment in time, I'm trying to get something sorted so that I can take the Trophy out at Llandow a week on Wednesday, so that I can attend Clio Sport Saturday and so that I can take my T on the Scotland holiday / drive that my car club has organised. I really don't want to miss out on these events. I'm gagging to drive and enjoy the car now. Fingers crossed!

 

[Tim.]

I'm not going to dwell on your saga, plenty of others will be along to do that. Instead I'm going to offer you a length of something bendy & bright red to replace that monstrosity of a blue pipe. I'll bring it along to Llandow, or happy to mail it to your new home if you'd rather?

Maybe someone with some spare Sachs will lend them to you for a month?

Yet another superbly written update, do you write about any other subjects, novels, short stories or blogs etc?

 

[Chi]

Andy if you need a loan of some coilovers or a car, let me know I'm sure I'll have something to suit.

 

[Martin.]

Nice update, the little goodies look lovely. I like the PMS top mount and brace kit!!

Probably not any good to you, plus I'm so far away, but I have some standard shocks with Eibach springs you could borrow if needed.

On another thought, for the long term. Would it not be better to get something like the Bilsteins or some proper coilovers to save spending money on the Sachs refurb.

 

[George182]

Catch tank and PMS set up look brilliant!

Shame about the set backs but it's great to see everyone banding together to help out

 

[Chi]

Nice update, the little goodies look lovely. I like the PMS top mount and brace kit!!

Probably not any good to you, plus I'm so far away, but I have some standard shocks with Eibach springs you could borrow if needed.

On another thought, for the long term. Would it not be better to get something like the Bilsteins or some proper coilovers to save spending money on the Sachs refurb.

Wash your mouth out

 

[Martin.]

Wash your mouth out

Lol I thought that might be coming at some point.

 

[davo172]

Catch tank and PMS set up look brilliant!

Shame about the set backs but it's great to see everyone banding together to help out 

Is yours all sorted now mate ? shame you couldnt get it back for ourr RR day
It was a great day good turnout

 

[davo172]

Andy if you need a loan of some coilovers or a car, let me know I'm sure I'll have something to suit.

FLOL :star:

 

[Chip-mk1]

Just pop some 182 cup dampers on it for now?

 

[SharkyUK]

Instead I'm going to offer you a length of something bendy & bright red to replace that monstrosity of a blue pipe. I'll bring it along to Llandow, or happy to mail it to your new home if you'd rather?

Ooh, that would be fan-flipping-tastic, Tim. Thank you. I would be extremely grateful if you could mail it to my new address at a convenient time for you. I'll happily cover any costs incurred :star:

Yet another superbly written update, do you write about any other subjects, novels, short stories or blogs etc?

You're too polite, sir. I won't take offence should I be labelled a "drama queen!"

Haha! Despite being a geek/techy, I do enjoy painting/artwork and creative activities. Alas, the downside is that these can be time-consuming pursuits and I simply don't have the time to enjoy them as I would like to.

Andy if you need a loan of some coilovers or a car, let me know I'm sure I'll have something to suit.

Always there to offer help and assistance... superstar. I'll give you a shout if I'm stuck my friend. I've hopefully got something lined up though. I'll keep you posted Thank you (yet again).

Nice update, the little goodies look lovely. I like the PMS top mount and brace kit!!

Probably not any good to you, plus I'm so far away, but I have some standard shocks with Eibach springs you could borrow if needed.

On another thought, for the long term. Would it not be better to get something like the Bilsteins or some proper coilovers to save spending money on the Sachs refurb.

Thanks Martin. I really like the PMS kit, too. I look forward to testing the setup more thoroughly once the suspension has been fixed. For now I'm just enjoying the increased knocking as the damper, er, doesn't!

As for the "standard shocks"... really young man! LOL! I'm not interested in getting a decent coilover setup mate, but thank you for the suggestion. If it were a more focused track day car (or, indeed, a pure track day car) then I would happily invest in a set of top-quality coilovers. However, a lot (most) of my enjoyment comes from driving challenging roads and, in my opinion, the Sachs are unbeatable. They inspire a lot of confidence, communicate what the car is doing and - to me - this is what makes the car so enjoyable. As a result I'm happy to get them refurbed/rebuilt when funds allow me to do so. The Sachs are good on track, but outstanding on the roads.

Catch tank and PMS set up look brilliant!

Shame about the set backs but it's great to see everyone banding together to help out 

Cheers George. Dan has done a great job and it does look great. A bit of spit and polish will finish things off nicely!

Wash your mouth out

Haha! ^ This!

Lol I thought that might be coming at some point.

*no comment*

FLOL :star:

Ditto!

Just pop some 182 cup dampers on it for now?

Exactly mate - this is the current thinking/plan. I'm hoping a certain chap can get a set to me in the next day or two for fitting...

It never ceases to amaze me the level of help, and offers of help, from people on here and on the facebook pages. Thank you everyone.

 

[George182]

Is yours all sorted now mate ? shame you couldnt get it back for ourr RR day
It was a great day good turnout

Gutted I couldn't mate it mate - next time, I'll be there!

I get the car back tomorrow. Actually can't wait!

 

[Martin.]

By standard shocks and Eibachs, I didn't mean long term Just temporarily to keep you going until you sort out what you need to

But yeah I agree for you to be honest, for what you want/need Sachs will be the way forward!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Exactly mate - this is the current thinking/plan. I'm hoping a certain chap can get a set to me in the next day or two for fitting...

It never ceases to amaze me the level of help, and offers of help, from people on here and on the facebook pages. Thank you everyone.

Only about 85 quid or so for the dampers new, so a handy spare to keep at home anyway.

 

[SharkyUK]

I get the car back tomorrow. Actually can't wait!

Nice one, mate. I also look forward to seeing your car at some point...

By standard shocks and Eibachs, I didn't mean long term Just temporarily to keep you going until you sort out what you need to

But yeah I agree for you to be honest, for what you want/need Sachs will be the way forward!

Haha! Yeah, I know mate... I just couldn't resist jumping on the 'Trophy Elite' step and taking the pi$$. Pfft. Trophy Elite... more like a parts-bin special...

Only about 85 quid or so for the dampers new, so a handy spare to keep at home anyway.

True - not a bad call actually mate

And on that note, I need to get back to work!

 

[George182]

You'll get to see it at Llandow

 

[davo172]

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Looking mint under the bonnet now Andy :approve: apart from the blue hose ( till Tim gives you his big Red length ! ) love the colour coding , even the coolant to match your paintwork lol (why not type d ?)

 

[Fred@BTM]

because the rad is temporary, so i just chucked it in for the time being, plus when the engine blows up it won't show up as much on his paintwork

 

[TimR26]

Trophy's engine bay looks great SharkyUK

because the rad is temporary, so i just chucked it in for the time being, plus when the engine blows up it won't show up as much on his paintwork

Could you phone or text me back please?