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- Thread starter treemanx
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U took the words outta my mouth.
5-10bhp will get u 2- 3car lengths in a straight line where as good brakes will let u brake 5+ car lengths later, give u more confidence and will work for longer with ALOT less fade!
Think about it that way
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Dont worry I'm stupid but I'm not that stupid! Was just curious that's all to find out if they actually work out more bhp per pound.
The standard brakes seem fine for road use but being a trackday virgin I'm guessing they could be better then.
172 - 249bhp @ the wheels
it's only really the pads that need upgrading to assist fade. some may recommend 4 pots, but they are totally unnecessary imo
172 - 249bhp @ the wheels
You can argue it's all a waste of money, as none of it will make the car worth anymore. If you enjoy the car though, then I dont see any of it as a waste of money. Sure, some things are more cost effective than others though.
If I ever buy 4 pots it will be purely to look cool in the eyes of fellow Clio enthusiasts! lol
172 - 249bhp @ the wheels
Lol, 0.3 of a second. Which could very easily have been down to more experience on the strip. A better reaction time. Or the 40kg weight loss.
Not something you'd notice on the roads, i think thats point proven
From experience you can spend megabucks, and end up with a car running similar power to someone elses factory standard model due to the variances in these engines.
But, if engine tuning makes you happy, go for it life is about happiness.
Not something you'd notice on the roads, i think thats point proven
From experience you can spend megabucks, and end up with a car running similar power to someone elses factory standard model due to the variances in these engines.
But, if engine tuning makes you happy, go for it
life is about happiness.I disagree on the 4 pots it depends on how many trackdays you do and whether you want to save money in the long run.
Maybe I just can't drive but I prefer to have brakes I can rely on everytime and have 4 pots gives me that.
If I was just boosting up and down a dual carrigeway then it wouldn't matter
Panel filter went in last night.
Zorst will be done when the standard one eventually falls off and will be replaced by something a little bit louder.
Springs done next month.
RS tuner soon after.
Not going to throw anymore money on it performance wise because IMO it wont be worth it.
ITB'd MK1
I disagree on the 4 pots it depends on how many trackdays you do and whether you want to save money in the long run.
Maybe I just can't drive but I prefer to have brakes I can rely on everytime and have 4 pots gives me that.
If I was just boosting up and down a dual carrigeway then it wouldn't matter
so who was faster round Bedford then?
with a passenger....and pagid blues :dead:FWIW I like 4-pots, but it has to be a pretty modded car driven pretty hard. I do like the fact they give more even disc wear also
so who was faster round Bedford then?
I think you were on slicks though and the amazing AST's but as I said it all boils down to the driver.
I just prefer the feeling of 4 pots and I wanted to keep my spotlamps.
So ner
328, MK1 Clio 1.4
Boll*cks
Italian 3.2 V6
pannel filter/exhaust system/matched inlets/custom remap are prob the four things bang for buck with 1*2 tbh.. thats as far as im going unless i have plenty of spare cash then maby cams... but thats it..
but i do agree, better brakes/tyres/suspension will get you around a track alot faster than just spending money on the above bhp mods and keeping stock brakes/tyres/suspension...
plus uprading the chassis is alot safer!!
but i do agree, better brakes/tyres/suspension will get you around a track alot faster than just spending money on the above bhp mods and keeping stock brakes/tyres/suspension...
plus uprading the chassis is alot safer!!
SQ5
Engine wise, I'm basically standard and have spent no more than £400. Matched Inlets, Ph1 box with ITG filter, Decat, exhaust. I've spent nearly £1000 on brakes and suspension FK Konigsports, Brembo HC discs, Ferodo DS2500's, Standard Rear brake setup. And spent nothing on removing all the rear seats, trim, spare wheel. I did have buckets aswell which took around 30kg away, but have standards back for now.
There is no point trying to make it quicker in a straight line, you won't notice much difference at all, you need to have less weight and more power to make the difference, but even then, its not majorly different. I raced Dan (Greeny 172) at the weekend, he's about 10bhp up on mine, think torque is the same ish, cannot remember. but weight I weighed around 10/15kg less, acceleration I had him (because its a Ph-Quick) but after 40mph we were dead even!
You need to go big if you want to make it quicker!
There is no point trying to make it quicker in a straight line, you won't notice much difference at all, you need to have less weight and more power to make the difference, but even then, its not majorly different. I raced Dan (Greeny 172) at the weekend, he's about 10bhp up on mine, think torque is the same ish, cannot remember. but weight I weighed around 10/15kg less, acceleration I had him (because its a Ph-Quick
) but after 40mph we were dead even! You need to go big if you want to make it quicker!
K-Tec Racing
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172LBT-172HBT-197-R2
on track is one thing..... and back in the everyday world you may want more power to improve overtaking, or to accelerate faster down the motorway sliproad...
I have said this time and time again.......
if YOU want to go faster then buy engine mods, if you want to be faster round a track then there are LOTS of ways (inc Fred excellent suggestion) of driving tuition.
Andy
I have said this time and time again.......
if YOU want to go faster then buy engine mods, if you want to be faster round a track then there are LOTS of ways (inc Fred excellent suggestion) of driving tuition.
Andy
Ph2 1.6 16v
If you want more power and are not bothered about track, buy a faster car.
Brakes, suspension, skill are all more important. The Clio is not about high power, and will cost thousands to get it. If you want gains, buy a turbo car and knock yourself out driving like a prick on public roads.
Brakes, suspension, skill are all more important. The Clio is not about high power, and will cost thousands to get it. If you want gains, buy a turbo car and knock yourself out driving like a prick on public roads.
Yes on a track. No good on the road unless its the battle of the brave, or stupid. Anyone can point and squirt on a road. To out doo someone on the road you need to be pushing well above the limits plus its not so much skill its other obstacles too.
For 2 to 3k you can build a Clio that can fight WELL above its weight!
Coupe/Defender V8
cam it, you won't regret it
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What?! Not at all, theres no need to push and drive daft to be faster on the road due to skill. If anything it will make you safer. Smoothness is the name of the game.
Whereas trying to make your car 'faster', and not being bothered about the other bits suggests that safety and skill arent a priority.
If you dont have enough power to overtake safely, or accelerate down the motorway sliproad in a 2.0 clio, the Dsa will gladly take you back for some more driving lessons
What?! Not at all, theres no need to push and drive daft to be faster on the road due to skill. If anything it will make you safer. Smoothness is the name of the game.
Whereas trying to make your car 'faster', and not being bothered about the other bits suggests that safety and skill arent a priority.
If you dont have enough power to overtake safely, or accelerate down the motorway sliproad in a 2.0 clio, the Dsa will gladly take you back for some more driving lessons
You forgot to say ''no point in having a fancy car for the road when a nice 1.2 will do 70''..innit :rasp:
As much fun as you can have under the speed limit naturally
Nah seriously racing aint my thing. Built the car to bring it up to modern hot hatch standards and for overtaking ability with the odd quarter mile thrown in for good measure.
Would never have the balls to track it.
Back on topic, imo its worth modding the 172 / 182's but from experience better to spend a large amount on a proper gain rather than spending silly little amounts for zero difference. Good place to start is weight reduction tho
Nah seriously racing aint my thing. Built the car to bring it up to modern hot hatch standards and for overtaking ability with the odd quarter mile thrown in for good measure.
Would never have the balls to track it.
Back on topic, imo its worth modding the 172 / 182's but from experience better to spend a large amount on a proper gain rather than spending silly little amounts for zero difference. Good place to start is weight reduction tho
Ph2 1.6 16v
Alot of people would if they could.
The want to get a few extra horses on the road is not about dick measurements with other drivers its about personal driving benefits of fewer gear changes and better acceleration which is a good feeling.
Having a car that gets me up to 70 or 40-70 quicker than it did when I first bought it is enough to float my boat. I'm just different and in no way a "battler on the street" as you put it. (innit)
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