can i achieve 14.38 sec @ 97.89 mph ?

[Šįk]

hey,

going to my second 1/4 mile run this next weekend and have done the following to the car.. as you can see im bored so having a play with figures lol showing you guys how i have worked it all out to see if you guys agree...

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standard weight before ductions = 1110kg

Changed wheels

original 5 spoke 172 alloys (incl. tyres) 5 x 18kg = 90kg
Mag Oz F1s (incl. tyres) 4 x 13.5kg = 54kg
54kg - 90kg = 36kg
= 36kg

Removed rear interioir = 34kg

ok so far we have :36kg + 34kg = 70kg, 70kg- 1110kg = 1040kg

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standard bhp before updgrades.. = 177bhp (rolling road figure before mods were fitted)

removed acoustic valve = ~1bhp
pannel filter = ~2bhp
zorst system = ~5bhp
matched inlets = ~8bhp

~177bhp + ~2bhp + ~5bhp + ~8bhp = ~193bhp

total estimated added bhp = ~193 bhp (bit optimistic i think)

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now tbh.. i done believe my car will be running 193bhp,i think it will be running around ~185bhp.. would be amazing if it did run 193bhp!! lol


Power at Flywheel : 185 bhp
Weight without Driver : 1040kg

-Power to Weight Ratio : 180.74 BHP Per Ton

-0 - 60 : 6.16 Seconds

-0 - 100 : 15.766 Seconds

-0 - 100 : 9.59 Seconds

-Quarter Mile : 14.58 seconds

-Terminal Speed : 96.18 mph

-Drag Strip Quarter Mile : 14.38 seconds

-Drag Strip Terminal Speed : 97.89 mph



do you guys think i could do my quater mile run around these times!? ino there not 100% accurate just playing with figures to see what i can aim for on the day.. will be interesting to see what i actually get all being a fair good day weather wise etc..

or is everything i have put above all optimistic!?


1st time i did a quater mile run i got 15.6 @ 86mph ... car had blown exhaust system, desperatly due a service and weighed 1080kg and didnt have any of the engine mods..

do you think i can achieve 14.38 @ 97.89 is it possible from what i have done!?

thoughts...?

 

[Gumby]

Doesn't an engine need to be remapped to take advantage of any benefits that any mods may offer?

 

[Šįk]

Doesn't an engine need to be remapped to take advantage of any benefits that any mods may offer?

hope not lol, feels quicker :S

 

[W111ALG]

Id be surprised if your Bhp was over 182/3ish at the very most!

 

[iimushroomzii]

I wouldn't say about 10bhp (if your lucky) would make that much difference!

 

[Greeny.]

No chance sorry, and the RR figure looks a little high tbh. Your probably running 175bhp MAX atm.

Nearly every 172/182 is under powered, so 168bhp standard on a 172, so how it ever made 177bhp standard is laughable im sorry. Also your figures for your upgrades are somewhat wishful thinking.

Not trying to be an arse, just realistic.

 

[DeanGTi]

No. Imo you will be luckly to get a 14.7

 

[Gaz_]

removed acoustic valve = ~1bhp
pannel filter = ~2bhp
zorst system = ~5bhp
matched inlets = ~8bhp


Id say the lot together ~ 5bhp. Zorsts cal actually lose some bhp......

 

[Šįk]

lol, so f**king depressing... i am atleast hoping i get into the 14s..

im going to be going up against my cuz in his alfa GTA lol!!! want to try and keep up with him as much as poss lol hehehehe!

 

[Greeny.]

lol, so f**king depressing... i am atleast hoping i get into the 14s..

Hope you do mate, but will be high 14's! Best I had was 15.4 2 years ago but with bad driving and a dire cat back

Take out your passengers seat btw, they weigh so much.

 

[iimushroomzii]

Remove as much weight as you can first mate! Need the pass seat? Get it out!

 

[Greeny.]

Remove as much weight as you can first mate! Need the pass seat? Get it out!

High five!

 

[iimushroomzii]

:approve:

 

[Šįk]

thing is,i want to see what my car can get as i use the car daily... i want to know whats the best time i can get with my as it is as my daily driving car.. i wont need my passenger seat on the day of the run but will need it most other days.. and then it wouldnt be a true figure if you get me becuase thr front seat would be back in the next day...??

 

[Greeny.]

thing is,i want to see what my car can get as i use the car daily... i want to know whats the best time i can get with my as it is as my daily driving car.. i wont need my passenger seat on the day of the run but will need it most other days.. and then it wouldnt be a true figure if you get me becuase thr front seat would be back in the next day...??

Do you do many 1/4 mile standing starts in day to day driving? Gives a s**t, get the best result you can like everyone else does?

 

[kevin.s]

i just ran a 15.8 with full interior, blowing exhust and a f**ked dephaser pulley so i would be hoping for low 15`s next time.

 

[Greeny.]

Its all down the driver as well, I had 4 runs and couldnt get that near 15.4 again Im just crap though, clearly.

 

[jamier27]

No chance sorry, and the RR figure looks a little high tbh. Your probably running 175bhp MAX atm.

Nearly every 172/182 is under powered, so 168bhp standard on a 172, so how it ever made 177bhp standard is laughable im sorry. Also your figures for your upgrades are somewhat wishful thinking.

Not trying to be an arse, just realistic.

with all due respect i think piers's 172 could have been mapped once in its life already as it does seem very quick compared to my old 197... could be wrong but the 177bhp on the RR would be about right if it was mapped?
I would be happy with the 14.3 @ 97.89mph! I think you should aim for brakeing under the 15s mark which i think could be more realistic.

you are aiming to high :rasp:

 

[Šįk]

ino it wont happen, but i would just love to see your face if i beat you in your gta! hahahahahaha!!! bye bye.. lol.

 

[Greeny.]

with all due respect i think piers's 172 could have been mapped once in its life already as it does seem very quick compared to my old 197... could be wrong but the 177bhp on the RR would be about right if it was mapped?
I would be happy with the 14.3 @ 97.89mph! I think you should aim for brakeing under the 15s mark which i think could be more realistic.

you are aiming to high :rasp:

Well ive never EVER seen a standard 172 make that much standard, most mildly modded ones dont even make that figure on a reliable/realistic RR. Even with a map, what would it be mapped for? Standard? lol?

 

[Mike@Rentech]

mm.. I run 13.98 and 0-60 in 5.8 secs in a full fat 172 with exhaust/remap and laughing gas and that took around 6 attempts.
You might be lucky if you get your tyres up to temp and get a perfect start.

 

[Nick172Cup]

I got a 14.85 at 90 mph in my old 16v... Just stripped with an exhaust, get a good start and it could be possible. Would of thought it was easily achievable....

 

[Šįk]

whats the key to a perfect start?

 

[Nick172Cup]

Right amount of revs and good reaction time was mine! I didnt do a massive burnout either to make the tyres warm as I feel a little bit of wheelspin whilst launching was returning better times than bogging down or slipping the clutch loads...

 

[Šįk]

last time i was setting off at around 2-3k but bad clutch control tho as i didnt drop the b**ch due to not wanting to stall lol.. think this could be my weak point.. poor launch..

i did do a practice launch (up from my house) at 4k then droped the clutch but the car shouted and called me a c**t, so i am not doing that again

 

[Greeny.]

lol

 

[Tucker]

what tyres you running under all that tyre shine?

 

[Šįk]

lol, budget ones called ZEXEN.. seem to be good for day to day driving seem to be fine and i drive my car hard for road use.. i had them when i ran last time.. i am very much a rookie when it comes to 1/4miles

i want R888s

 

[Tucker]

errrr oz f1's are 6.5j too right?

good luck with that

 

[Šįk]

lol what do you mean!?

 

[dk]

i did a 15.1 in my standard 182 at pod, was under 0 degrees so the strip was slippy and they had just got rid of all the rubber on the track so i think i did pretty well considering i weigh the same as two people too

 

[Chris n nic]

Std can be anything from high 15's to 14.6's. With your mods I think mid 14's at best tbh....but won't be 97mph..more likely 93 I reckon....The GTA will probably be low to mid 14's but a better speed, just over 100.


Chris

 

[Šįk]

Well I think the gta will be simuler to the mk1 focus rs I went against on my 1st go.. Scrant it to 60 but then it scrant me to finish line LOL, gta and a good frs has same spec acording to evo so I'd imagin it would be a repeat of that LOL!

 

[Tav]

Considering a 182 is suppose to have near 177bhp as standard...(178/179) there is no way a 172 is going to have that much.

 

[Eckascliovalver]

Considering a 182 is suppose to have near 177bhp as standard...(178/179) there is no way a 172 is going to have that much.

Every car is different. I seen Mark aka rufstuf's cup pull 178bhp on the rollers with an exhaust, decat an panel filter, other 172's before and after on the same day were making book figures with same modifications


Point is you just never know!

 

[Greeny.]

lol 178bhp with filter and exhaust

 

[Eckascliovalver]

lol 178bhp with filter and exhaust

Yup no-one could believe it. Even him!

 

[Greeny.]

Yup no-one could believe it. Even him!

Gotta be a dodgy at the fly calculation, what was the atw figure?

 

[lee131]

had similar in the past 2 nigh on identical cars one was 125 bhp one was 139 bhp, but up the strip it was .70 differance with the same driver (me)

 

[Greeny.]

had similar in the past 2 nigh on identical cars one was 125 bhp one was 139 bhp, but up the strip it was .70 differance with the same driver (me)

Which shows the figures where b****cks?!