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good point and also most cars don't generate downforce they generate lift so the air under the car isn't negative pressure or is it?

not just for low boost on sts website they have a customer who has run a 8.87 second quarter ! http://www.ststurbo.com/fast_customers

. since i read about the rear mount thing in PPC i have read a lot of posts on a lot of forums it generates a lot of haters and comments where people don't think - i have to admit to becoming a bit of rear mount advocate wot do you reckon about them ?

are your tyres within 3% of the original rolling radius? all to often alloy wheel companies sell the cheapest tyres in the wrong size. worth checking.

"You want to use this naff all airflow to spin up a turbo? You're mad!" no one said i wanted to and after all your started it... little bit of sarcasm and you think i have a bad attitude. clearly there is not naff all air flow other wise these systems wouldn't work. Also i have not been...

i guess the argument is though there is more than enough energy left and with cooler charges it's not so crazy as it seems. the engine breathes better as well with a proper manifold - it seems more like an exhaust driven supercharger without the losses

and this is where it is interesting as the american company claim more power per pound of boost - more efficiency ;-)

by your rational things are only worth doing if they are done in the most efficient manner. just annoys me when you get haters on something that looks interesting and clearly works.

rear mount turbos?

i stand corrected it was late. still not as far off as your 35 litres was it!

yeah just like brake lines. best to stick with just front brakes.

that's because it's on tickover.... why don't you try going flat out wedge the throttle and then climb out the window over the car and then try that. owe you fell off. shame.

sage like advice there.....

easy. it's too low. roll centre below ground. more body roll. raise it up - end of problem.

agree. pulling to the left or right though is nothing to do with tracking like some have mentioned if the car pulls left or right it's either camber of the road or something is bent or worn - eg wishbone. sounds to me like you have too much toe in or toe out as previously mentioned. most...

yes sorry that was not a necessary adjective apologies.

"Think of the lag that system would create! " the point i am trying to make is people don't do that. they don't think. they just talk.

hilarious. that would mean a 2 " pipe nearly 45 metres long !! if a clio is 4.2 m long a 2 pipe running the length of the car would be 3.3 litres in volume in a traditional set up lets say it was 1.5m (no FMIC here) then that would be 1.18 litres. at 200 hp lets say roughly 200cfm that...

what are you rambling on about? no one is saying it's better or worse than front mount here just trying to bring some sanity to the post ! if you look at some of the dyno results of these you will see they deliver as much or more hp per lb of boost at the engine. success or failure? yes the...

again define huge? you are speaking without thinking !!!!

how would you define success or failure with a rear mount turbo?

that is true you do lose a lot of energy but there is lots to spare. if it didn't work then fair enough but it does. the mag said no more lag than a normal turbo

roll centres? bump steer? bump stops? or just show and no go? the eibach pro-kits are designed to optimise handling with std rod ends and without moving pick up points. lowering more on macpherson strut front end worsens handling. i'd love to see one of those 100mm drop car's try and keep up...

i've just reread the magazine and they loved it?! also these things are big in the states where there's no room under the bonnet on big v8's and the clio isn't exactly brimming with space under the bonnet

given all the money you'd spend on brakes suspension etc etc i can't see it making financial sense. besides you have to notify dvla of changes otherwise come mot time (unless you have a blind mot tester) you will likely get rumbled

Yellow Dave Re: Rear Mounted Turbos I read about that long ago and it never took off. Apparently the drive was absolutely aweful. Think of the lag that system would create! Not an ideal place to be having vunerable pipework running under the car either. And an airfilter under the rear beam...

not sure haven't bought it yet!

An adjustable rear bar is one of the only ways (apart from adjustable front!) to change the handling balance and therefore optimise front and rear grip. granted too much rear roll stiffness will turn it into a three wheeler but very few front drive cars don't benefit from this kind of mod.

they shouldn't be level. you need rake to prevent lift (aerodynamic). If you lower any MacStrut car so the wishbone points up at the outboard end then the roll centre goes below ground. This generates massive weight transfer at the front end, understeer and if you go fast enough weight jacking...

there's a lot of talk of big drops on the front - all that is going to to is generate is more understeer - looks cool but handling suffers!