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C-VXR, T8 Map 220BHP
You cant put in straight in that I do know as on cold morning its to viscous.
You need to get a pre-heater to heat it up a bit before It goes into the engine.
Do a search for bio diesel on the i.net.
Is more complicated than just pouring it in anyway
You need to get a pre-heater to heat it up a bit before It goes into the engine.
Do a search for bio diesel on the i.net.
Is more complicated than just pouring it in anyway
Black-Gold 182
you have to change the oil seals/gaskets as well as some can be broken down by veg oil.
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
are you sure your username shouldn't be "thick" this is old news
Black-Gold 182
agreed - the fella asked a question - no need for that.
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
haha.
Drat, beat me to it!
As Fred said you MUST have a bosch pump lol.
Oh and in the local rag, there was an article about the local plod cracking down on cars that smell like chip shops.
535d / t5 caravelle
a renault
You're a friendly person aren't you!
Ultra 197 ex 172 Cup
hey thick, I bet you wont ever put vegetable oil in your "enhgine"
maybe they should change this place to the cliodiesel.net or clioveggieoil.net then you and mark can join, and leave this place to the people with sports engines
maybe they should change this place to the cliodiesel.net or clioveggieoil.net then you and mark can join, and leave this place to the people with sports engines
The fine and penalties for running on veggy oil (or mix) is the same as running on cherry...both are non-taxed fuels.
You can get around the tax issue (and so legalities) of running on veggy, but you have to register as a business, and certain milaege/cost restricions are put in place.
You can get around the tax issue (and so legalities) of running on veggy, but you have to register as a business, and certain milaege/cost restricions are put in place.
CS Dungeon
Now that is my kind of useless knowledge ^^
Lol:lolup:
In a way you are paying the tax man, i'm sure tesco charge 17.5%
once you use cherry it stains all your fuel lines etc so can be detected even if you switch back to normal deisal. least with vege made fuel once you switch back to normal deisal nobodys non the wiser
CS Dungeon
It is now LEGAL to use veg oil in a diesel with NO TAX to pay.....
Provided you use less than 2500 litres a year.
I am using 10% Sunflower oil mixed with the diesel and Millers additive .... on a Daily basis.
It is both quieter than normal and better MPG.
I have used upto 90% sunflower with diesel and Millers in hot weather........ with even better MPG .......
However if the engine goes Cold (parked over a couple of hours) it can be a bugger to start ........ but its great for long journeys (Lancashire to London or Scotland) or if I'm not really stopping anywhere.
On 5% to 45% I find no starting differences to straight diesel ---- even in winter!
ALL you need to be Duty Free, is use under 2500ltrs veg oil per year ....... AND keep a log of amount used ( a simple notebook will do) .. there is NO registration or Licence required.
Provided you use less than 2500 litres a year.
I am using 10% Sunflower oil mixed with the diesel and Millers additive .... on a Daily basis.
It is both quieter than normal and better MPG.
I have used upto 90% sunflower with diesel and Millers in hot weather........ with even better MPG .......
However if the engine goes Cold (parked over a couple of hours) it can be a bugger to start ........ but its great for long journeys (Lancashire to London or Scotland) or if I'm not really stopping anywhere.
On 5% to 45% I find no starting differences to straight diesel ---- even in winter!
ALL you need to be Duty Free, is use under 2500ltrs veg oil per year ....... AND keep a log of amount used ( a simple notebook will do) .. there is NO registration or Licence required.
CS Dungeon
First point :-
you smell like a chippie if you recycle oil from a chippie --- its long and complicated (plenty of sites tell you how) and if only a very, very small error in filtering --- it will clog the injectors fast.
As a bynote :- if you use oil from the local chinese, you smell like a chinese chippy --- I tried it.
Police in some areas stop anyone with a "smell" as it must be illegal ---- in fact most recyclers use a recognised "recipe" and pay (used to pay) the fuel duty at 28 or 43p per litre.
IF YOU USE NEW OIL - THERE IS NO SMELL it is "cleaner" smelling than pure diesel.
Second Point:-
I use Oil from the supermarket shelf ---- no processing --- no filtering --- as it comes.
higher priced oil is no improvement ..............
Sunflower oil is the highest cetane and therefore best.
Rapeseed (marked "veg oil" or "canola") is great, better lubricant but slightly lower cetane.
Olive Oil, Palm oil, grapeseed oil etc tend to wax too easily (waxing blocks the filters, pipes and injectors) --- if in doubt, set you fridge to its coldest (not the freezer) and put a bottle of oil in it --- if it goes cloudy, it is useless in colder weather.
Point three:-
Blended with diesel at 5 to 20% oil added to diesel --- no mods are normally needed in most conditions (except Transits etc with lucas/cav pumps)
at 20 to 50% oil added to diesel -- no mods on longer journeys or where stopping does not allow the engine to fully cool (1/2 hr in winter upto 2hrs stopped in summer)
at 50 to 90% oil added to diesel --- no mods but make sure you put in fresh diesel hen parking up or it can be a sod to start in cooler weather.
Generally there are few problems with merc vans and mpv's if the thermostat is good (cold engines do not run oil very well -- 90c is much better than 70c)
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I run blended in all weathers, adjusting the ratio according to the weather (very, very roughly)
I always use Millers Diesel additive slightly stronger than the bottle says (4 to 6 measures in a tank) as it gets rid of the crap (see previous threads on millers from me and others) and stops "caramalising" when the engine is cold.
Low Sulphur diesel is better for the environment than older diesels but the sulphur acted as a lubricant --- you add the veg oil to replace the lubricant effect.
currently I am getting 47mpg from a 1997 108d that managed 32mpg when I bought it ---- No Mods ---- "blown through" with Millers diesel additive and straight diesel (one bottle in 2 tanks diesel) -- it ain't pleasant but it works ------- then the mix as outlined.
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If you follow the rules (1st in this thread) and use under 2500 ltrs in a year --- its fully legal NOW.
If you want to run on pure veg oil ONLY or to make your own bio diesel from used oil --------- I fully recommend Smartveg UK - advanced diesel to veg oil car conversion system for recipes and/or full veg oil conversions.
you smell like a chippie if you recycle oil from a chippie --- its long and complicated (plenty of sites tell you how) and if only a very, very small error in filtering --- it will clog the injectors fast.
As a bynote :- if you use oil from the local chinese, you smell like a chinese chippy --- I tried it.
Police in some areas stop anyone with a "smell" as it must be illegal ---- in fact most recyclers use a recognised "recipe" and pay (used to pay) the fuel duty at 28 or 43p per litre.
IF YOU USE NEW OIL - THERE IS NO SMELL it is "cleaner" smelling than pure diesel.
Second Point:-
I use Oil from the supermarket shelf ---- no processing --- no filtering --- as it comes.
higher priced oil is no improvement ..............
Sunflower oil is the highest cetane and therefore best.
Rapeseed (marked "veg oil" or "canola") is great, better lubricant but slightly lower cetane.
Olive Oil, Palm oil, grapeseed oil etc tend to wax too easily (waxing blocks the filters, pipes and injectors) --- if in doubt, set you fridge to its coldest (not the freezer) and put a bottle of oil in it --- if it goes cloudy, it is useless in colder weather.
Point three:-
Blended with diesel at 5 to 20% oil added to diesel --- no mods are normally needed in most conditions (except Transits etc with lucas/cav pumps)
at 20 to 50% oil added to diesel -- no mods on longer journeys or where stopping does not allow the engine to fully cool (1/2 hr in winter upto 2hrs stopped in summer)
at 50 to 90% oil added to diesel --- no mods but make sure you put in fresh diesel hen parking up or it can be a sod to start in cooler weather.
Generally there are few problems with merc vans and mpv's if the thermostat is good (cold engines do not run oil very well -- 90c is much better than 70c)
----------------
I run blended in all weathers, adjusting the ratio according to the weather (very, very roughly)
I always use Millers Diesel additive slightly stronger than the bottle says (4 to 6 measures in a tank) as it gets rid of the crap (see previous threads on millers from me and others) and stops "caramalising" when the engine is cold.
Low Sulphur diesel is better for the environment than older diesels but the sulphur acted as a lubricant --- you add the veg oil to replace the lubricant effect.
currently I am getting 47mpg from a 1997 108d that managed 32mpg when I bought it ---- No Mods ---- "blown through" with Millers diesel additive and straight diesel (one bottle in 2 tanks diesel) -- it ain't pleasant but it works ------- then the mix as outlined.
-------
If you follow the rules (1st in this thread) and use under 2500 ltrs in a year --- its fully legal NOW.
If you want to run on pure veg oil ONLY or to make your own bio diesel from used oil --------- I fully recommend Smartveg UK - advanced diesel to veg oil car conversion system for recipes and/or full veg oil conversions.
Martin_172
ClioSport Club Member
so you could run a dci on this s**t? i need a run about to get to work and back and work in a supermarket where i can order s**t loads of this stuff at discount!
Fletcher
ClioSport Club Member
Good post The Detailer.
