Hole in PAS pipe, repair or replace?

[CIW]

Hi all,

at a recent track day the heat shield wore a hole in the metal part of the power steeing hose on my Ph1 172. I managed to repair it at the track and make it home with a bit of old rubber pipe and a jubilee clip but now need a permanent repair.

Replacing the whole pipe is a pain and expensive too so I was wondering if, since this was a hole rather than a leaking joint, whether it was better to get my local garage to repair?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Chris

 

[Budgie]

IMO replace the pipe.

If it goes bang properly it'll make an almighty mess.

 

[Papalaz]

The low pressure or high pressure out of interest?

My high pressure one went at Bedford last month and I just replaced it at the weekend

Right balls ache of a job, still cant quite get all the fixing points in place so have used about 20 cable ties to stop it moving

 

[Tony Hunter]

Easier to get Pirtek or the like to make up some flexy ones.

 

[CIW]

IMO replace the pipe.

If it goes bang properly it'll make an almighty mess.

Normally I'd agree, especially as it's a track day only car. But there's a huge difference price wise between just repairing and the full replacement (I've got no time to do it myself so would send off to my local garage). Also, since it was worn through by the heat shield (which I've now moved) there's no reason to suppose it's a bad pipe and would fail, right???

The low pressure or high pressure out of interest?

My high pressure one went at Bedford last month and I just replaced it at the weekend

Right balls ache of a job, still cant quite get all the fixing points in place so have used about 20 cable ties to stop it moving

Good question.... I don't know!

It's the metallic (alloy?) section on this pipe in the picture below:



I'm assuming it's low pessure as I managed to stop the leak with a jubilee clip and bit of rubber. If it's high pressure then my bodge it repair was better than I thought!

How long did yours take? And how long would you expect a garage to spend on it?

Thanks.

 

[CIW]

Easier to get Pirtek or the like to make up some flexy ones.

Thanks - have seen them mentioned when I did a search on this earlier. As I understand it I/the garage, would have to remove and send off the pipe to get a replacement made (do they not keep patterns??). Would they replace the whole pipe (as in the picture above) or just the part of it that has been worn through?

Would still get stung for labour for removal and replacement as well.

 

[Papalaz]

I think thats the high pressure line

Im terrible with tools so it took me a loooong time to take the old one off, in the end it snapped, would have taken even longer to get it out in one piece!

Help from a mate took a few hours to get the new one connected at the pump end and the steering rack ends, looks like we should have gone under the radiator hose and not over it though, this is what is causing me issues with getting some of the fixing points to line up as the pipe is slightly on the piss

Think even people like Fred hate doing these pipes!!

As Tony says few people have taken pipe to Pirtek to repair and have a few flexible sections and unions added in to make fitting much easier

 

[CIW]

I think thats the high pressure line

Im terrible with tools so it took me a loooong time to take the old one off, in the end it snapped, would have taken even longer to get it out in one piece!

Help from a mate took a few hours to get the new one connected at the pump end and the steering rack ends, looks like we should have gone under the radiator hose and not over it though, this is what is causing me issues with getting some of the fixing points to line up as the pipe is slightly on the piss

Think even people like Fred hate doing these pipes!!

As Tony says few people have taken pipe to Pirtek to repair and have a few flexible sections and unions added in to make fitting much easier

Thanks, on the plus side, my track side repair was obviously better than I thought, on the negative side, this doesn't sound like a job for my local (non renault specialist) garage.

 

[CIW]

Update: just called my local Renault specialist who helped confirm it was the low pressure pipe I need (got the wrong pic above so you were right Papalaz). Cheaper and easier replacement than the high pressure side though they wouldn't commit to saying how long they expected it to take.

 

[rich-6]

If its gone on the metal pipe personally id measure the diameter, cut the damaged section out and put a join in, as long as theres enough room around it you ahould be fine, if it was the high pressure id swap the lot, but not for the one thats gone on yours