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Kenny's Kup
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Just sat and read this whole thread in my lunch break
Mind numbing attention to detail, absolutely awesome.
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Clio 172
Just sat and read this whole thread in my lunch break
Mind numbing attention to detail, absolutely awesome.
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All day lunch break Phil?
LOL I work very flexible hours - but managed to get it in an hour. I only read Kenny's updates - not the replies/comments/feedback
Cheers again for the comments lads.
Believe it or not this was the product of 9hrs work yesterday, very slow progress but i've been double checking everything as I go and so far no mistakes. This is just the control wiring, once I've got all that laid in I'll move onto the power.
I'm probably going to make a test rig so I can power this up, test all the outputs and simulate ECU inputs to prove it's all good before the ECU goes near it then I can make a start on the main looms.
Believe it or not this was the product of 9hrs work yesterday, very slow progress but i've been double checking everything as I go and so far no mistakes. This is just the control wiring, once I've got all that laid in I'll move onto the power.
I'm probably going to make a test rig so I can power this up, test all the outputs and simulate ECU inputs to prove it's all good before the ECU goes near it then I can make a start on the main looms.
Just when I was starting to make some good progress on the wiring, it was time to go back to work! Possibly not all bad though, i'll be looking at it with fresh eyes when I go back so good opportunity to spot any mistakes.
Pretty much where I got to before I left,
Nylon Rack Bushes
For those interested in these, I spoke to the guy at the start of the week, the first set has been made so I'll get a look and try them when I get home, if everything is good i'll ask him to make a few more sets. Should be able to do them for about £40-45 +postage
Pretty much where I got to before I left,
Nylon Rack Bushes
For those interested in these, I spoke to the guy at the start of the week, the first set has been made so I'll get a look and try them when I get home, if everything is good i'll ask him to make a few more sets. Should be able to do them for about £40-45 +postage
It'll still have a tiny little bit of 'give' in them but for all intents and purposes, the rack will be solid mounted.
I've spoken to a few guys who were involved in running the Cup Racers and they were adamant that the rack moved axially in its mounts. Given the rules, they weren't allowed to change parts so they resorted to glueing the rack into the mounts with epoxy or araldite! One of the guys also said they fitted a second bulkhead skin to stop it flexing and seemingly this made a big difference.
I've spoken to a few guys who were involved in running the Cup Racers and they were adamant that the rack moved axially in its mounts. Given the rules, they weren't allowed to change parts so they resorted to glueing the rack into the mounts with epoxy or araldite! One of the guys also said they fitted a second bulkhead skin to stop it flexing and seemingly this made a big difference.
182cup & 172 racecar
On a race car, everything is a consumable.
Remember that.
Remember that.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
It all depends on who you speak to at R-sport kenny as one of the guys who works there is a real pita to deal with tbh! And that's possibly the kindest word I'll say of him!!
That may well be something to do with it!! I've never found them very helpful any time I've phoned. I quite possibly just got fobbed off or they dont know what the road car actually had?
I remember Ian tried to order a new upright for his rally car and they supplied a new 182 upright !!??
Even if it turns out they do sell them, i'm still going to carry on and offer these to folk who are interested, it's not really cost me much in the grand scheme of things to have the first set made and I know I can get more made easily if and when they're needed.
I remember Ian tried to order a new upright for his rally car and they supplied a new 182 upright !!??
Even if it turns out they do sell them, i'm still going to carry on and offer these to folk who are interested, it's not really cost me much in the grand scheme of things to have the first set made and I know I can get more made easily if and when they're needed.
NorthloopCup
ClioSport Moderator
I'm still interested in having a set off you mate.
Yeah iirc it was P@blo on here that got a set and had all the part numbers, wether it was cup racer, s1600, group n etc I'm not sure. I 2nd the r-sport service, I have waited weeks for them to come back with prices, all the guys sound old and complacent in their jobs tbh.
As you say Kenny if its not cost you much then get some made, at least you know you will have an endless supply in the future.
As you say Kenny if its not cost you much then get some made, at least you know you will have an endless supply in the future.
I've been busy making trailer for a friends boat since I got home, as usual its taken longer than planned so I only got the cover off the car on Wednesday afternoon, back to work next week but heyho.
Given that I've been short of time I asked the machine shop to post out the first set of rack bushes to save me a drive. If he's going to make enough of them he'll make up a jig to slice them exactly in half so they can be mixed, this set are matched pairs as indicated by the coloured dots.
The offside bush is a nice tight fit into the rack and needs the saddle clamp to draw it in, its not overly tight, just what you'd want to ensure there's not play in it.
If anyone is interested in a set send me a PM. I'm still hoping to keep pricing around the £40-45 + postage. Once I get a better idea of how many sets we're talking about ill speak to the machine shop again and see what they can do on the price.
Kenny.
Given that I've been short of time I asked the machine shop to post out the first set of rack bushes to save me a drive. If he's going to make enough of them he'll make up a jig to slice them exactly in half so they can be mixed, this set are matched pairs as indicated by the coloured dots.
The offside bush is a nice tight fit into the rack and needs the saddle clamp to draw it in, its not overly tight, just what you'd want to ensure there's not play in it.
If anyone is interested in a set send me a PM. I'm still hoping to keep pricing around the £40-45 + postage. Once I get a better idea of how many sets we're talking about ill speak to the machine shop again and see what they can do on the price.
Kenny.
Wee update:
Seeing as I've now got fibreglass doors it seemed rude not to go the whole hog and do the bonnet and tailgate too.
I tried to get hold of Hal but after 3 weeks of trying I figured I wasn't going to so decided to look elsewhere.
After a bit of searching the only other places that seemed to offer panels for the Clio where Xsport Racing and MC Racing in France.
Xsport racing never replied either but thankfully the lads at MC Racing did, and quickly too, Google translate ftw! both ways at times I suspect lol
The bonnet and tailgate arrived today in a huge cardboard box, cant fault them on the packing. The finish quality isn't quite as good as the doors from CM Composites but it's nothing that a bit of sanding and high build primer wouldnt fix, and besides, it's a race car not a show'n'shine.
The best bit though is the weight, or lack of! The bonnet is 3.7kgs, tailgate 2.7kgs
I suspect the bonnet is going to change shape the faster you go but i'll live with it for that sort of weight saving. Will get a few pictures up tomorrow if I remember. Nearly time to go back to work :dapprove:
Seeing as I've now got fibreglass doors it seemed rude not to go the whole hog and do the bonnet and tailgate too.
I tried to get hold of Hal but after 3 weeks of trying I figured I wasn't going to so decided to look elsewhere.
After a bit of searching the only other places that seemed to offer panels for the Clio where Xsport Racing and MC Racing in France.
Xsport racing never replied either but thankfully the lads at MC Racing did, and quickly too, Google translate ftw! both ways at times I suspect lol
The bonnet and tailgate arrived today in a huge cardboard box, cant fault them on the packing. The finish quality isn't quite as good as the doors from CM Composites but it's nothing that a bit of sanding and high build primer wouldnt fix, and besides, it's a race car not a show'n'shine.
The best bit though is the weight, or lack of! The bonnet is 3.7kgs, tailgate 2.7kgs
I suspect the bonnet is going to change shape the faster you go but i'll live with it for that sort of weight saving. Will get a few pictures up tomorrow if I remember. Nearly time to go back to work :dapprove:
They a are very light. I think the ones I have from Hal are about 6 kg each.
Yeah, when I was opening the box I honestly thought they'd just sent the bonnet, found something to stiffen the bonnet skin with minimal weight so all good.
Weighed the doors last night, I got just over 6kgs but my wee digital scales are just about maxed at that so maybe a little off.
Weighed the doors last night, I got just over 6kgs but my wee digital scales are just about maxed at that so maybe a little off.
Hi mate this used to be my girlfriends car.
was a great wee car she had it when it was tree years old.
She was a bit taken back by your build thread but i explained to her what you were trying to achive.
If your going to make it to knock hill this year if you could give me a shout as she was very sentimental about it as it was her first car.
was a great wee car she had it when it was tree years old.
She was a bit taken back by your build thread but i explained to her what you were trying to achive.
If your going to make it to knock hill this year if you could give me a shout as she was very sentimental about it as it was her first car.
I also know someone who had it as a courtesy car from Ness motors, not sure what year that was though, i'd need to ask him again. Where did she buy it from?
If I get it finished this year i'll certainly be aiming to get it out somewhere for a shake down, might be Kames first as it's easier to get a day down there when it's quieter and have more time to iron out niggles etc.
If I get it finished this year i'll certainly be aiming to get it out somewhere for a shake down, might be Kames first as it's easier to get a day down there when it's quieter and have more time to iron out niggles etc.
Only home for 12 days this time, more like 11 now
I've got loads of other stuff to get on with so not overly confident about getting much done on the car.
That said I had a few things sitting waiting when I got home, top mounts back from being nickel plated
Hoping to get a bit more wiring done and then make some preparations for painting the next time i'm home.
I've got loads of other stuff to get on with so not overly confident about getting much done on the car.
That said I had a few things sitting waiting when I got home, top mounts back from being nickel plated
Hoping to get a bit more wiring done and then make some preparations for painting the next time i'm home.
182cup & 172 racecar
Very nice indeed.
Finally..... the switch panel is finished, assuming there are no mistakes that is hahah. I've been through it once already with the multimeter and all seems good but I'll go through everything again tomorrow with a fresh check sheet just to make sure.
Those who dont like cable ties, look away now lol, I did consider lacing cord but then I gave myself a slap
Not sure what to tackle next, there are a few small bits of the wiring looms I could probably do in the time I've got left before I need to go back offshore.
Those who dont like cable ties, look away now lol, I did consider lacing cord but then I gave myself a slap
Not sure what to tackle next, there are a few small bits of the wiring looms I could probably do in the time I've got left before I need to go back offshore.
182cup & 172 racecar
Foook me, you building a computer.
Good work though.
Good work though.
Cable ties, it's all in the name
I was thinking of doing my wiring all in one colour but your pictures have scared me lol. I can't wait to see the front of the panel!
Great work as always.
I was thinking of doing my wiring all in one colour but your pictures have scared me lol. I can't wait to see the front of the panel!
Great work as always.
Wow, what a lump! You must be putting in a good amount of hours to do that
There's nothing to be concerned about by using one wire colour, if you number the ends it's far better than using different colours/tracer combinations imho. With proper diagrams it's a doddle to trace things and you can quickly pin point any faults or issues. The main reason I used one colour however was down to cost, I wanted to use Raychem44 for everything, as it stands I've got a reel of 20awg and a reel of 16awg, start adding in multiple colours and that gets very expensive.
I thought i'd put up a picture of the front recently? I'll put it all in the car tomorrow but it's basically as it is here
I thought i'd put up a picture of the front recently? I'll put it all in the car tomorrow but it's basically as it is here
Yeah it is a fair old lump but if you consider its basically the entire electircal system for the car, bar the ECU compressed into one unit, it's not actually too bad.
Time to wire it all, I'm honestly not sure but i'd take a wild guess at something around 60-70hrs?
Renault clio sport
What a great build. Enjoyed the read kenny amazing work you've done. Can't wait to see the finishes product !!!! Good luck
