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Mk3 RS Clio Versions?



  Ph2 Clio 172
I remember (although I can't seem to find it) that there was a guide on here that detailed the differences between the 172/182 specs (normal, Cup, Cup Chasis, FF, Trophy, etc etc).

Is there a similar guide anywhere for the Mk3's (197 and 200s)? I'm interested in learning about the different specs they came in, and how to tell them apart. Thanks.
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
I have a good memory.

At launch the car was available in a single, generous specification that included four-piston Brembo front calipers with 305mm vented discs, a functional rear diffuser, aircon, keyless entry and go, and 12-spoke 17in alloys with Clio-specific Continental SportContact tyres. The paint choice was two solid (Ultra Red, Racing Blue) and three metallic colours (Albi Blue, Deep Black and Nimbus silver).


Things started to get more interesting in 2007 when, to celebrate Renault’s 2006 Formula 1 title successes, the F1 Team R27 special edition was introduced. This brought Liquid Yellow to the 197 range, along with Recaro seats, special graphics and a numbered plaque by the handbrake. It also delivered the first Cup chassis on a 197. The Cup chassis was 7mm lower with springs stiffened by 27 and 30 per cent front and rear respectively and beefed-up MacPherson struts to sharpen the steering, and it soon became a £400 option on regular 197s too. Anthracite alloys and red calipers were the visual cues, though since these are easily replicated, the only sure way of spotting a Cup chassis today is to check the colour coding on the springs – orange and blue front and rear means it’s the real deal.

At the same time, and slightly confusingly, Renault introduced the stripped-out, cut-price 197 Cup, which also featured the Cup chassis but did without steering wheel adjustment, aircon, cruise control, key-card access, electric mirrors and even the tool kit. It cost £1k less than a regular 197, though if you specced the manual aircon and Recaros, it soon cost more.

Another useful improvement came in August 2008, with a new set of gear ratios including a longer sixth that made for easier motorway cruising. Over the final few months of production, Renault offered a Lux model, which added a machined finish to the standard 12-spoke wheels, auto lights and wipers, climate control and leather upholstery.

Production of the 197 ended in summer 2009, when it was superseded by the Clio Renaultsport 200 -– essentially the same car, but with a number of upgrades that finally allowed the current-generation Clio to reach its potential. The engine got minor changes to the head casting, variable valve timing and ECU map, lifting peak power to 197bhp, adding low- and mid-range muscle and dropping the 0-60 time from 6.9sec to 6.6.

The visible differences included a revised front bumper and headlights, five-split-spoke alloys and a revised rear diffuser, while the interior was given a general spruce-up and there were some tasty new options, including an integrated TomTom satnav and a panoramic sunroof.

Once again, the real interest lay under the skin, with new spring and damper rates on all versions and a quicker steering rack for the Cup variants, which this time were available right from the off. The 200 also adopted the torque-steer-killing ‘independent steering axis’ front suspension geometry first seen on the Mégane R26.R. The combined effect was stunning: more power everywhere, more steering feel and tight suspension control.

Three special editions to look out for are the Gordini with its unique blue paint job and white stripes (Cup pack optional); the Silverstone, in silver with a black roof and with the Cup pack, Speedlines and Recaros; and the Raider, in matt grey or red and with 18in R26.R wheels and leather Recaros.
 
  Ph2 Clio 172
Cheers

So for 197's:
An R27 is easily identified by being Yellow and having a plaque.
A normal 197 will have silver wheels and not have red calipers (ignoring the possibility for people to change them).
A normal 197 with the Cup Chassis will have all the AC/CC/adjustable steering, etc of the normal car, but also have red calipers, anthracite wheels and the colour coded springs. Would this be referred to as the 'Full Fat' like the 182 was?
A 197 Cup will have the red calipers and anthacite wheels(?) But have none of the CC/AC/Adjustable steering, etc.

Is that corrrect (again, ignoring owners changing the colour of things). Where does the black wheels and roof spoiler sit? Were they options, and if so, are the specific to certain models?

It feels pretty similar to the 182, where its easy to spot a normal car and a Cup, but the middle ground of Cup Chassis normals is a bit harder to spot and requires a bit of checking to be sure.

Thanks again.
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Answers in bold.

Cheers

So for 197's:
An R27 is easily identified by being Yellow and having a plaque.
R27's were available in many colours. Sticker pack was an option too, so some have it, some don't. Easiest way to tell is the ID plate inside.
A normal 197 will have silver wheels and not have red calipers (ignoring the possibility for people to change them).
Correct. Although some owners have had wheels changed/refurbished, so stick to the callipers for ID.
A normal 197 with the Cup Chassis will have all the AC/CC/adjustable steering, etc of the normal car, but also have red calipers, anthracite wheels and the colour coded springs. Would this be referred to as the 'Full Fat' like the 182 was?
Exactly.
A 197 Cup will have the red calipers and anthacite wheels(?) But have none of the CC/AC/Adjustable steering, etc.
Exactly, although AC was an option on the Cups, just no option of climate.
Is that correct (again, ignoring owners changing the colour of things). Where does the black wheels and roof spoiler sit? Were they options, and if so, are the specific to certain models?
All spoilers were options. GT Spoiler and Cup Spoiler. The GT is the more subtle one, the Cup is like the Cup Racers have.
It feels pretty similar to the 182, where its easy to spot a normal car and a Cup, but the middle ground of Cup Chassis normals is a bit harder to spot and requires a bit of checking to be sure.

Thanks again.
 
  Ph2 Clio 172
Legend. Thanks!

Is there no bolt spacing differences with suspension like their was with the 182? I.e. is there different aftermarket suspensions that I need to be aware of?
 

Christopher

ClioSport Club Member
  Z4M
Legend. Thanks!

Is there no bolt spacing differences with suspension like their was with the 182? I.e. is there different aftermarket suspensions that I need to be aware of?
Actually, yes. Lol.
Although it's top mount dimensions rather than bolt spacing this time.
All Mk3 RS models pre-July 2010 have a wider top mount. Post July/2010 RS models have a different setup. Only really applies to 200's, but worth knowing for suspension upgrade/replacement purposes.
So all 197/197 Cup suspension will also fit a pre-July 2010 200, but NOT a post-July 2010 200 like mine.
 
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