How do i get more than -2 degrees camber?

[samuel_umgeher]

Hello Boys,

i got a little question for my self and i cant awnser it really. I only saw in the internet the Eibach Camber Bolts (they do -2degrees max?)

And i asked myself how do i get more than -2 degrees of camber?
Or how do i get so much Camber like on the pictures i send with? maybe someone know the owner so i could talk to him(i got the picture from here but i cant remember the guy who uploaded it)?

I hope someone can help me

Sam

 

[Touring_Rob]

Hello Boys,

i got a little question for my self and i cant awnser it really. I only saw in the internet the Eibach Camber Bolts (they do -2degrees max?)

And i asked myself how do i get more than -2 degrees of camber?
Or how do i get so much Camber like on the pictures i send with? maybe someone know the owner so i could talk to him(i got the picture from here but i cant remember the guy who uploaded it)?

I hope someone can help me

Sam
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That looks a lot, maybe ok for track with 15" wheels and tall sidewalls.

You need lower adjuster bolts and top camber plates. Each will give you around 2 - 2.5degs.

 

[samuel_umgeher]

That looks a lot, maybe ok for track with 15" wheels and tall sidewalls.

You need lower adjuster bolts and top camber plates. Each will give you around 2 - 2.5degs.

i got 15" with tall sidewalls haahha

when i google lower adjuster bolts i find the camber bolts thats correct?
and for the top camber plates i find nothing for clio 172 so i dont know where you find them??

and thanks for your fast awnser

 

[Touring_Rob]

There are various styles of top mount available for 172 and 182. Some from memory require cutting the top of the strut which seems a bit much.

AST solid top mounts feedback

Well, today I fitted the AST solid top mounts to my AVO’s. Everything went to plan with removal of the old setup. Jack car up, take off wheels, remove struts. Checking over the AVO’s to make sure they were fine I could see no major issues except for a split rubber piston cover, which I...

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A few posts down.

Yes the lower bolts are often called camber bolts - again some are better than others. I have Eibach and they have been fine (not moved).

 

[Touring_Rob]

The Eibach blurb says they give upto -1.75degs the image you linked at the top is more than that, looks like closer to -3degs.

You can also buy camber spacers for the rear beam. Check PMS website.
Eibach

 

[Mr Underhill]

Some tyres can’t handle anymore camber than what you’ve already got. It depends on what you’re trying to do.

 

[samuel_umgeher]

There are various styles of top mount available for 172 and 182. Some from memory require cutting the top of the strut which seems a bit much.

AST solid top mounts feedback

Well, today I fitted the AST solid top mounts to my AVO’s. Everything went to plan with removal of the old setup. Jack car up, take off wheels, remove struts. Checking over the AVO’s to make sure they were fine I could see no major issues except for a split rubber piston cover, which I...

cliosport.net

A few posts down.

Yes the lower bolts are often called camber bolts - again some are better than others. I have Eibach and they have been fine (not moved).

okay thanks for the link i will look if it fits the B14

 

[samuel_umgeher]

The Eibach blurb says they give upto -1.75degs the image you linked at the top is more than that, looks like closer to -3degs.

You can also buy camber spacers for the rear beam. Check PMS website.
Eibach

i already have enought camber on the rear ahaha

 

[samuel_umgeher]

Some tyres can’t handle anymore camber than what you’ve already got. It depends on what you’re trying to do.

trackday, tbh -3 is to much for me too. -2,3 - -2,5 would be good yea

 

[Mr Underhill]

trackday, tbh -3 is to much for me too. -2,3 - -2,5 would be good yea

Yeah that’ll suit most tyres. I ran Yokohama 50s which have a reinforce carcass and they worked great with -3.4. Then stuck some A052s on without readjusting the camber down to -2.5 and got spectacular results 🫣.

 

[Brigsy]

Elongate the top bolt holes on the strut to suit negative camber required. I didnt even use camber bolts, used oem. Torque to spec and they wont budge a mm.

 

[Touring_Rob]

I wonder how many thousands of pounds you have save people over the years Brigsy 😂

 

[Brigsy]

I wonder how many thousands of pounds you have save people over the years Brigsy 😂

Go fast on a budget We used to call our mods PMT Development - "Pikey Motor Tuning"

Renault even elongated the holes on the struts on the R5gtt cup racers for up to -3deg negative camber from memory. Also you were allowed to hammer the tca bushes along for more castor. Oldskool way before the bling bits came out!

 

[Crayola]

Maxed mine out at -2.33⁰. One side went up to -2.38⁰ but the other side was having none of it

 

[samuel_umgeher]

Maxed mine out at -2.33⁰. One side went up to -2.38⁰ but the other side was having none of it

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looks perfect camber man, so you used camber bolts and top mounts??
and btw beautiful car, on the speedline you use ET43?

 

[samuel_umgeher]

Elongate the top bolt holes on the strut to suit negative camber required. I didnt even use camber bolts, used oem. Torque to spec and they wont budge a mm.

so on the topmount you mean i loose the bolts??

 

[Touring_Rob]

so on the topmount you mean i loose the bolts??

He means you remove the strut and using a dremel tool (or round file) elongate the top holes in the shock hub mount so they become more like slots here (think thats what you mean Brigsy?)

 

[npt]

If its purely track then 3degree or whatever your after will be fine, if you use it more on the road, I wouldn't go over 2 max as its horrible to drive imo, pulls all over and never quite composed on the uk road surfaces, even worse when wet, I have roughly 1.8 I think it is and that's just bare able

 

[Brigsy]

Thats the one @Touring_Rob i used a carbide burr and die grinder.

I did find wet road use was skitty with so much camber @npt was a bit overkill. Fine for track if the tyre can handle it.

 

[Crayola]

looks perfect camber man, so you used camber bolts and top mounts??
and btw beautiful car, on the speedline you use ET43?

Just camber bolts mate

Yeah they're ET43 but I run 20mm spacers to clear my brakes