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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    I dont trust people who like french cars with gold wheels. This guy sounds about as popular as wasp at a picnic.
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Its alright, hes still not got over losing his girlfriend to a good looking muscular chap.:clown:
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Yes. And id want a decent colour too.
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    Is the guy that owns it very good looking?
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Think youll find that evo timed it at a slower time. So £1000 (yeah sure it really costs that much) supsension gets you a slower time than the same car with a conventional damper. No if they timed 100 laps maybe the trophys resevoir dampers would prevent fade and the times would be consistent...
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    They serve a purpose. The stickers add a visual reference to the car. The wheels are 'competition spec' alloys. The extra stiff subframe, enlarged baffled sump, cup racer based front suspension and unique engine are probably gimmicks though. Coilovers, schmoilovers.
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Gimmick - A unique or quirky special feature that makes something "stand out" from its contemporaries. However, the special feature is typically thought to be of little relevance or use. Thus, a gimmick is a special feature for the sake of having a special feature. A 'special' damper for...
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    No Clio 172 mk1 at the shoot then?
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Could say the same thing about the alloys. Front work harder so only fit racing magnesium wheels to the front. Twisted logic.
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    So you have remote resevoir dampers at the front to 'prevent damper fade' and then you go and get damper fade at the back anyway? I dont get it. Isnt that like fitting high performance magnesium alloys to the front and they heavy steelies to the back?
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    Clio Trophy Dampers

    Had a good look under a trophy recently. The rears units werent remote resevoir as far as i could see. Can someone confirm they are just standard dampers at the rear?
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    williams clio

    You sure it wasnt a clio williams?
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    Yet you bought a 1*2 and are saying the same things now about the 197 that Williams / 16v and 5 turbo owners have been saying about the 1*2 for years. More refined, heavier, less steering feel, less fun, but more power, which happens to be more peaky, this making a less driveable engine. I...
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    If it was the end of the story, everyone would live happily ever after.
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    And the 172 cup didnt even make the top 15.
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    Surely the trophy has this in the bag. Its easily the best handling car there.
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    Evo road test-197 vs trophy

    Wow, this sounds great i hope the trophy wins the shoot out.
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    Choices? Low Mileage Williams 3 or 106 GTI?

    One is an instantly recognisable icon of the 90's, known to a large percentage of the 'aware' popluation. The other isnt.
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    Choices? Low Mileage Williams 3 or 106 GTI?

    Isnt this like comparing a glass of Lambrini to a fine French Champagne? 'Yeah, but Lambrini gets you just as drunk innit' Totally missing the point.
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    Drove the 197 today!!!!!

    Does anyone actually think that Renault would turn up to a day like with cars that didnt have cherry picked engines and blueprinted suspension tolerances? The proof of the pudding is when you drive the 'road' car and its 15 bhp down and the camber is different left to right by 1 degree.
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    Choices? Low Mileage Williams 3 or 106 GTI?

    You call cars 'mint'. Get the 106. Please.
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    Choices? Low Mileage Williams 3 or 106 GTI?

    The whole point is not 'what they can do' but 'what the car is'. There are other faster cars in its class. But not other car for the money comes close to the reputation the williams has in terms of history and passion. Owning a williams is about 'ownership appeal', weekend in Ireland on B...
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    Clio Williams Dimma - Good or Bad?

    You wouldnt be able to use williams wheels on it, as the arches would be too big and the wheels look out of place. The original maxi kit rally cars could get away with larger 17 inch wheels to fill out the arches as they ran throttle bodies pushing our over 215 bhp. Also they had non standard...
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    Choices? Low Mileage Williams 3 or 106 GTI?

    If you even have to ask this question, you will never appreciate what a williams really is. Get the 106.
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    Going to see a williams this wk.

    Let it hit the limiter. valver will be 7k+ willy less than 7K (clocks will be innacurate). Williams engine and GB wont do 60 in second. Check the engine plate (under the airbox). Will say F7R. Little red tag Check the gb number JB5 not JC3, look down at the box from behind the airbox area...
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    Going to see a williams this wk.

    No one ever says it, but check the engine is an F7r not an f7p. Also check itsa got a williams head, and not a valver one.
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    Going to see a williams this wk.

    Heres my advice GET A WILLIAMS 1. The plaque is where its at in cool town.
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