driving without MOT or tax?

[merf-172]

hi guys im stuck at the moment.

the car has been off the road since the end of summer, while off the road mot has run out and tax.
the car failed an mot, its booked into renault to get work done am i actually aloud to drive the car to the garage just insured? i thought i would be ok but my friend has told me im not so im abit worried now as its booked in for monday :S

thanks

 

[Dan@M.A.D]

NO YOU CAN'T!

You need an M.O.T to drive on the road, You are allowed to drive it too an M.O.T centre if it's booked in but that's it!

 

[Revels]

You're allowed no MOT to drive to a pre-booked test. I don't think that applies to general repairs and I'm not sure about the tax.

Just pay a recovery truck to take it. It'll cost you 30quid but it's legal and no hassle.

 

[The Fatty]

Schedule 2 - Exempt vehicles

22. - (1) A vehicle is
an exempt vehicle [from VED] when it is being used solely for the purpose
of;

(a) submitting it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a
specified date) for a compulsory test, a vehicle identity check, a vehicle
weight test or a reduced pollution test, or

(b) bringing it away from any
such test or check.

 

[The Chubby Pirate]

Just drive it.

Badass.

 

[TimR26]

How far is it? If its only a few miles I'd risk it.

 

[The Fatty]

I would get a pick up truck becasue your inssurance also wont be valid without tax or mot...

 

[merf-172]

its about a 10 min drive on the A55, really dont want to risk it now will have to see if i can get a trailer or something sorted thanks guys

 

[merf-172]

also recovery trucks around here take the mick. they will charge me near £200 if not more, is towing an option?

 

[alanc1000]

don't risk it if you are not 100% certain.

 

[JackJack]

Towing is also illegal as the wheels will be on the ground.

 

[julzh]

Can you not just get the renault garage to book the test for you as part of the work?

 

[merf-172]

i was thinking that, if i do get stopped just say its hoing to renault for the work and mot?

 

[lemonnobby]

get it booked in for a mot and cancel when your there. but surely you need a mot anyway

 

[fez]

probably totally confused but if you know anyone with trade plates or even someone from the garage can they take collect it? as long as its on those plates. im sure I have seen new cars with no test tax being driven between garages etc ? sorry if thats confused matters :banghead:

 

[merf-172]

yeah thats what its going there for to get the belts, and cv boot done which it failed on mot, also has an airbag light and emmisions light up but i will get them taken off when it actually goes for the mot.

 

[djjonnibgood]

Our local dealer has a recovery truck, just ask your dealer they may have somebody with one that they use or have their own. I wouldn't chance it on an A road tbh if you do risk it get a mate infront and behind you and use the back roads

 

[merf-172]

will they charge extra for that? or is it more a case of how much lol

 

[M4D M4X]

The only way your legal to tow a vehicle now is on a dolly as the car is not under it's own propulsion e.g all wheels on the ground, my brother found that out and got band for "driving with no tax,mot,insurance" even though it was getting towed by a rope and he had insurance for his own car.
If you was closer i would've offered to take your car on my trailer.

If your going to risk it take the back roads and get mates with you, one in front and one behind but try not to draw attention to your self.

 

[merf-172]

jeez such a harsh penalty for a harmless offense! im trying to get hold of a trailer now one of my mates knows a friend with one so he's going to see if i can borrow it, fingers crossed! i would just rebook this but i managed to get the renault fixed price belt change and water pump for £499 before they changed it to exclude sports so i dont want to risk rebooking

 

[mad pierre]

It legal as long as it booked in. Ask the place your taking to to give you some paperwork stating the time, and their contact number if you get a pull show em that. Then IMO leave the car there, while you get a fresh tax disc, with your fresh MOT, go back job done.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_069671

 

[merf-172]

just spoken to my brother and he says that if you tow using an A-frame or similar the car can be classed as a trailer? longshot haha?

 

[ben lee]

you are covered to take it to a garage for mot repairs if ite pre booked.

 

[merf-172]

i thought so, it would be stupid if you couldnt take it to get repaired.

 

[Fred@BTM]

just do it, its not crime of the century!

 

[DomP182]

my brother drove his Fiat X19 less than 1/2 a mile in a small town to get work done on it for the mot, no tax no mot so therefore no insurance. He stalled and couldnt get it started on a roundabout 200 yards from the garage and a policewoman came to his aid - 6 points and a £300 fine!

 

[Martin.]

Don't risk it!

 

[Goodj]

Never mind about to the test cente, just drive about like normal.

It's only Tax, and legal roadworthyness. pft.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Book it in for an MOT at the garage that is fixing it, you are allowed to drive it there then.

 

[Chip-mk1]

just spoken to my brother and he says that if you tow using an A-frame or similar the car can be classed as a trailer? longshot haha?

A frames are illegal technically too, as the clio is too heavy for them.

 

[Chip-mk1]

you are covered to take it to a garage for mot repairs if ite pre booked.

This is incorrect I think, now that he has taken it elsewhere first?

You are allowed:
To drive to the MOT from wherever the car is
To drive from the MOT to wherever the car is ending up afterwards

You are not allowed to make any detours along the way, so if he went straight from the MOT to the garage it would be legal, but if he took the car home first then the next day takes it to the garage it is not. Thats my understanding anyway.




Edit, actually it would appear you are correct:

This is from the relevent section of law:

(3) Where the relevant certificate is refused on a compulsory test of a vehicle the vehicle is an exempt vehicle when it is being used solely for the purpose of—
(a) delivering it (by previous arrangement for a specified time on a specified date) at a place where relevant work is to be done on it, or
(b) bringing it away from a place where relevant work has been done on it.

I've always assumed that to mean only on its initial journey from the MOT, but TBH how its worded makes it sound like you can drive it to and from as many garages as you like. strange one!




One thing I do know is there is no distance limit, so weirdly you can live in scotland and book an MOT in london and be legal to drive there and back. bizarre set of laws really.

 

[Mells]

my brother drove his Fiat X19 less than 1/2 a mile in a small town to get work done on it for the mot, no tax no mot so therefore no insurance. He stalled and couldnt get it started on a roundabout 200 yards from the garage and a policewoman came to his aid - 6 points and a £300 fine!

Sounds like he had no insurance either...

Lol at everyone saying do it. So your ok paying for an mot and £245 road tax and letting him get away with it?

 

[djjonnibgood]

One thing I do know is there is no distance limit, so weirdly you can live in scotland and book an MOT in london and be legal to drive there and back. bizarre set of laws really.

I was always under the impression that you had to use your nearest test centre (or atleast one not too far away), because otherwise it would count as a detour due to the fact that all centres are suposed to be impartial and charge a recommended price (which i know in theory isn't the case)

 

[Chip-mk1]

I was always under the impression that you had to use your nearest test centre (or atleast one not too far away), because otherwise it would count as a detour due to the fact that all centres are suposed to be impartial and charge a recommended price (which i know in theory isn't the case)

No this is categorically not the case as it would be massively anti competitive.

I have had this in writing from the DVLA, I contact them when doing some work for a motoring mag when the question came up, you can drive 400 miles including on all road types (ie motorway too) if you wish, and its 100% legal.

Its a good way of getting a car home that isnt MOT'd or Tax'd in fact, go from glasgow to cornwall to fetch a car, book it in for an mot back in glasgow when you do so and you can legally drive it back no problem so long as its insured.

 

[djjonnibgood]

Fair enough, it is a little bizzare like you said in your last post. I wonder where the insurance companies stand on this, because they don't want to pay out at the best of times!

 

[Chip-mk1]

Fair enough, it is a little bizzare like you said in your last post. I wonder where the insurance companies stand on this, because they don't want to pay out at the best of times!

In this case they have no choice, you arent in breach of any contract etc.

 

[merf-172]

i did find it quite bizzare that folk were telling me to just do it haha as iv seen other people get so much abuse
i insured it this morning and took it, no cops or anything so got there with no hassle just a noisy uncomfortable drive

 

[Stig182]

just drive it, how many times have you been pulled up over the last few years. my god, i run around in a work van a few years back with an MOT 9 months out of date and TAX 6 months out, the owners severly overlooked this! i was obviously pissed off but just shows you dont get pulled up i never did

edit, good lad ^ lol

 

[Josh Youare]

You have to have insurance to drive to get it fixed/MOTed though. I used dayinsure and they will still cover a car without tax/MOT. Cost me £55 for one day though!

 

[Matty_N]

just drive it, how many times have you been pulled up over the last few years. my god, i run around in a work van a few years back with an MOT 9 months out of date and TAX 6 months out, the owners severly overlooked this! i was obviously pissed off but just shows you dont get pulled up i never did

edit, good lad ^ lol

A few years back, before the police fittted the vast majority of their traffic cars with ANPR cameras that will give them a cheesy grin inducing warning that you're vehicle is infact unroadworthy as you pass them...