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06 Albi Blue 197



Chris205

ClioSport Club Member
  Many Things
Just read the full project so far, seems like you're into the attention to detail things, I take my hat off to you and glad you're enjoying the 197. I take it you arent looking to move on as you've had it for over 3 months :)

I'd be too tempted to have the speedlines as the daily wheels as it looks so good.

Do you have any plans for suspension mods?
 
  Clio 197
Cheers! Had the car for around 7m now, still very fond of it.

I do really like the Speedlines, if some come up I might get a second set for daily use, but we will see, actually thinking about going back to silver Raiders.

RE: suspension, all I might do is replace with either new standard, or new Cup spec, possibly with Eibachs - don't really want to lower the car though as I have a couple of awkward surfaces to deal with on a regular basis, and occasionally kiss the ground with the rubber lip spoiler as it is, plus on my Eibach lowered Puma the cat used to catch on speed bumps, etc., I am quite enjoying not having to worry about that!
 
  Clio 197
Not updated this for a little while, nothing major has changed, but I have replaced the carpet due to a split behind the heel pad;

Front carpet out;

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Rear carpet out;

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New carpet in;

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Trim refitted;

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Couple of quick pics of how my footrest is fitted;

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and yes, I know I need to get some metal polish on my grubby pedals, all in good time!

And some more minor interior changes, forgive the filth, it needs vac'ing out.

I finally decided that I needed a steering wheel trim, and do rather like it, the angle makes the wheel look more dished I think.

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Also, major credit to Steve @ Edge Automotive for my alcantara stereo/clock display, gear knob and gaitor, which are really nice, top work Steve!

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I also had the seam moved around on the gear lever gaitor to make it better follow into the seam on the gear knob.

Any comments gratefully received!
 
  Clio 197
Unfortunately the little car gained a small war wound on the rear bumper a week or so ago, nothing major but the bumper is damaged. This prompted me to take the car to the garage to get the rear discs and pads changed, along with red calipers, cup springs and dampers, and track rods. Also gave me an opportunity to remove the dash strips to get them painted, and upper inlet manifold to get that powder coated. Once the mechanical stuff has been done it will be going to get the new rear bumper painted and the front bumper tarted up at the same time to remove stone chips, etc.

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Looking forward to seeing it fitted!
 
  Clio 197
A touch embarrassed at how long it has been since I last updated this!


So, what has happened since Feb?

Well three track events, two at Cadwell and one at Blyton, car performed really well.


Firstly shortly after the first Cadwell event one of my friends reversed into the Clio in the drive, which was annoying, damage was minor and limited to the rear bumper, but annoying nonetheless. This prompted the car to spend most of March in the garage, with the following results;


  • red front & rear calipers (from low mileage R27)
  • rear discs & pads
  • cup suspension
  • track rods & ends
  • new rear bumper
  • repainted front bumper
  • new front rubber lip spoiler
  • fixed slight blow on exhaust
  • repainted interior trims
  • Door alignment adjusted


I was so happy to have this back, really missed it. Plus I think the red calipers, anthracite wheels and albi blue paint look great against each other.


Gave the interior and engine bay a spruce up;


Firstly not the interior, but the engine bay, not particularly clean but at least presentable, and inlet manifold powder coated;


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Switching to the opposite end of the car, we have the boot, with Clio plush mat;


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And with full size spare;


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A few of the new dash trims;


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Next I had an issue with the A/C not working, we checked and there was no power going to the compressor. Harratts Wakey got the car in very promptly and reset the system. All was well for a little while and then the fault came back. Took the car back and a section of wiring loom was replaced for free! and touch wood all is still ok.


Mid April I managed to catch a rear wheel against a particularly long pump island, so decided to get my track Speedlines refurbished, swapped the tyres around and use them on the road instead.


Couple of exterior pics, not great but the car looks quite good;


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We don't usually wedge both in like that, this was just to see if we could actually fit two cars in the "double" garage.


Couple more pics, playing with the settings with my bog standard Kodak, rear arch looks very flared in this one


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LED no. plate lights


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Next I got bitten by the LED bug, changed the interior lighting on both cars. I have an argument for it though - it will drain the battery less if I forget to shut a door or leave a light on. More of an issue on the Honda TBH but I do like the white light (oh and I later found out that the Clio turns all the lights out, even map lights, when you lock it, so not really a benefit...).


Got another TPMS system so I can have one with each set of wheels (12 spokes w/R888's and Speedies w/CS3's).
 
  Clio 197
Following on from the issues with the climate control, and given that it had been almost 12m since the car was last serviced, I decided to change the cabin filter. I have had one knocking around for a while so it was just a case of getting around to it.


I read the guides, though they didn't really illustrate quite the extent to which you have to fold yourself up to get into the footwell and get the bloody thing out, or how awkward it is to get the new one in. Not difficult, just fiddly.


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Looks like it was due for a change!


Interestingly though both were genuine Renault, the construction was quite different. I am assured this is just due to parts being superseded, and in any case the clean filter must be better than the filthy old thing.


New wheels;


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Not entirely sure about the shade but it'll do for now - my previous powder coater is having some issues so I went elsewhere and while the service was ok, price not too much more, the shade isn't quite the same as before.


Conti's have a nice slight stretch on the 8J wheels, perhaps not clear from the pics.


I also had a go at fitting the half cage, but gave up and put the seats back in - partly due to running short on time and partly down to having a lot of miles to do this week and I reckon it will be more comfortable with seats blocking some of the noise.
 
  Clio 197
Minor updates;


30/5/11
Not done much with the car recently, had a nice gentle drive down to Bristol and back last week, slightly disappointing economy though as I only got 34mpg out of the tank, despite driving as though Miss Daisy was in the car.


What was annoying was a couple of rattles, one from the glovebox, another from the phone bracket and a third from the steering column cowling. With this in mind I set to this evening, discovered some bolts and the cigar lighter at the back of the glovebox, so hopefully that will have solved that. I then stripped part of the drivers dash apart and refitted using some anti-ratttle tape, which I also used on the phone and nav brackets, so fingers crossed the rattles will now be resolved.


Might have another from the n/s/r quarter, which I partly removed when looking at fitting the cage, so that might be coming out to be refitted shortly.


6/6/11
Changed my lower engine mount on Saturday for one from a lower mileage car, just a bit of preventative maintenance.


Had an appointment in the peak district this morning, thoroughly enjoyed the car both ways, must have said to myself several times that I really love this car.


Also just checked and I have now had the car for nearly a year, and I still love it. I am going to do over 800 miles in this car over the next three days and am really looking forward to it!


7/6/11
Cheers!


Covered around 350 miles today, car was perfect. Will be doing a lot more miles tomorrow so long may it continue!


Need to get a filter and some oil ordered for its service later this month after the Blyton Park track day.


8/6/11
So today I achieved the 450 mile tank of petrol, very please with myself, 38.1mpg!


I have done well over 1,000 miles in the car since Saturday, and over 400 miles just today. What a great car, refined and responsive enough with the cruise set at 70 on the motorway, and a complete hoot on windy A roads, plus a 3rd gear that is awesome for overtaking!


On the downside the "Service Due Soon" warning came on around 250 miles ago, which I think will have been 11,000 miles after it was last serviced. I am assuming it will change at 12,000 miles to service due now or similar. The oil was changed about 4,500 miles ago, so there is no great urgency but in any case it is booked in for 27th.


14/6/11
Little car did really well at Cadwell last night, the Toyos probably helped but the car was great. Took a couple of mates with me, one of whom is more of a biker and he was astounded about how it went around corners. I seemed to have forgotten most of what the instructor had told me last time, so I think the next time I book a day at Cadwell, I will try to get an instructor booked early on so I can practice for the rest of the day.


Also, got the tyres filled with nitrogen yesterday morning, adjusted them later when cold, 33PSI @ 20C = 40PSI @ 50C, so much for nitrogen not expanding!


Brakes continue to impress, there are a couple of places where I could brake harder and later, and once or twice I overbraked going into Park. At times it felt like there was a touch of debris stuck to the disc but this soon cleaned itself up. No fade though and good feel, despite standard pads and standard brake lines. I am probably going to whip the pads out to check them over when I change the wheels back later this week.


This was my first track event with the 197 Cup chassis, and to be honest I couldn't notice much if any difference. One day I will get the 200 Cup steering rack fitted and will see if that makes much difference. Not that I am at all dissatisfied with things as they are, as the car does seem really well setup for road and track use.


What was interesting was just how twitchy the rear ends of other FWD french stuff seemed to be, 1*2's, Saxos, 306's, I guess that just means they were trying harder than me!


In any case, a terrific evening and excellent fun. If you have one of these cars and don't use it on the track then you are really missing out.


Oh, and 12.9MPG on track, based on 9 road miles and 71 track miles.


19/6/11
Swapped the wheels back, leaky valve on one of the Toyos so waiting for a replacement.


While the wheels were off all of them got a wash inside and out, and I took the opportunity to strip down and clean the front calipers, with liberal use of copper grease.


Then today the car got a wash, wheels off again, cleaned the arch liners with AG engine & machine cleaner, wiped down the calipers again (this time cunningly not in the dark) and touched up a few marks with some red hammerite; it isn't a perfect match but should be fine.


While I was cleaning the arches, I noticed some muck and debris inside the o/s sill trim, cue removing the rearmost three bolts and unclipping enough to spray the hose in and clear out the debris. Tried the same on the n/s, very little muck in there, but may have broken one of the clips so will get a few replacements just in case.


Service a week tomorrow, bit more track action beforehand at Blyton on Sunday.


No pics from today, calipers look good but the discs look oxidised as I didn't want to drive the car to clean them until the paint was properly dry.


21/6/11
Ok, some pics, firstly from Cadwell, apologies for the poor quality;


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And with the freshly touched up brakes;


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Few pics from Blyton today, my first time there and my wife's first track event;


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Car went well, circuit is a bit tight for my liking, prefer Cadwell, but we still had a lot of fun. Harder on the brakes than Cadwell, and it was a really hot day, but the car still didn't miss a beat. Only issue we had was heat soak from the hot front brakes into the front wheels, confusing the TPMS system.


There were some quick cars there, two that really impressed were a Mk2 XR2 in red, not sure how standard, and a pretty stripped Escort GTi, which I hadn't expected much of but was rather quick for what it is.

Not been upto much since Blyton, replaced the front pads with some standard Brembo pads. They feel very similar to the OE Brembo/Ferodo pads but I am thinking that I might be better biting the bullet and going for DS2500's.


I needed new pads because despite there being plenty of meat left on my old ones they were starting to crack, and one of them had a bit missing;


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The previous pads were genuine Renault ones, Brembo branded but made by Ferodo, type 4446. I didn't want to spend the £80 for genuine Renault so I got some Brembo pads from a motor factor for £37.


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Took the car for a short drive after fitting, they feel fine, but I guess the proof will be how they perform when I get some real heat into them.


I got a massive 8,000 miles out of the last set so if I can get closer to 25k out of some DS2500's then they would be better value in the long run.
 
  Clio 197
And finally upto date!

Gave the car some attention today;


Wash with Zymol, 2 bucket method obviously
Dry with AutoGlym synthetic chamois thing
Clay with Bilt Hamber soft (very sticky when dry)
Polish with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze
Wax with Chemical Guys 50/50 Ltd Edition then Chemical Guys Pro Detailer


Big thanks to RussZS in this post - http://www.clio197.net/forum/showthread.php?t=14118 for the recommendations. I did also get some Dodo Juice Lime Prime but didn't get on with it as well as I get on with the Hand Glaze, though the Lime Prime is definitely easier to use.

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  Clio 197
Bit more of an update;


MoT in August picked up an advisory for one of the o/s ball joints, but otherwise all good.


I was on holiday in July and bought myself a present, just had to work out where to mount it;


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I did have it just clamped to the surround but having trialled it on a long drive, it slipped over time, due to the wedge shape. Also I had the reflection of the screen vents which was annoying. As you can see above I then modified the clock surround to give the camera a flat mounting and position it closer to the screen. This will hopefully minimise reflections (still there a bit), shouldn't get loose, and seems to be quite secure. Looking forward to trying it out on a TD @ Cadwell in September.


September 2011


Spotted a slight scuff to one of the rear wheels, given that I am not over keen on the colour I think these might get swapped before too long, need to recover from the parts costs for the ball joint (below) first though!


Time for the car to return to the garage, cracked manifold where the two centre pipes meet the flange, fortunately it is a mild steel manifold so it could be welded. Given the level of stripping down required it seemed like an ideal opportunity to get the 200 Cup steering rack fitted, along with a front ARB from a Clio X85 Cup racer. At the same time I wanted to get the ball joint sorted, which turned into a very expensive affair as the ball joint is part of the hub carrier (£170) and is held to another part by a pinch bolt that would not free off, cue another £170 part.


Got the car back and it doesn't really seem much different, however to be fair compared to the 1995 BeBop mentioned at the beginning of the tread, which I drove immediately before collecting the car following these works, anything feels tight! Just had a few heat shield vibrations that I am hoping to get sorted before heading to Cadwell on 13th.


Initial impressions suggest that the car is understeering more, which had I researched getting a thicker ARB I would have realised was a common result. Unfortunatley it was all a bit of a rush to get the car into the garage to get the manifold done and the ARB was very much spur of the moment because we were dropping the subframe anyway so it made sense to do it at the same time.


There are ways to counteract the understeer, such as adjusting toe out, increasing track, etc. but I don't really want to go down that road. Current plan is to refit the standard ARB, though I may try adding a rear one first.


The car performed faultlessly at Cadwell on Tuesday, though I did struggle getting the power down coming out of Barn, and seemed to have more understeer through Chris Curve, overall though a pretty great day, despite early afternoon showers.


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And more excitingly, some footage! Firstly from a 306 GTi-6 that was following me early in the day;


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Granted some of the lines are a bit dubious, but still well chuffed!


And secondly some that I filmed with my Contour;


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Comments and criticism always welcome.


Thanks for looking!
 
  Listerine & Poledo
Love your motor, the alcantara additions are great too.

But how much stuff are you going to hang off of your dash! :)
 


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