THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE to turning off airbag lights (with pictures) no resisters needed

[2Damnsly Andy]

So as some of you know I have been trying to get my airbag light amd service light off for some time. I have been told to use tape over the bulb (which involves taking the dash top off and dismantling the clocks), use resisters to disable them (a bugger to source them) and loads of other solutions and ideas.

So I had looked at removing the aibag ecu but was advised against it as this wouldn't solve the problem...more on that later.

Step 1, remove plastic center console, 3 hex screws to undo, one either side of the gearstick end and one underneath the ashtray. Disconnect all plugs:- Hazard switch, cigarette lighter and locking switch, push led for alarm through console. Pictured here with trim removed and all plugs disconnected.



Step 2, This will involve some cuts to the carpet and foam surrounding the gear stick and airbag ecu which is located infront of the gearbox tower, (picture below is reverse angle)

ECU is the shiny thing, plug you are looking for under the orange cover.


Step 3, Unclip large clip on the cover and slide to the side (picture shows clip open)


Step 4, Remove plug pull either side of orange clip and the pug will come out. (picture again reverse angle plug will be on the right of the airbag ecu).



Step 5, Remove grey end plate from orange cover (can be seen top of the orange cover in above picture). Then slide orange cover off the plug.



Step 6, Locate wire number 7 (see picture for numbering on the plug) and cut/remove the wire.



Step 7, reassemble everything, turn ignition key and note no warning lights.

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

Re: THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE to turning off airbag lights (with pictures) no resisters ne

Just to add to the above, the cuts made to the carpet and foam cannot be seen once the center console is replaced.


Mods any chance this could be stickied?

 

[shiftspark]

Re: THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE to turning off airbag lights (with pictures) no resisters ne

Does this turn off the output to the dash lights ? if so will it pass an mot ?

 

[syko6288]

Re: THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE to turning off airbag lights (with pictures) no resisters ne

Does that disable airbags all together or cut out the warning light ??

 

[The Boosh!]

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Looks a bit dodge to me.

 

[rollerdan]

Looks like it just disables the airbag completley

 

[Heez]

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Looks dodgy to me. Does the light come on when you turn the ignition then go out after second or so?

Can't you just wire the light up so it comes on when a different light comes on? Like the abs light?

 

[welshname]

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Will fail MOT as the lights have to be shown to sequence correctly.

That's if and when it actually comes in.

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

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Will fail MOT as the lights have to be shown to sequence correctly.

That's if and when it actually comes in.

I have no airbags in my car, the light wont come on as there is nothing there. This is not mean't for someone with an aftermarket wheel, this is mean't for someone with no airbags left in their car so the car would be MOT'd as a track car. I work for a dealership and I have already checked where I stand with this and it's all good.

 

[len_beach]

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So this won't extinguish the light if I've removed the airbag ecu?

 

[2Damnsly Andy]

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You can't clip a wire going to an ecu if the ecu is no longer there lol

 

[v16daf]

This still working ok? Gonna do it in my cup if it does?

 

[Riley!]

I don't know why people go to so much trouble. Just go to someone with a clip or with the RsTuner with the airbag add on and slip them some beer tokens . . .

 

[v16daf]

I don't know why people go to so much trouble. Just go to someone with a clip or with the RsTuner with the airbag add on and slip them some beer tokens . . .

Because if this works ok it's only 1 wire to cut. It's in fact less trouble

 

[M26]

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It would also be rather silly to do since there is no way to test if the airbags are now working or not without crashing?

 

[v16daf]

It would also be rather silly to do since there is no way to test if the airbags are now working or not without crashing?

Airbags have been removed from my car, wouldn't consider it otherwise

 

[Zeke]

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Anyone who has an idea how to fake the airbaglight in purpose to pass the MOT? In Sweden they check the light sequens.

 

[Riley!]

Yes turn off with RS tuner or Renault clip the light sequence still works

 

[Fantom]

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I will give this a try! Thanks for the guide. Tried using resistors on my phase 1 and just could not get the lights off even though I've successfully done it twice on ph2s. I have no airbags left so there can be no problem

 

[v16daf]

My cup has different wires to what you have. So I'm going to have to use clip just incase

 

[Fred@BTM]

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my airbag light is wired to the oil pressure light lol, so when you turn the car on it lights up but then goes out (no airbags anywhere)

 

[nickfantastic]

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You could simulate airbag light coming on. Just piggy back the dash bulb wiring to your oil pressure light. Aslong as youve got good oil pressure the light will come on with ignition and go off with engine running.

 

[nickfantastic]

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Ha got beat to that post by the above. Bugger!!!!

 

[v16daf]

Good idea!

 

[Lal B3N]

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How do you go about disabling the fault permanently with the Renault Clip tool?

 

[Fred@BTM]

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not 100% sure you can, maybe tell it its an utter basic 1.2 with naff all?

 

[Zeke]

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Yes turn off with RS tuner or Renault clip the light sequence still works

Thanks for reply, what Clip are we talking about? If you could provide a link it would be nice.

 

[scotty2hotty81]

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Thanks for reply, what Clip are we talking about? If you could provide a link it would be nice.

paper clip.

 

[MikeClio172SPT]

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paper clip.

Funny

 

[Dan@SJM]

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not 100% sure you can, maybe tell it its an utter basic 1.2 with naff all?

You can. You need to go into the airbag ecu and tell it what equipment you have removed. I've done a few recently including mine and Lesley's.

 

[pastieman]

You can. You need to go into the airbag ecu and tell it what equipment you have removed. I've done a few recently including mine and Lesley's.

This is the best way to do it !!!

 

[len_beach]

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You can. You need to go into the airbag ecu and tell it what equipment you have removed. I've done a few recently including mine and Lesley's.

Can you do this for side impact sensors etc Dan?

Could this also be done if removing ABS?

 

[Cup_Phil]

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^^ No

I had my airbag ecu reprogrammed by clip/rstuner to say there was no airbags in the car - worked a treat. But as soon as you remove the side impact sensors the light comes back on. So it's no good if you want to strip the car fully

 

[len_beach]

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^^ No

I had my airbag ecu reprogrammed by clip/rstuner to say there was no airbags in the car - worked a treat. But as soon as you remove the side impact sensors the light comes back on. So it's no good if you want to strip the car fully

That's where I'm at Phil. Already used RSTuner which worked a treat.

I've parred down the rear loom, trimmed down the door looms to just central locking motors. I've had to splice the airbag on/off lock from the passenger door into the main loom to keep the light off but now I'm thinking **** it and hook the dash lights to the oil pressure light.

What did you do in the end?

 

[Cup_Phil]

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Took the front of the dials - bit of black tape over the light - bobs your uncle
Same with the engine management lights too as my omex lit the dash up like a christmas tree lol

Not had a problem with the MOT to be honest - but the car is quite clearly a track car so I think they're a bit lenient with me

 

[vmaxnick]

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The oil light trick is no good because it doesn't fool the sequence. Mot tester worth his salt will wait for the light to run through it's function test and turn out before starting the engine. If you want to fool the light system, there are two existing tricks: either use a glow plug relay from most old diesels to give the + for the lights you can take the feed from the glow plug pre heat light circuit or from the glow plug circuit doesn't really matter or you can use an interior light switch off delay relay. This would be a total override bodge though and not to be recommended if you still hope the bags might work. If the OP is right in that pin seven is the feed to the airbag light then that would be where I would put the + feed from the glow plug relay. Word of strongest possible caution though! REMOVE BATTERY FOR AT LEAST 30 MINS before attempting then make sure the car is abandoned when you reconnect just in case. If you've removed all the airbags and the ECU this shouldn't be an issue. (Just in case you think this post is at odds with my other post; I don't want to bodge my Sons car, I want to repair it) :rasp:

 

[Austin-182]

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Or you could just use resistors and nkt destroy the wires in your car? Seems like such pointless pikey way of doing things doing it this way.

 

[Dan@SJM]

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That's where I'm at Phil. Already used RSTuner which worked a treat.

I've parred down the rear loom, trimmed down the door looms to just central locking motors. I've had to splice the airbag on/off lock from the passenger door into the main loom to keep the light off but now I'm thinking **** it and hook the dash lights to the oil pressure light.

What did you do in the end?

I expect you could get rid of the impact sensors. All you need to do is tell your ecu you don't have them anymore.

I suspect you could program the UCH to tell it there is no ABS, but I've not gone that far into programming mine yet...

 

[Space Cadet]

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To cut a long story short I've just replaced my whole dashboard loom and now need to turn the Airbag & SERV lights off but cant remember how I did it with the old loom. I don’t have any airbags or the airbag ECU. I'm sure there was a way fool the system by cutting a wire or grounding a wire but like I say I cant remember?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

 

[len_beach]

Re: THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE to turning off airbag lights (with pictures) no resisters ne

To cut a long story short I've just replaced my whole dashboard loom and now need to turn the Airbag & SERV lights off but cant remember how I did it with the old loom. I don’t have any airbags or the airbag ECU. I'm sure there was a way fool the system by cutting a wire or grounding a wire but like I say I cant remember?? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!

I'd love to know this!