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197/200s eat gear boxs too as well as being very hard on fuel but there very nice cars
Suzuki Jimny
Most 200s are still in very good order for steering components etc, most 172 cups arent.
The 200 does have an edge on handling, but if the 172 has been refreshed its very close IMHO.
Gaz_
ClioSport Club Member
Extreme mode
They fell less 'raw' (rattley 
) but are a better car day to day, and with the Recaros are full of win. In the flesh the mk3 has presence the mk2 could only dream of.
Despite the bollox written by fan boys on here there is no night/day difference between a cupped 197 to 200. Think 172 to 182. The better thing about the 200 is quicker rack on the cupped versions. 1st 2nd and 3rd are slightly shorter to help it. Once wound up they all feel the same, like with any rs you get good and bad ones power wise. 200 has downs and theres no getting away from it.
) but are a better car day to day, and with the Recaros are full of win. In the flesh the mk3 has presence the mk2 could only dream of. Despite the bollox written by fan boys on here there is no night/day difference between a cupped 197 to 200. Think 172 to 182. The better thing about the 200 is quicker rack on the cupped versions. 1st 2nd and 3rd are slightly shorter to help it. Once wound up they all feel the same, like with any rs you get good and bad ones power wise. 200 has downs and theres no getting away from it.
Golf 7.5R & Clio 200
Be prepaired for 24 MPG normal driving.
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
06- standard 197 with limited options
07- f1 team r27
introduced the cup chassis (identified by red brembos and Anth alloys), had recaros as standard and was available in liquid yellow.
08- 197 cup and cup chassis option iintroduced
the cup is identified by the cup chassis and the black bump strips and black wing mirrors
The same goes for the 200, bar the r27 option lol
07- f1 team r27
introduced the cup chassis (identified by red brembos and Anth alloys), had recaros as standard and was available in liquid yellow.
08- 197 cup and cup chassis option iintroduced
the cup is identified by the cup chassis and the black bump strips and black wing mirrors
The same goes for the 200, bar the r27 option lol
Starlet_gt
ClioSport Club Member
VW T5.1
Golf 7.5R & Clio 200
My commute is 7 miles away, all 30 limits except about 2 miles on a 50 road (thats normally traffic). Think I own the wrong car tbh haha
I easily get mine down to 25/26. It's actually worse when you get onto open roads for me, mpg goes down where it would go up in any other car. Bizarre
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
I saw 38.5 mpg today lol. It's settled on 33.3
the trick is to drive like miss daisy for 10 miles
the trick is to drive like miss daisy for 10 miles
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
M3 MPG for 1*2 performance, awesome.
gez 172
ClioSport Club Member
Defender 110
Lol, love that.
Does it cost as much as an M3 in any other way? No.
Why do people get their hair off so much about the mpg? I see no other hot hatches that do much better mpg?
my mate in a 197 had an M3 move over for him on track. So that's no excuse to say 'road stories'
on track, M3 got owned.
Does it cost as much as an M3 in any other way? No.
Why do people get their hair off so much about the mpg? I see no other hot hatches that do much better mpg?
my mate in a 197 had an M3 move over for him on track. So that's no excuse to say 'road stories'
on track, M3 got owned.
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
So you think for the perfomance it returns the economy is good?
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
£30 per week in fuel for me.
It saddens me I could fuel an m3 or an r32 for the same price
It saddens me I could fuel an m3 or an r32 for the same price
The Chubby Pirate
ClioSport Club Member
Golf R
Fair enough mate! I was genuinley asking not trolling. In honesty, the reason i go on about it is because the 172 (as you're aware) is even cheaper to run. Because it's compared to that that's why it probably seems dear (in my eyes).
gez 172
ClioSport Club Member
Defender 110
Yes, it does use more fuel than the 172 did. But all and only IMO, it does everything better. Nicer place to be, bigger car etc. so to be the same pace as a 1*2 and it being heavier, I'm happy. I loved my 172, so if this has to use a bit more fuel to get itself going, I don't mind.
i can get 400 miles out of a full tank. Using the petrol light. That's more than enough for me.
i go out in mates cars that clear a full tank in 90 miles (hard driving), I appreciate the Clio's mpg. Lol.
i can get 400 miles out of a full tank. Using the petrol light. That's more than enough for me.
i go out in mates cars that clear a full tank in 90 miles (hard driving), I appreciate the Clio's mpg. Lol.
Had a few 182's and a couple of 200's and the 182 is better on fuel by 4mpg for me.
The 182's 'feel' quicker to drive than the 197/200's but in reality they are not.
You do have to wind them up to get any power and that's why the mpg aren't the best.
I'll be moving the Focus ST on soon I think and fancy a Nimbus 197 F1 next. Rare I'd imagine.
The 182's 'feel' quicker to drive than the 197/200's but in reality they are not.
You do have to wind them up to get any power and that's why the mpg aren't the best.
I'll be moving the Focus ST on soon I think and fancy a Nimbus 197 F1 next. Rare I'd imagine.
I had a 197 about 3 yrs ago, was a lovely car apart from the documented irritations. Climate kept packing up and poor cold running. Replaced it with an Evo x that is more economical strangely just evrything else is expensive. Clio's are cheap to run good tyre sizes, modest servicing and going slower but wringing its last ounce of performance is grin inducing. Drive an Evo like that and plod take away your license. Sometimes less is more
What's this about MPG?? Dunno what you're all talking about
My 200.....
Is yours an early 200? (09 plate) I managed to get 40mpg in my first 200 but i struggle to get over 29 in my new one!
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
Got to be a photoshop lol! I really struggled to see 38mpg lol!
you only really feel the extra weight when you're driving slow imo, once they have some momentum going they feel as light as a mk2
they do feel a lot bigger/modern though. I love it
you only really feel the extra weight when you're driving slow imo, once they have some momentum going they feel as light as a mk2
they do feel a lot bigger/modern though. I love it
You need to loosen the engine a bit. It gets better. I bought it with 16k on it and I was struggling but I'm on 26k miles now and it's not so bad. Around town is s**t but motorways and decent runs its ok. That was the first time I got 40mpg and it was the drive back after ditching the secondary cat and a silencer hence why we celebrated in the car by taking a picture of it
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
I only ever fill my tank to the brim before running it down to the fuel light, have done since the first day I got it.
Average over a full tank; the best I've seen was just over 43mpg (that was hard work though), normally I see 34-37mpg without effort, and if I drive like a tool, it gets down to just under 30mpg.
The proven benefits of IAM LOL
Average over a full tank; the best I've seen was just over 43mpg (that was hard work though), normally I see 34-37mpg without effort, and if I drive like a tool, it gets down to just under 30mpg.
The proven benefits of IAM LOL
Knuckles
ClioSport Admin
R&skx, if that was aimed at me, my car is on 44+k
SJM'd197'dBTM'd 182
If you drive them right the mpg reflects that, slow you get more, hard you get less. If you were looking at mpg figures you wouldn't be looking at an one.
They are a nice place to be, comfortable, quiet and effortless. Have the centre section removed in mine, which is sporty but not droning on motorways or anything.
Depending on your budget will depend what you can get.
They are a nice place to be, comfortable, quiet and effortless. Have the centre section removed in mine, which is sporty but not droning on motorways or anything.
Depending on your budget will depend what you can get.
Clio 172 Cup Mondial
my mate gets 22mpg out of his m3 driving sensibly and about 13mpg on a blast
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
Mpg doesnt matter because 200's are that awesome to drive, i love 172s abd have gad a few good ones but 200 is a differebt ball game (as it should be with 8yrs of development!)
Darren S
ClioSport Club Member
^^^ - very good quote!
You know you're doing triple figures in the Clio - no excuses. The Evo can be a bit too sublime at times where you think "s**t - I'd better slow down"!
D.
